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Richard Rundle
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I've been told on another forum (by someone who I trust and has been in contact with the FA) that the "maximum 25% reserve teams at Step 7" is an urban myth.

I thought this was still very much part of the regulations but I can't find it in the NLS regulations or the Standardised Rules.

Was this ever a written rule, and if so when was it dropped?

(I notice in the Wiltshire League AGM notes from last summer that the league was being told by the FA to reduce the number of reserve/development sides to 25%)


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Don't know the answer but I can't see any such stipulation in the Standard Code of Rules either (Standardised Rules apply down to step 6, Standard Code of Rules apply from step 7).


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I've been told on another forum (by someone who I trust and has been in contact with the FA) that the "maximum 25% reserve teams at Step 7" is an urban myth.

I thought this was still very much part of the regulations but I can't find it in the NLS regulations or the Standardised Rules.

Was this ever a written rule, and if so when was it dropped?

(I notice in the Wiltshire League AGM notes from last summer that the league was being told by the FA to reduce the number of reserve/development sides to 25%)


Saw that a while back too - re the notes of the Wilts AGM - might be a little difficult for them to achieve though any time soon as the three feeders will almost certainly produce no candidates. Maybe they'll try and tempt Mere Town and Tisbury United to their home county's league?

Lets hope it is a myth for the Wiltshire League's sake or they'll be in hot water this summer!


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I've been told on another forum (by someone who I trust and has been in contact with the FA) that the "maximum 25% reserve teams at Step 7" is an urban myth.

I thought this was still very much part of the regulations but I can't find it in the NLS regulations or the Standardised Rules.

Was this ever a written rule, and if so when was it dropped?

(I notice in the Wiltshire League AGM notes from last summer that the league was being told by the FA to reduce the number of reserve/development sides to 25%)


It is probably one of those things that has been stated as the preferred amount by the FA at some point without it ever being set in stone.
I believe there are 40 plus step 7 divisions. Are there any with more than 25%?


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I've been told on another forum (by someone who I trust and has been in contact with the FA) that the "maximum 25% reserve teams at Step 7" is an urban myth.

I thought this was still very much part of the regulations but I can't find it in the NLS regulations or the Standardised Rules.

Was this ever a written rule, and if so when was it dropped?

(I notice in the Wiltshire League AGM notes from last summer that the league was being told by the FA to reduce the number of reserve/development sides to 25%)


It is probably one of those things that has been stated as the preferred amount by the FA at some point without it ever being set in stone.
I believe there are 40 plus step 7 divisions. Are there any with more than 25%?


Yes - just the one I believe - the aforementioned Wiltshire League. 7 of its 16 members are reserve sides - or 47%.


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the Lincolnshire county league has 5 reserve teams out of 12 members which I think is around 42% if my maths are correct


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Not officially at Step Seven but the Coventry Alliance does not allow Reserve sides in the Premier Division. Coventry Copsewood got round it by forming a separate club named Copsewood Coventry.


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if the powers that be flex their muscles further, then surely the result will be an increase in clubs such as Brackley Town Saints and Biggleswade FC.


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Most on here watch Reserve sides in the pyramid others don't but their quite happy to watch teams masquerading as First teams thanks to the FA.

Yes , your correct it would increase the pretend First teams.



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the Lincolnshire county league has 5 reserve teams out of 12 members which I think is around 42% if my maths are correct


I count only four, out of twelve.


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the Lincolnshire county league has 5 reserve teams out of 12 members which I think is around 42% if my maths are correct


I count only four, out of twelve.


Yes you are correct. I scanned the league and saw community next to Brigg and just counted as a reserves side Ie Basford united community in NSL.

Point still remains though as 4 from 12 is 33% which is still higher than 25% obviously


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The Gloucestershire County League does not allow reserve XIs. This is now starting to cause a log jam below at Step 8 where Reserve XIs are starting to top tables.


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There was a reserve team in the Glos County two seasons ago. Have they change rules since?



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There was a reserve team in the Glos County two seasons ago. Have they change rules since?


When the league was privatised about ten years ago - it was run by the Gloucestershire FA prior to that - the new group running it introduced a rule stating that the league would not accept any new reserve XIs into it. The two existing reserve XIs, Bishops Cleeve and Yate Town, have subsequently dropped out.


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There was a reserve team in the Glos County two seasons ago. Have they change rules since?


When the league was privatised about ten years ago - it was run by the Gloucestershire FA prior to that - the new group running it introduced a rule stating that the league would not accept any new reserve XIs into it. The two existing reserve XIs, Bishops Cleeve and Yate Town, have subsequently dropped out.


The Leicestershire Senior League has had plenty since the creation of the East Midlands Counties league, but they’ve gradually been reducing in number and the last remaining one (Kirby Muxloe) are likely to be relegated this season.

Albeit Ashby Ivanhoe are possible contenders to replace them. So currently 1/16. They would in theory be able to have 4.


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There was a reserve team in the Glos County two seasons ago. Have they change rules since?


When the league was privatised about ten years ago - it was run by the Gloucestershire FA prior to that - the new group running it introduced a rule stating that the league would not accept any new reserve XIs into it. The two existing reserve XIs, Bishops Cleeve and Yate Town, have subsequently dropped out.


The Leicestershire Senior League has had plenty since the creation of the East Midlands Counties league, but they’ve gradually been reducing in number and the last remaining one (Kirby Muxloe) are likely to be relegated this season.

Albeit Ashby Ivanhoe are possible contenders to replace them. So currently 1/16. They would in theory be able to have 4.
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just the 2 de facto reserve teams in the Nottinghamshire Senior League Premier - AFC Dunkirk and Eastwood CFC Development.



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I could have put money on this thread descending to another East Midlands thread.

Anyway, with the 25% reserve team no longer applicable, is the 14-team minimum for Step 7 still a thing too?


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Keeping with the East Midlands, quite a few clubs around here have a community team or a development team. Are these just reserve teams with a different name or is there some real difference?

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Keeping with the East Midlands, quite a few clubs around here have a community team or a development team. Are these just reserve teams with a different name or is there some real difference?

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AFC Dunkirk is deffo Dunkirk's reserves. Eastwood have about 2/3 overlap between their squads so I'd say reserves



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