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Tykeoldboy
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Think I read somewhere that German "safe standing" is on a ratio of 3 standing spectators for every 2 seats. So every spectator still gets their designated area, but there are just slightly more of them.


That would work in England but would probably require lines to be painted so that. (1) each spectator could visibly see their allocated space and (2) it keep H&S bods happy.



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Think I read somewhere that German "safe standing" is on a ratio of 3 standing spectators for every 2 seats.


The capacity at Borussia Dortmund is ~81k for domestic games where safe standing is in place. For UEFA all-seater matches the capacity is ~65k.


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When Shrewsbury did a demonstration of their rail seats the person had an allen key and locked the seat down. I understood them to be like German rail seats but are they different?



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I have seen rail seats in Germany that can be locked into either position.



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Is there a link to the Shrewsbury demo ?

The seats at Shrewsbury are from Ferco (who also did Celtic Park). The blurb and promotional video on the company's website makes no mention of any locking down in the seating position.


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I would expect that locking down to a seating position is a health and safety issue? Harder to evcuate if you are having to shuffle out of the seating sections, rather than just walking.


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I presume there would be plenty of space if they can be locked down. Mick - no link but I'm sure it was on Midlands Today.



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Won't it depend on the space between the front of the seat and the back of the seat in front. For example the Amex at Brighton has plenty of leg room for a seated fan whereas in some stadia you sit with your knees under your chin. (Slight exaggeration but I am sure you know what I mean).



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in some stadia you sit with your knees under your chin. (Slight exaggeration but I am sure you know what I mean).


No exaggeration at some grounds - QPR and Brentford to name 2 local-ish ones where anyone over about 5ft 10 cannot sit down properly. Certainly this is the case in the away sections (plus the Loft End at QPR), assume similar for the remainder of the grounds.


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in some stadia you sit with your knees under your chin. (Slight exaggeration but I am sure you know what I mean).


No exaggeration at some grounds - QPR and Brentford to name 2 local-ish ones where anyone over about 5ft 10 cannot sit down properly. Certainly this is the case in the away sections (plus the Loft End at QPR), assume similar for the remainder of the grounds.

With a restricted view at QPR in many seats for visiting fans which used to be advertised on match tickets but at the same price!


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in some stadia you sit with your knees under your chin. (Slight exaggeration but I am sure you know what I mean).


No exaggeration at some grounds - QPR and Brentford to name 2 local-ish ones where anyone over about 5ft 10 cannot sit down properly. Certainly this is the case in the away sections (plus the Loft End at QPR), assume similar for the remainder of the grounds.


The away end at Brammall Lane is probably the worst I've experienced.


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Darlington Arena was horrendous (for many reasons!). 27,000 seats crammed into a ground that would more comfortably hold around 18,000. I went there once, and spent the whole game with my knees seemingly under my chin, and squashed up against the people either side of me.


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From the BBC website...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44362522

...a couple of videos with Richard Conway, explaining about safe standing at Shrewsbury and at Celtic.


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The Kop at Bramall Lane is even worse.



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The away end at Luton, takes some beating


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Not specifically about terracing or standing, but I liked this piece...

https://www.bbc.com/...n-a-stadium/p06bg8xf

...about incorporating crowd atmosphere into modern stadium design (something that the designers of the Kassam Stadium obviously paid no attention to at all Crazy).

I know Everton are very enthusiastic about this sort of thing with the design for their new ground.


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Minister agrees to a review

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44606399



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Updated for the 2018~19 season...



Championship~
Brentford - Griffin Park

League One~
Burton Albion - Pirelli Stadium
Scunthorpe United - Glanford Park
Peterborough United - London Road
Bristol Rovers - Memorial Ground
AFC Wimbledon - Kingsmeadow
Fleetwood Town - Highbury
Rochdale - Spotland
Shrewsbury Town - New Meadow
Accrington Stanley - Crown Ground
Wycombe Wanderers - Adams Park

League Two~
Exeter City - St.James Park
Newport County - Rodney Parade
Cambridge United - Abbey Stadium
Carlisle United - Brunton Park
Cheltenham Town - Whaddon Road
Stevenage - Broadhall Way
Crawley Town - Broadfield Stadium
Morecambe - Globe Arena
Yeovil Town - Huish Park
Forest Green Rovers - The New Lawn
Macclesfield Town - Moss Rose


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Tottenham Hotspur's new ground will be fitted with 7,500 seats that can be converted to safe-standing within an hour...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/...in-an-hour-vc5hfpmsl

I'm not sure on what occasions they'll be allowed to use them in the near future (presumably not Premier League matches), but it is good to see that 2,500 of them will be in the section reserved for away fans.


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My apologies for including a link to 'The Sun'...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/...sbury-safe-standing/

...but from what I can see (with the exception of the Shropshire Star) they seem to be the only newspaper to have reported online about the use of safe-standing at the Shrewsbury Town v. Bradford City match on Saturday. They have also included several decent photos of the section in use during the match by Shrews' fans.


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Not exactly, safe-standing in the way that it's being done at Celtic and Shrewsbury, but a story in today's Oxford Mail...

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/...ch-at-oxford-united/

...says that a metal rail has been installed infront of the back row of seats the width of the East Stand at Oxford United's Kassam Stadium. They're calling it the Ox-Rail, and if it is successful the plan is to install rails infront of 1,390 seats in the East Stand, and infront of a further 810 seats in the away section of the North Stand.


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Updated for the 2019~20 season...



Championship~
Brentford - Griffin Park

League One~
Burton Albion - Pirelli Stadium
Peterborough United - London Road
Bristol Rovers - Memorial Ground
AFC Wimbledon - Kingsmeadow
Fleetwood Town - Highbury
Rochdale - Spotland
Shrewsbury Town - New Meadow
Accrington Stanley - Crown Ground
Wycombe Wanderers - Adams Park

League Two~
Scunthorpe United - Glanford Park
Exeter City - St.James Park
Newport County - Rodney Parade
Cambridge United - Abbey Stadium
Carlisle United - Brunton Park
Cheltenham Town - Whaddon Road
Stevenage - Broadhall Way
Crawley Town - Broadfield Stadium
Morecambe - Globe Arena
Forest Green Rovers - The New Lawn
Macclesfield Town - Moss Rose
Salford City - Moor Lane

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