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Chris1963

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Yes, tends to be okay on days when journeys are disrupted due to engineering and trains are re-routed or have bus replacement. The staff are more concerned with getting the passengers on to the right buses, etc., rather than checking tickets and ticket barriers are often left open on such occasions. Engineering work usually takes place at weekends/Bank Holidays so the rail staff are faced with occasional travelers who need more guidance than the commuting public.
There was one occasion when a Revenue Protection team actually boarded a replacement bus service I was on in order to check that everyone had a ticket! (and yes, I did have one) This would never happen on the Continent, where replacement buses are always free of charge.
 

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I think you'll find if you check the ATOC Conditions of Carriage if you remain on the one train it has to call at the 'splitting' station.
I don't know why you think I should check Conditions which were superseded in Oct 2016, i.e. getting on for 5 years ago.

The relevant section of the current National Rail Conditions of Travel (latest edition effective 4 Dec 2019) tells me everything I need to know about using a combination of tickets.
 

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Below is the latest i found but of course things may have changed

14. Using a combination of Tickets
14.1 Unless shown below, you may use a combination of two or more Tickets to make a journey provided that the train services you use call at the station(s) where you change from one Ticket to another.
 

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Below is the latest i found but of course things may have changed

14. Using a combination of Tickets
14.1 Unless shown below, you may use a combination of two or more Tickets to make a journey provided that the train services you use call at the station(s) where you change from one Ticket to another.
These are the conditions published in the document dated 4 December 2019, there are exceptions if you Season/Zonal/Rover tickets.
 

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I have frequently had tickets from "Boundary zone 6". I think these are mainly sold at the ticket office, where you show your oyster card. I know I cannot do this on, for example, the Gatwick Express, while it is acceptable on any Victoria to Gatwick service stopping at Clapham Junction and/or East Croydon

I have almost certainly had such a ticket on a Thames Valley line train even if the first stop out of Paddington is Slough, but I am less certain about routes with the first stop at Reading. Is there a limitation to the "boundary zone 6" tickets.
 

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I have frequently had tickets from "Boundary zone 6"....

...Is there a limitation to the "boundary zone 6" tickets.
Tend only to be available to outboundary destinations in the London and South Eastern area and obviously only in conjunction with a ticket valid within the London zonal area.

List of available destinations here...

 

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I have frequently had tickets from "Boundary zone 6". I think these are mainly sold at the ticket office, where you show your oyster card. I know I cannot do this on, for example, the Gatwick Express, while it is acceptable on any Victoria to Gatwick service stopping at Clapham Junction and/or East Croydon

I have almost certainly had such a ticket on a Thames Valley line train even if the first stop out of Paddington is Slough, but I am less certain about routes with the first stop at Reading. Is there a limitation to the "boundary zone 6" tickets.
Here's the full text from National Rail:

14. USING A COMBINATION OF TICKETS
14.1. Unless shown below, you may use a combination of two or more Tickets to make a journey provided that the train services you use call at the station(s) where you change from one Ticket to another.
14.2. If you are using a Season Ticket, daily Zonal Ticket, or another area based Ticket such as a concessionary pass, ranger or rover in conjunction with another Ticket and the last station at which one Ticket is valid and the first station that the other Ticket is valid are the same, then the train does not need to call at that station for your combination to be valid.
14.3. Some Tickets specifically exclude their use in conjunction with other Tickets. This will be made clear in the terms and conditions when buying such Tickets, and you cannot use such a Ticket in conjunction with another except as set out in 14.1 above.
14.4. In all cases you must comply with the specific terms and conditions of each of the Tickets you are using (for example, keeping to the valid route(s) and train services for which each Ticket is valid). It is your responsibility to check that you comply with the Conditions listed above.
 

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Here's the full text from National Rail:

14. USING A COMBINATION OF TICKETS

14.3. Some Tickets specifically exclude their use in conjunction with other Tickets. This will be made clear in the terms and conditions when buying such Tickets, and you cannot use such a Ticket in conjunction with another except as set out in 14.1 above.
14.4. In all cases you must comply with the specific terms and conditions of each of the Tickets you are using (for example, keeping to the valid route(s) and train services for which each Ticket is valid). It is your responsibility to check that you comply with the Conditions listed above.
Missing a booked train because of starting a journey elsewhere by rail on a late running service is another one that has cropped up in the past.

