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paulh66
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Jul 9, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Essex Senior League 2019/20 Can't Post or Reply Privately

Might as well create this thread to shoehorn in this morning's news from the ESL's Twitter feed:

"Breaking News
@IlfordFC have been granted 7 days to source a venue that meets F grading by the League otherwise will not be playing in the NLS next season."

The club isn't happy about the tweet! No news either about the possible implications for Barkingside, who share Ilford's Cricklefield stadium.

Before this blew up, the constitution of the league for the coming season had been agreed as follows:

1 Clapton
2 Cockfosters
3 Enfield
4 Hadley
5 Hashtag United
6 Hoddesdon Town
7 Ilford
8 Redbridge
9 Saffron Walden Town
10 Sawbridgeworth Town
11 Southend Manor
12 Sporting Bengal United
13 St Margaretsbury
14 Stansted
15 Takeley
16 Tower Hamlets
17 Walthamstow
18 West Essex
19 Woodford Town 2017


windydcfc
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Jul 10, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Re: [paulh66] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

The club secretary at Ilford mentions that the club will be at Cricklefield & no other clubs will be. Apart from Barkingside who else plays out of there & what happens to those clubs now?


Herb Alpert
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Jul 10, 2019, 7:48 AM

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Re: [windydcfc] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

A tweet from the "ILFORDFCSEC" twitter account yesterday states that both Ilford & Barkingside will play at Cricklefields this coming season.


leohoenig
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Jul 10, 2019, 8:08 AM

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Re: [Herb Alpert] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

The various messages seem to skirt around the problems without an explanation

Does anyone know the actual problem?



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Herb Alpert
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Jul 10, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Re: [leohoenig] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

I have not seen any reason in the public domain for the ESL to suggest that Ilford had 7 days to find a compliant ground. Another quote from "ILFORDFCSEC" twitter with regard to the issue "If I was allowed to tell you, you wouldn’t believe it."


Deaf Leopard
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Jul 11, 2019, 7:46 AM

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Re: [Herb Alpert] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

The issue is between the football club and the Sports Club who own the site. There have been disputes between both parties for years, even though the football club has seen regimes come and go. Barkingside are not affected.


Paul Cockerton
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Jul 16, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Might as well create this thread to shoehorn in this morning's news from the ESL's Twitter feed:

"Breaking News
@IlfordFC have been granted 7 days to source a venue that meets F grading by the League otherwise will not be playing in the NLS next season."

The club isn't happy about the tweet! No news either about the possible implications for Barkingside, who share Ilford's Cricklefield stadium.

Before this blew up, the constitution of the league for the coming season had been agreed as follows:

1 Clapton
2 Cockfosters
3 Enfield
4 Hadley
5 Hashtag United
6 Hoddesdon Town
7 Ilford
8 Redbridge
9 Saffron Walden Town
10 Sawbridgeworth Town
11 Southend Manor
12 Sporting Bengal United
13 St Margaretsbury
14 Stansted
15 Takeley
16 Tower Hamlets
17 Walthamstow
18 West Essex
19 Woodford Town 2017


Seven days on - any word of a resolution?



Hull City / Clapton fan.


southend statto
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Jul 16, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Re: [Paul Cockerton] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

we may find out at 6pm tomorrow when the fixtures are released


paulh66
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Jul 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Re: [Paul Cockerton] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

It's pretty poor that the league was happily tweeting publicly about the threat to Ilford's membership but still hasn't commented since the deadline lapsed a few days ago.

Also poor that, having announced the fixtures would be released at 6pm today, the league has again gone quiet. Apparently, according to East London Radio's Grassroots Football Show, the fixtures have been delayed until tomorrow "due to unforeseen circumstances"


Deaf Leopard
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Jul 17, 2019, 11:49 PM

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Re: [paulh66] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

It is due to the issues uploading fixtures that other leagues have faced.


