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mick
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Looks like the resignations are starting even earlier than usual this time - Sleaford Sports Amateurs have tweeted today that they are folding.


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http://www.lincolnshirefootballleague.co.uk/201819-league-constitution-51771

Following the league's AGM held on 4th July, we can confirm thirteen teams will make up the league for the 2018/19 campaign.

Brigg Town {relegated from NCEL}
Cleethorpes Town reserves {new}
Gainsborough Trinity reserves {new}
Grimsby Borough reserves
Horncastle Town
Immingham Town
Lincoln Moorlands Railway {transferred from CML}
Lincoln United reserves {new}
Louth Town
Nettleham
Ruston Sports
Spalding United reserves {new}
Wyberton



One moment's high and glory rolls on by


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Right so presumably Step 7 status is lost - and it becomes a feeder to the Centrak Midands League again?

Lincoln Moorlands Railway won't be too happy that their transfer over has resulted in their effective relegation?


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Nope, it still has step 7 status.


Sarumio
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Nope, it still has step 7 status.


How? The reqirement is to have a minimum of 14 teams.

Th Linclnshire League does not! So how do they keep it?


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Nope, it still has step 7 status.


How? The reqirement is to have a minimum of 14 teams.

Th Linclnshire League does not! So how do they keep it?


Possibly because Sleaford Sports were the 14th team? Does the league lose its Step 7 status straight away because they go under the minimum number of teams?



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Nope, it still has step 7 status.


How? The reqirement is to have a minimum of 14 teams.

Th Linclnshire League does not! So how do they keep it?


Possibly because Sleaford Sports were the 14th team? Does the league lose its Step 7 status straight away because they go under the minimum number of teams?


Yes sides will be lost across other divisions, so no its not instan but I'd say a league has to actually START the season with 14 teams in order to be considered a 14-team division.

And 5 reserve sides out of 13? really? The league is, very unfortunately, fast becoming a bit of a joke!


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Nope, it still has step 7 status.


How? The reqirement is to have a minimum of 14 teams.

Th Linclnshire League does not! So how do they keep it?


Possibly because Sleaford Sports were the 14th team? Does the league lose its Step 7 status straight away because they go under the minimum number of teams?

Yes sides will be lost across other divisions, so no its not instan but I'd say a league has to actually START the season with 14 teams in order to be considered a 14-team division.

And 5 reserve sides out of 13? really? The league is, very unfortunately, fast becoming a bit of a joke!


According to the FA allocations, three of the five (Cleethorpes Town, Lincoln United & Spalding United) are listed as academy teams, not reserves. Also, Sleaford Sports are on there too so they would have started with 14 teams.



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The Lincs league asked the FA, why two Lincolnshire sides were allowed to join the CML1N. If the FA are seriously going to support county leagues, then surely they should place teams in the correct leagues! Instead they can get around this, by allowing the leagues to place them in the nominal step 8 leagues. I hope one of the clubs are promoted & laterally moved across at the end of the season!


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The Lincs league asked the FA, why two Lincolnshire sides were allowed to join the CML1N. If the FA are seriously going to support county leagues, then surely they should place teams in the correct leagues! Instead they can get around this, by allowing the leagues to place them in the nominal step 8 leagues. I hope one of the clubs are promoted & laterally moved across at the end of the season!


What I don’t understand is why clubs in the Lincs League catchment area would rather play in a divisiin rather than remain in their own area at step 7.


Richard Rundle
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The Lincs league asked the FA, why two Lincolnshire sides were allowed to join the CML1N. If the FA are seriously going to support county leagues, then surely they should place teams in the correct leagues!


Rubbish

Let clubs play in the leagues they want to play in rather than the ones you think they should geographically be in.

If Lincs clubs prefer to play in the Central Midlands rather than the Lincolnshire League, the latter needs to take a long hard look at itself and ask itself why.


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The Lincs league asked the FA, why two Lincolnshire sides were allowed to join the CML1N. If the FA are seriously going to support county leagues, then surely they should place teams in the correct leagues!


Rubbish

Let clubs play in the leagues they want to play in rather than the ones you think they should geographically be in.

If Lincs clubs prefer to play in the Central Midlands rather than the Lincolnshire League, the latter needs to take a long hard look at itself and ask itself why.



I totally disagree & think clubs at county level should play in their county leagues. The FA should create a Derbyshire league & place all the Derbyshire CML clubs in that league. Move all the Lincolnshire clubs in the Lincs league, the Nottinghamshire clubs in the Notts Senior League & the Yorkshire clubs in the Sheffield & Hallamshire County League. I know I’m not the only person in the region that thinks this should be the case. Obviously you disagree & that’s absolutely fine.


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The Lincs league asked the FA, why two Lincolnshire sides were allowed to join the CML1N. If the FA are seriously going to support county leagues, then surely they should place teams in the correct leagues! Instead they can get around this, by allowing the leagues to place them in the nominal step 8 leagues. I hope one of the clubs are promoted & laterally moved across at the end of the season!


What I don’t understand is why clubs in the Lincs League catchment area would rather play in a divisiin rather than remain in their own area at step 7.



There could be many reasons! Maybe someone at one of those clubs has had experience of the CML & assumes that it is a superior league. Personally I’d like to see all the Lincolnshire clubs in the Lincs league & for that league to be regionalised.


Sarumio
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Nope, it still has step 7 status.


How? The reqirement is to have a minimum of 14 teams.