It has happened to me on a good few occasions and there is no problem with boarding the next available service to your final destination but be aware a suspicious train manager can check such a story in a matter of seconds in case a quick beer was the real reason.
 

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I took this photograph on Friday afternoon, of the old Southampton Terminus railway station...

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The station was the original Southampton station, build to serve the city centre in 1840, then later became the terminus for boat-trains running down from London. It closed in 1966 when the Waterloo to Bournemouth line received third-rail electrification - the line down to Southampton docks (visible here crossing Canute Road) did not receive the same upgrade, leading to the closure of both Terminus and Northam stations.

Southampton City Council have since put a protection order on the spur line, which runs from behind SFC's St.Mary's Stadium, and there has even been talk of rebuilding a Northam station to serve the football ground.

The building on the left of the photo is South Western House, which was the hotel used to house the first-class passengers the night before the Titanic set sail in 1912. From 1961 to 1991 it was the headquarters for BBC South, and I can remember going in a couple of times back in the eighties to scrounge BBC Radio Solent car-stickers, before the building of the bland modern BBC building up near the modern Southampton Central railway station. Since then, South Western House has been converted into flats and the rest of the station buildings into a casino and car-parking.

Across the road is the former White Star offices, complete with memorial plaque, where the relatives of the Southampton-based crew first came to hear news of the Titanic disaster.

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I took this photograph on Friday afternoon, of the old Southampton Terminus railway station...

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The station was the original Southampton station, build to serve the city centre in 1840, then later became the terminus for boat-trains running down from London. It closed in 1966 when the Waterloo to Bournemouth line received third-rail electrification - the line down to Southampton docks (visible here crossing Canute Road) did not receive the same upgrade, leading to the closure of both Terminus and Northam stations.

Southampton City Council have since put a protection order on the spur line, which runs from behind SFC's St.Mary's Stadium, and there has even been talk of rebuilding a Northam station to serve the football ground.

The building on the left of the photo is South Western House, which was the hotel used to house the first-class passengers the night before the Titanic set sail in 1912. From 1961 to 1991 it was the headquarters for BBC South, and I can remember going in a couple of times back in the eighties to scrounge BBC Radio Solent car-stickers, before the building of the bland modern BBC building up near the modern Southampton Central railway station. Since then, South Western House has been converted into flats and the rest of the station buildings into a casino and car-parking.

Across the road is the former White Star offices, complete with memorial plaque, where the relatives of the Southampton-based crew first came to hear news of the Titanic disaster.

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Daughter who used to live in Ocean Village used to get so annoyed by this crossing when she was trying to get to work.
 

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Daughter who used to live in Ocean Village used to get so annoyed by this crossing when she was trying to get to work.
Have you read my write-up on The Grapes in the Proper Pubs thread?

That crossing was part of the railway line that ran the length of Town Quay and delayed a group of crewmen who were drinking in The Grapes pub before the Titanic sailed. Two managed to get across in front of a moving train and got back on-board before the ship set sail. But four others, including three brothers from the Slade family, got held up at the line and got back to the Titanic's quayside after the gangplank had already been raised, and were were not allowed to board.

The docks line along Town Quay only closed in 1970, and the rails weren't dug up until as recently as 1979.
 
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Have you read my write-up on The Grapes in the Proper Pubs thread?

That crossing was part of the railway line that ran the length of Town Quay and delayed a group of crewmen who were drinking in the pub before the Titanic sailed. Two managed to get across in front of a moving train and got back on-board before the ship set sail. But four others, including three brothers from the Slade family, got held up at the line and got back to the Titanic's quayside after the gangplank had already been raised, and were were not allowed to board.

The docks line along Town Quay only closed in 1970, and the rails weren't dug up until as recently as 1979.
Indeed I have, also enjoyed the review of the other pub adjacent to the ferry terminal.
 

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I've found this photograph of Northam railway station in Southampton looking north, taken in the station's final week of use before closure at the start of September 1966. The ironwork of Northam Road bridge can be seen on the left - there is now a modern walkway from here down into the carpark of St.Mary's Stadium...

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Here is a view of the former location of Northam railway station looking south, taken from Northam Road bridge in 2008. The gas holder on the extreme left of the photo still dominates the area and can be seen from trains approaching the eastern end of the Southampton Tunnel that leads into Southampton Central station.

The curve of parked vehicles in front of the stadium marks the former Bull's Run tramline that ran down to Belvidere Wharf, the site of industrial works on the western bank of the River Itchen.

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