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Richard Rundle

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Looks like the Exeter St Davids to Okehampton service is to be made a more permament service with a regular two-hourly service all week rather than just a few journeys on sumemr Saturdays. The intermediate station at Sampford Courtenay is currently not planned to be opened.
 

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Hoping to travel on one of the interim 180s soon as well.
Good luck that. They don't have a good record, and haven't had since the day they were introduced to the network. I saw one at Leicester just before lockdown, probably on driver training.
 

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Good luck that. They don't have a good record, and haven't had since the day they were introduced to the network. I saw one at Leicester just before lockdown, probably on driver training.
Yeah, obviously seen them at Etches Park.

As regards the 170s they seem to be mainly on the Robin Hood, used one to get to Sherwood Colliery for last game before this lockdown.
 

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Priority for the 170s is supposed to be Robin Hood and Derby - Crewe. The continuing delays in testing and training with the 196s in the West Midlands suggests that releasing the rest of the 170s will be a prolonged process.
 

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In terms of endangered stations- finally (about 20 years too darn late) Plymouth (North Rd) railway station is getting a massive makeover. The tower block has been sold to University of Plymouth for additional medical facilities, the 1960s car park is going but more importantly, the waiting area which is a mid 1980s nightmare (think hexagonal light fittings, sails which haven't been cleaned in 25+ years) is going to be transformed and extended into the Royal Mail existing area.

Finally and in line with 1940s Abercrombie plan for rebuilding Plymouth and 75 years a bit late, you will be able to directly walk from the station into Armada Way and right into Plymouth City Centre

News today of the official start on the work at Plymouth station...

Plymouth's £80million railway station upgrade officially begins
 

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Good luck that. They don't have a good record, and haven't had since the day they were introduced to the network. I saw one at Leicester just before lockdown, probably on driver training.
Just been on one of the many Youtube channels devoted to railways. It included a clip of a 180 on Revenue earning service last Friday.
 

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Just been on one of the many Youtube channels devoted to railways. It included a clip of a 180 on Revenue earning service last Friday.
05:19 Derby - LSP is booked as a 180 and according to Rail UK the 10:00 Sheffield - LSP last Saturday also saw one working.
 

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Yesterday's Evening Standard newspaper had a story about Scottish fans planning to travel to London for the England v Scotland game at Wembley this Friday. It claimed that many trains between London and Scotland that day are 'sold out' which is of course incorrect, because in truth, standing passengers are allowed and no-one can be denied the chance to board a train as long as they have purchased a walk-up ticket. Misleading news reports like this do a lot of harm to the railways because they perpetuate the myth of compulsory reservation and so encourage people to travel by car instead.
 

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It's ridiculous, if you look at any rail website they give you prices running in to hundreds of pounds for journeys of under 100 miles all over the country and god knows how many people are put off travelling on the strength of such rubbish. I suppose with the government currently paying to run the trains most of the TOC's are not losing out but when they cut them loose it will be a shambles unless it is changed.

On the topic of the Jocks hitting London on Friday, there is one report of 20,000 travelling without match tickets and for some strange reason many are heading to Hyde Park so it will be fun for anyone using TfL.
 

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It's ridiculous, if you look at any rail website they give you prices running in to hundreds of pounds for journeys of under 100 miles all over the country and god knows how many people are put off travelling on the strength of such rubbish. I suppose with the government currently paying to run the trains most of the TOC's are not losing out but when they cut them loose it will be a shambles unless it is changed.

On the topic of the Jocks hitting London on Friday, there is one report of 20,000 travelling without match tickets and for some strange reason many are heading to Hyde Park so it will be fun for anyone using TfL.
Funny I was looking earlier for Plymouth to Nailsea and Backwell, as its ideal for an away day for Saltash.

£52 each way.
 

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Funny I was looking earlier for Plymouth to Nailsea and Backwell, as its ideal for an away day for Saltash.

£52 each way.
I don't know where you got that price, if you travel off peak (and anytime weekend) and dont have a railcard it is £36 return by splitting tickets at Taunton. That goes up to £48 peak splitting at Exeter if you leave Plymouth early (before 9 I think) on a weekeday.
I know its ridiculous you have to split but its the only way to do it if you cant find cheap Advance fares.