Th Linclnshire League does not! So how do they keep it?


Possibly because Sleaford Sports were the 14th team? Does the league lose its Step 7 status straight away because they go under the minimum number of teams?

Yes sides will be lost across other divisions, so no its not instan but I'd say a league has to actually START the season with 14 teams in order to be considered a 14-team division.

And 5 reserve sides out of 13? really? The league is, very unfortunately, fast becoming a bit of a joke!


According to the FA allocations, three of the five (Cleethorpes Town, Lincoln United & Spalding United) are listed as academy teams, not reserves. Also, Sleaford Sports are on there too so they would have started with 14 teams.


You're kidding mr right? Splitting hairs over reserves and academy sides?

Yes Sleaford Sports are on there- That just means their name is on a piece of paper. It means nothing. Thye have to actually start the season!

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skeggy meggie
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Rather than fast becoming a joke, surely it's actually slightly less of one than it was last season.


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Jul 12, 2018, 7:19 PM

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The Lincs league asked the FA, why two Lincolnshire sides were allowed to join the CML1N. If the FA are seriously going to support county leagues, then surely they should place teams in the correct leagues! Instead they can get around this, by allowing the leagues to place them in the nominal step 8 leagues. I hope one of the clubs are promoted & laterally moved across at the end of the season!


What I don’t understand is why clubs in the Lincs League catchment area would rather play in a divisiin rather than remain in their own area at step 7.


When you look at the map though gord, you can see why Epworth and Crowle might rather head West, (M180, M18, M1) towards a cluster of clubs rather than South, and the scattered clubs of the Lincolnshire League. Maybe Epworth and Crowle wouldn't be interested in progressing to Level 11 of the system if the FA made them play in a league where they had to travel down to South Lincs?


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The Lincs league asked the FA, why two Lincolnshire sides were allowed to join the CML1N. If the FA are seriously going to support county leagues, then surely they should place teams in the correct leagues! Instead they can get around this, by allowing the leagues to place them in the nominal step 8 leagues. I hope one of the clubs are promoted & laterally moved across at the end of the season!


What I don’t understand is why clubs in the Lincs League catchment area would rather play in a divisiin rather than remain in their own area at step 7.


When you look at the map though gord, you can see why Epworth and Crowle might rather head West, (M180, M18, M1) towards a cluster of clubs rather than South, and the scattered clubs of the Lincolnshire League. Maybe Epworth and Crowle wouldn't be interested in progressing to Level 11 of the system if the FA made them play in a league where they had to travel down to South Lincs?



Absolutely right, a point which I have made numerous times. It all about basic geography!

To be pedantic, neither Crowle nor Epworth are actually in Lincolnshire. Crowle is in the county of North Lincolnshire. Epworth is administered by North Lincolnshire Council but if you Google Epworth you will see that DN9 is actually a Doncaster postcode. Fit that into a nice pigeon hole if you can.Tongue

Anyway, the Lincs League is doomed unless the Blazers agree to a north/ south (or east/west) split which might attract other teams in local leagues to join, especially as the local leagues get smaller each passing year, one of the reasons why Crowle and Epworth have made this move from the Scunthorpe League.



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The post code isn't really relevant is it ?
Just about all of the northern part of the county has a DN postcode.
&, off the top of my head, at least four of the teams are either in North or North East Lincolnshire (Brigg, Gy Boro, Clee Town and Immingham) - at the end of the day what difference does it make ?


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The post code isn't really relevant is it ?
Just about all of the northern part of the county has a DN postcode.


The Grantham & Sleaford areas are both NG postcodes. South Lincolnshire have PE postcodes. So I agree, postcodes are irrelevant. What is relevant is the county area & the clubs that play in those counties. Let’s be honest, apart from Worksop & Retford. Crowle & Epworth aren’t exactly close to the other teams in the CML1N!


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To be pedantic, neither Crowle nor Epworth are actually in Lincolnshire. Crowle is in the county of North Lincolnshire. Epworth is administered by North Lincolnshire Council but if you Google Epworth you will see that DN9 is actually a Doncaster postcode. Fit that into a nice pigeon hole if you can.


North Lincolnshire and North East Lincolnshire – these are not counties – they are unitary authorities.

Crowle and Epworth are still in Lincolnshire.

It’s like saying Bath is not in Somerset or Swindon and Highworth are not in Wiltshire! Complete nonsense!


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Why are so attached to county boundaries for leagues? These boundaries were determined in many cases hundreds of years ago, and we need to let modern communication routes etc. be the primary factor, not an arbitrary line on a centuries-old map.


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Why are so attached to county boundaries for leagues? These boundaries were determined in many cases hundreds of years ago, and we need to let modern communication routes etc. be the primary factor, not an arbitrary line on a centuries-old map.


This makes far too much sense to be a rule



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Why are so attached to county boundaries for leagues? These boundaries were determined in many cases hundreds of years ago, and we need to let modern communication routes etc. be the primary factor, not an arbitrary line on a centuries-old map.


Richard - I am not that attached to them.

I was merely picking up on a point that Crowle and Epworth are not in Lincolnshire, when they clearly are.

I've no strong opinion as to which league teams from those two towns should should play in, nor was I stating one.


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Have you worn out the number 1 on your keyboard yet!!!



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Have you worn out the number 1 on your keyboard yet!!!


And have you got anything sensible say? Or just here to poke fun at others?

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