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windydcfc
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Oct 28, 2018, 7:36 PM
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SpiderBee
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Oct 31, 2018, 2:11 PM
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Why would Farnham be refused promotion back the the Coco premier then?
The 2019/20 Colliers Wood United FC Website
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oftenscore6
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Nov 5, 2018, 1:37 PM
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I doubt that the step 3 promotion playoff matches will be based on the ppg of the participants, I think it will be the Southern Premier Central PO winners versus the Northern Premier PO winners; and Isthmian Premier PO winners v Southern Premier South PO winners. So no need for Braintree to be placed in the Conference North division!
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exile
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Nov 5, 2018, 3:21 PM
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Hall Road Rangers (middle of Hull) in the Northern League?
Hope you are doing this to draw attention to the ridiculous situation developing?
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wazzafan
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Re: [exile] Non League Projections 2019/20
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There's no one else at present unless I take one of the Leeds teams. Knaresborough are going up, Harrogate Railway are going down, no one relegated from step 4 and only 1 promoted from Step 6. I'll have to start looking at Silsden & Barnoldswick next!
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wazzafan
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Re: [oftenscore6] Non League Projections 2019/20
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Ahh! I never took this into account. Certainly sounds sensible. I'll edit the spreadsheet. I'm currently finalising the maps.
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ThornburyTom
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Nov 7, 2018, 1:19 PM
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Not sure why you've put us in the Western Prem 
As much as we've had a good start in Hellenic D1W, the fixtures have been kind to us so far.
We'd happily just take a side step to Western Div 1 though!
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HarryC
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Nov 10, 2018, 5:29 PM
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No more AC London in the CCL
https://twitter.com/A_C_London/status/1061305124595863553
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Sarumio
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Nov 13, 2018, 10:28 AM
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I did notice yetserday two things in the Step 7 promotions section
The Middlesex County League promotees were listed twice
Moreton Rangers of the Hellenic D2 Two West should be coloured differently like the Hellenic D2 teams were last year - as the divisions remain outside the official NLS and thus are not Step 7
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Sarumio
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Nov 13, 2018, 12:46 PM
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The Peninsula divisions looks ridiculous. Teams not leaving their own county at Step 6 is just a nonsense. And they'll now cover the same area as the Step 7 divisons that feed them?
Thats Cornwall effectively cut off now, out of the NLS altogether in reality and completely isolated from the rest of the country in their own little bubble - they don't even need to pretend to bother with their Devon neighbur now either.
What clever chappy came up with that idea!
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oftenscore6
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Nov 13, 2018, 12:56 PM
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I'd swap Merthyr into South Central Premier, Bognor Regis into South Premier and leave Brightlingsea Regent in the Isthmian. South Central Premier effectively feeds Conference North with it's promotees - Merthyr meet that, Essex teams surely don't?
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wazzafan
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I believe you'd be right. Although I've just had a thought on the Step 4 playoffs. At present, both clubs in the NPL have the lowest PPG (which is what I'm currently basing playoff promotion on), however wouldn't one be guaranteed promotion as the playoff would be surely against each other? his would actually eliminate the current situation.
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oftenscore6
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Nov 13, 2018, 4:26 PM
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I believe you'd be right. Although I've just had a thought on the Step 4 playoffs. At present, both clubs in the NPL have the lowest PPG (which is what I'm currently basing playoff promotion on), however wouldn't one be guaranteed promotion as the playoff would be surely against each other? his would actually eliminate the current situation. Unless I've missed an update, I thought the lowest 2 ppg playoff winners simply stayed down and there were no inter-division playoff games at step 4, only at step 3? But interdivision gives all playoff entrants a chance. If the lowest 4 ppg playoff winners at step 4 do have to playoff, then I would expect the matches to be based on closest geography, but I thought 2 simply stayed down.
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kivo
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Nov 13, 2018, 5:53 PM
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I really don't get why the EMCL hasn't had a Step 5 division yet. There are plenty of CMFL teams that could step up and fill up the Step 6 division.
Steeton, Shelley, Silsden and Golcar could then move to the NCEL.
PS - It's Grimethorpe Sports, not Grimesthorpe - and their suffix is now LLUK, not Sports
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Sarumio
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Nov 23, 2018, 8:49 PM
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Tavistock will not take up their promotion place(using the SWPL ‘get out of jail free card’).