Forest Gump
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Jul 18, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Re: [Deaf Leopard] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

Welcome to the ESL on Twitter! Don't forget it was on Twitter that they told Barkingside they wouldn't be relegated, and the year before couldn't make their mind up if it was 2, 3 or 4 that would go down.


New Forest
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Jul 18, 2019, 9:55 AM

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If the fixtures came out later today that would still be much earlier than last season! Perhaps the league should be re-titled 'The Agatha Christie League'.

Will Ilford get a new ground. Will Barkingside, who hare Ilford's ground, be back in to make the numbers up. And what happened to Edgware Town!


Forest Gump
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Jul 18, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Re: [New Forest] Essex Senior League 2019/20 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

ESL fixtures are now out. I know we've got to play everyone twice at some point, but their scheduling seems as wacky as ever. Walthamstow play five of our first seven at home, and there's two times where we'll play four home games in a row. Six of our final eight games are away.

Ilford are included in the fixtures.


ladderman
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Jul 18, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Isn't much of that down to the large number of ground shares (plus Stansted being away throughout August)?

At least there isn't 2 ESL teams sharing with Harlow Town this year. I still can't understand why that was allowed to happen


paulh66
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Jul 18, 2019, 1:42 PM

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At least there isn't 2 ESL teams sharing with Harlow Town this year. I still can't understand why that was allowed to happen


If fulltime is to be believed (..if) then West Essex and Leyton Athletic are both now sharing at Barking.


agamemnon3
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Jul 18, 2019, 4:05 PM

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'Wacky' is putting it mildly.

Cockfosters have five consecutive home games in November/December, yet only one home fixture between January and late April.


Karen Browne
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Jul 18, 2019, 4:28 PM

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'Wacky' is putting it mildly.

Cockfosters have five consecutive home games in November/December, yet only one home fixture between January and late April.


The joys of being a Fixture Secretary



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Karen Browne
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Jul 18, 2019, 6:05 PM

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'Wacky' is putting it mildly.

Cockfosters have five consecutive home games in November/December, yet only one home fixture between January and late April.



Full Time now showing Cockfosters with many fixture changes



Karen Browne
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agamemnon3
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Jul 18, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Wow ! First game of the season, (at home v Takeley), has suddenly become an away game.

It is clear that the pace of life in the high-powered Essex Senior League is far more than sleepy old Cockfosters are used to.

Can they keep up ? We shall see...


kirby knitters
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Jul 18, 2019, 7:15 PM

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And now I fully understand the true meaning of a 'provisional' fixture list. Tongue


agamemnon3
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Jul 19, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I have the latest update from the 'Va-Va-Voom' Essex Senior League, and it would appear that seven Cockfosters' fixtures have been reversed, including that of the opening day.

And, er..., one fixture has simply disappeared altogether, thus leaving poor old Cockfosters with only a 35-game season, which seems a tad unfair.

I have no doubt that this will be rectified in the morning, as soon as the ESL boffins log on to their consoles.

I shall leave it to the ever-vigilant followers of Hoddesdon Town FC to point out which game it is that has gone adrift.


ladderman
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Jul 22, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Someone needs to tell their web person that Enfield have moved.


agamemnon3
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Jul 27, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Disturbing news today from an ESL official (yes, another one) that the dispute between Ilford FC and Cricklefield Stadium has not been resolved and that Ilford FC are now on the point of folding.

I find this hard to believe, as only a few days ago a (different) ESL official assured me that the problem was 'purely administrative'.

The next seventy-two hours should prove illuminating.


ladderman
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Jul 29, 2019, 3:25 PM

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From the ESL Twitter

The reason there has been no update is because we have been assured by the club that they can play at Cricklefields Stadium - therefore no requirement to take action.

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agamemnon3
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Jul 29, 2019, 3:39 PM

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Let's hope they are right.

But there would appear to be at least one person at ESL HQ who is not quite so sure.

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