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scottywalds
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Jack Grealish has been attacked by some nutter on the pitch during the Second City derby today...


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Jack Grealish has been attacked by some nutter on the pitch during the Second City derby today...


Well, it’s assault, so hopefully the idiot will spend some time behind bars.


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Jack Grealish has been attacked by some nutter on the pitch during the Second City derby today...


Well, it’s assault, so hopefully the idiot will spend some time behind bars.


He's in custody, and Villa are 1-0 up through Grealish...


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Must be a weekend for Nutters on the pitch

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Jack Grealish has been attacked by some nutter on the pitch during the Second City derby today...


Well, it’s assault, so hopefully the idiot will spend some time behind bars.


He's in custody, and Villa are 1-0 up through Grealish...


Just seen it.

Hope that nutter isnt allowed within a 500 meter range of a football pitch ever again.



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A steward was taken away for kicking Grealish. As he was celebrating with the Villa fans.



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It has to be said that Grealish is a complete bell-end but that does not excuse the actions of anyone involved in these tawdry scenes.


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Have a look on twitter. A blue nose fan called @alfieperkins tweeted this sickening post:
HE MIGHT’VE SCORED BUT IT’LL NEVER BRING HIS DEAD BROTHER BACK AND THAT GIVES ME MORE SATISFACTION THAN ANYTHING EVER COULD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
With a picture of Grealish’s brothers grave. Their are some inhuman c**** in the world, but that’s the sickest thing I’ve seen on twitter



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On one of the numerous facebook threads on the issue, someone is saying it was the fault of security, not the club !!! With Birmingham being at home i would have thought they were responsible for the security.


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I think Grealish might find himself paying a hefty fine as well, for jumping into the supporters after he scored. As for the idiot (putting that very mildly) that ran onto the pitch and struck Grealish, than 12 months in prison for assault should give him plenty of time to think about his behaviour.

If reports are true about a steward kicking Grealish then the steward should get a similar punishment to the pitch invader. Stewards are there to keep people safe and maintain order, not to dish out punishment.



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More depressing than the thug who assaulted Grealish was the sight of many in the home end applauding this behaviour. It's one thing to just have an isolated nutter, quite another to have a climate in which these people feel emboldened to do this kind of thing. Not sure what can be done but these incidents are becoming a trickle now.


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If a home club can't protect visiting players and officials from physical attack by home team supporters then the obvious solution is to require them to play their games behind closed doors.

If that was known to be a likely sanction then I doubt whether there would be much applause for any interloper.

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What about a home club protecting home players from visiting fans? Seem to remember Mark Bosnich being attacked by a pitch invading Blues fan at Villa Park a number of years ago.


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If the home club have taken all reasonable steps to prevent pitch incursions by spectators, then I suppose the league authorities would need to decide whether to ban away supporters from the ground on the next occasion that the teams met at that venue.

It boils down to a safety issue. Sooner or later a pitch invader is going to try to do something more serious than kick/punch/shove.

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I'm talking prevention rather than punishment. We can't have the fences back so, assuming the numbers of stewards and police are in line with whatever guidelines are in place, then beyond perhaps looking again at those guidelines there no obvious solution. For all seater stadia I suppose you could close off the front half dozen or so rows with that back netting-type stuff they use, which would at least give the stewards and police enough time to apprehend a potential invader before they reach the pitch.


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The sentence for assault is maximum 6 months in prison, although this is usually not given and rather community service or a fine is the punishment. If the punishment was say 2 to 5 years in prison, starting at the lower end for first offence then maybe it might be more of a deterrent.

The nutter at St Andrews has pleaded guilty so lets have him named with a photo so any future employer knows not to hire him.



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These type of incidents must stop immediately before someone is seriously injured. If spectators are able to make physical contact with players eventually some idiot will do so with a knife, as we have seen in other sports. The minimum punishment when any club that has failed to prevent a spectator making contact with a player must be a game played behind closed doors. It will hurt the club and it might just encourage other spectators to police it themselves.

However the players have a responsibility too. They can't complain about spectators coming on to the pitch while they persist in going into the crowd to celebrate. The Laws of the game mandate a yellow card for it but whenever that happens referees are criticised for being killjoys. Not acceptable. Players on the pitch, spectators in the stands. No crossover.


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If a lifetime ban and a criminal record doesn't deter these individuals then playing a match behind closed doors won't bother them in the slightest. I agree it could be used as a punishment but I doubt it'll be much of a deterrent, even if it did produce a degree of peer pressure. Especially if, in this day and age of YouTube, Twitter etc, the moron responsible fancies themself as a bit of a 'celebrity'.


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Without wishing to minimalise the events of yesterday I can't help but think back to a game I attended at Birmingham in 86 against Leeds when there was a 35 minute delay due to fans fighting on the pitch. The game has come a hell of a long way since those dark days so talk of empty rows of seating etc is well way off the mark.


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Swift justice handed out to guy who was involved in yesterday's carry on. 14 weeks porridge.


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Swift justice handed out to guy who was involved in yesterday's carry on. 14 weeks porridge.


Quite like this swift justice. Crime one day, sentenced the next.

He might only do 6 weeks in prison but that should act as a deterrent. Especially for those that have never been ‘inside’ before.

Notice he’s a pub worker, so presumably a criminal record also stops him ever becoming a landlord.


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Splendid news that the miscreant has been s ntenced to 14 weeks behind bars.

Worrying however this was only one of three seperate pitch invading incidents this weekend.

It's now time for the FA to get much tougher with clubs who allow this type of thuggery by not having adequate security and stewarding in place.

My solution would be an automatic 4 (four) point deduction for any league club, who allows an individual to encroach on the playing area. This would concentrate minds and eradicate this scourge from the game.

Only tough action has shown to be effective and for a second offence the club should be made to play its next two home games behind closed doors.

Draconian it may be but can you imagine the general outcry if an offender were carrying an offensive weapon and subsequently used it.

No more hand wringing from the FA....they must act now, as swiftly as the courts have done.


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If a lifetime ban and a criminal record doesn't deter these individuals then playing a match behind closed doors won't bother them in the slightest. I agree it could be used as a punishment but I doubt it'll be much of a deterrent, even if it did produce a degree of peer pressure. Especially if, in this day and age of YouTube, Twitter etc, the moron responsible fancies themself as a bit of a 'celebrity'.

As some sort of stunt/prank, three "YouTubers" invaded the pitch at the Europa League game between Tottenham and Partizan Belgrade in 2014.

They each got a 3 year banning order and £150 fine for their trouble. Tottenham were fined about 100 times that.



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Without wishing to minimalise the events of yesterday I can't help but think back to a game I attended at Birmingham in 86 against Leeds when there was a 35 minute delay due to fans fighting on the pitch. The game has come a hell of a long way since those dark days so talk of empty rows of seating etc is well way off the mark.

It was 11th May 1985 (same day as the Bradford Fire). One 15 year old Birmingham fan died in the fighting.


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Without wishing to minimalise the events of yesterday I can't help but think back to a game I attended at Birmingham in 86 against Leeds when there was a 35 minute delay due to fans fighting on the pitch. The game has come a hell of a long way since those dark days so talk of empty rows of seating etc is well way off the mark.


What would you say is bang on the mark for preventing a single pitch invader, 33 years on from that? Bearing in mind that the intention these days seems to be to accost a player rather than 'just' fighting amongst themselves.

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