There should be no get out of jail free card. The South West Peninsula League is either part of the pyramid/NLS or it isn't!
THE FA have recently demonstrated that there are no more exceptions, taking a hard line with the Northern League telling them "You WILL promote to the tier above, end of".
But of course we know that the problem doesn't really lie with the South West Peninsula League. It lies solely with the tier above them, the Western Premier. A league whose footprint is both too large and in entirely the wrong position.
And drilling down, the problem in that division lies with the presence of Bristol, Gloucestershire and Wiltshire sides.
These clubs should of course play in the Hellenic League (former two) and Wessex (the latter).
As the Hellenic Prem is filled with weak sides who should really be at Step 6 but are only at Step 5 due to vacancies, and the lower two divisions lie half empty, half populated by reserve sides and desperate groundsharers, the Western bulges at maximum capacity, with barely a club from the South West in sight.
And so any Step 7 side from Gloucestershire or Bristol wanting to move up look to the Western as that's where their local buddies are, exacerbating the problem further.
And of course Glos and Bristol sides playing teams from Devon and North Dorset is a nonsense, when they should be taking on Oxfordshire and possibly Herefordshire and Worcestershire sides, leaving the Western League to shift south westerly.
The obvious solution is to move the Bristol, North Wiltshire and Gloucestershire sides to the Hellenic and Westbury/Warminster/Devizes/Sherborne to the Wessex.
But no we have this stupid nonsense of the SWPL being awarded two divisions at Step 6, basically county leagues, instead of doing the above, moving 10-12 present SWPL clubs up to the Western Premier, replacing the clubs that move over to the Hellenic/Wessex, and leaving the present SWPL league structure (one that actually works and isn't completely isolationist) in place.
And so cutting off the two peninsula counties from the rest of the country and effectively, to all intents of purposes, completely out of the National League System, is deemed the better option.
Rather perplexing!
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windydcfc
Man City Transfer Target!
Nov 23, 2018, 9:15 PM
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Tavistock will not take up their promotion place(using the SWPL ‘get out of jail free card’). There should be no get out of jail free card. The South West Peninsula League is either part of the pyramid/NLS or it isn't! THE FA have recently demonstrated that there are no more exceptions, taking a hard line with the Northern League telling them "You WILL promote to the tier above, end of". But of course we know that the problem doesn't really lie with the South West Peninsula League. It lies solely with the tier above them, the Western Premier. A league whose footprint is both too large and in entirely the wrong position. And drilling down, the problem in that division lies with the presence of Bristol, Gloucestershire and Wiltshire sides. These clubs should of course play in the Hellenic League (former two) and Wessex (the latter). As the Hellenic Prem is filled with weak sides who should really be at Step 6 but are only at Step 5 due to vacancies, and the lower two divisions lie half empty, half populated by reserve sides and desperate groundsharers, the Western bulges at maximum capacity, with barely a club from the South West in sight. And so any Step 7 side from Gloucestershire or Bristol wanting to move up look to the Western as that's where their local buddies are, exacerbating the problem further. And of course Glos and Bristol sides playing teams from Devon and North Dorset is a nonsense, when they should be taking on Oxfordshire and possibly Herefordshire and Worcestershire sides, leaving the Western League to shift south westerly. The obvious solution is to move the Bristol, North Wiltshire and Gloucestershire sides to the Hellenic and Westbury/Warminster/Devizes/Sherborne to the Wessex. But no we have this stupid nonsense of the SWPL being awarded two divisions at Step 6, basically county leagues, instead of doing the above, moving 10-12 present SWPL clubs up to the Western Premier, replacing the clubs that move over to the Hellenic/Wessex, and leaving the present SWPL league structure (one that actually works and isn't completely isolationist) in place. And so cutting off the two peninsula counties from the rest of the country and effectively, to all intents of purposes, completely out of the National League System, is deemed the better option. Rather perplexing!
If Exmouth fail to achieve a top 2 place(2nd place doesn’t guarantee promotion), then no clubs will be promoted from the SWPL.
On another matter, those that complained about compulsory promotion & how it would destroy teams. Both Marske & Morpeth have come out & stated how much they’re enjoying the NPL. Both are doing extremely well in their first season at the new level. Several NL clubs are keen to follow them up & you’ve got to wonder why they held themselves back for so long?
Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9
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ARNOLD241
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Nov 24, 2018, 6:11 PM
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I think it depends on whether Man C are relegated from the Premier League.
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