Before I get told off, Bristol is a busy station.
 

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I don't know where you got that price, if you travel off peak (and anytime weekend) and dont have a railcard it is £36 return by splitting tickets at Taunton. That goes up to £48 peak splitting at Exeter if you leave Plymouth early (before 9 I think) on a weekeday.
I know its ridiculous you have to split but its the only way to do it if you cant find cheap Advance fares.

Before I get told off, Bristol is a busy station.
Ticket splitting is so tedious and you need to ensure the train you're on actually stops at the splitting station(s).
 

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Ticket splitting is so tedious and you need to ensure the train you're on actually stops at the splitting station(s).
It can be tedious but doing abit of homework can save you an amazing amount of money. I'll split to save a couple of quid because it is better in my pocket than some TOC who couldn't give a damn about my needs when out on the rails.
 

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Ticket splitting is so tedious and you need to ensure the train you're on actually stops at the splitting station(s).
A journey I made regularly pre-covid costs £16 by splitting, with no need for the train to call at the split point. The through fare is £33.
One simple transaction at the booking office to buy the two tickets.

Once the new season starts I will be doing the same again, but if people don't want to split because it is too tedious, then fair enough - I prefer to put the money saved towards a good pre-match meal with a couple of drinks.

It does make me laugh though to see some of the supposed fares quoted - often well above the actual fare, even with no splitting involved. A day trip Plymouth to Nailsea is £53,20 RETURN, for example.
 

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I prefer to put the money saved towards a good pre-match meal with a couple of drinks.
Exactly. Luton to Bedford cheap day return (with network card discount) then Bedford to stations north return is a lot cheaper than Luton to stations north direct Saver ticket. Enough for meal, drinks or price of match ticket whichever way you look at it.
 

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Exactly. Luton to Bedford cheap day return (with network card discount) then Bedford to stations north return is a lot cheaper than Luton to stations north direct Saver ticket. Enough for meal, drinks or price of match ticket whichever way you look at it.
Surely that's only valid if your train North out of Luton stops at Bedford? Do all of them do so?
 

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Surely that only works if your train North out of Luton stops at Bedford? Do all of them do so?
Yes, Luton is only served by half-hourly Corby trains which all stop at Bedford. Actually have to change at Kettering and/or Leicester when going further north but Bedford is now first stop after Luton was removed from direct services out of London to the north.
 

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A journey I made regularly pre-covid costs £16 by splitting, with no need for the train to call at the split point. The through fare is £33.
One simple transaction at the booking office to buy the two tickets.

Once the new season starts I will be doing the same again, but if people don't want to split because it is too tedious, then fair enough - I prefer to put the money saved towards a good pre-match meal with a couple of drinks.

It does make me laugh though to see some of the supposed fares quoted - often well above the actual fare, even with no splitting involved. A day trip Plymouth to Nailsea is £53,20 RETURN, for example.
I think you'll find if you check the ATOC Conditions of Carriage if you remain on the one train it has to call at the 'splitting' station.
 

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I think you'll find if you check the ATOC Conditions of Carriage if you remain on the one train it has to call at the 'splitting' station.
This subject came up on the old forum and a member argued it but the question has been put on the Rail UK forum and the ATOC Conditions of Carriage rules have been quoted.. Must say i have ignored these rulings a good few times in the last few months because i know for a fact that checks will not be done but after seeing Revenue Protection boarding trains in Sheffield on more than one occasion i am now not risking it.
 

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This subject came up on the old forum and a member argued it but the question has been put on the Rail UK forum and the ATOC Conditions of Carriage rules have been quoted.. Must say i have ignored these rulings a good few times in the last few months because i know for a fact that checks will not be done but after seeing Revenue Protection boarding trains in Sheffield on more than one occasion i am now not risking it.
Yes, tends to be okay on days when journeys are disrupted due to engineering and trains are re-routed or have bus replacement. The staff are more concerned with getting the passengers on to the right buses, etc., rather than checking tickets and ticket barriers are often left open on such occasions. Engineering work usually takes place at weekends/Bank Holidays so the rail staff are faced with occasional travelers who need more guidance than the commuting public.
 

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