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Ropemaker
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I see Celtic have been given permission to install rail seating, which could be introduced for 2,600 spectators for the start of 2016/17.

http://www.theguardian.com/...d-permission-granted

Could this mean ... surely not?



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Different laws what we have in England so there is little hope of it being introduced down here for EPL games.


Isaac
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 Looks like we're stuck with what we've got..............unsafe standingUnsure


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Looks like we're stuck with what we've got..............unsafe standingUnsure


That being punters standing in the seated areas blocking the view of those who might want to sitUnsure and the stewards / clubs doing nowt about it.


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The Labour party thought it had safe standing in Scotland
before last month's General Election.




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Safe standing is that anything like standing on grassbanks at football which is dangerous at step 5 when there are 23 people attending a game but OK at Grand Prix's and things like the World Speedway Team Cup where thousands can stand on grassbanks, at the later in the pouring rain while drinking and waving flags & fags.


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Safe standing is that anything like standing on grassbanks at football which is dangerous at step 5 when there are 23 people attending a game but OK at Grand Prix's and things like the World Speedway Team Cup where thousands can stand on grassbanks, at the later in the pouring rain while drinking and waving flags & fags.


I was at the Speedway GP at Vojens a couple of years ago, 16,000 spectators and most of us standing on the grassbanks. Even the completely pished Poles managed without problems.


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Safe standing is that anything like standing on grassbanks at football which is dangerous at step 5 when there are 23 people attending a game but OK at Grand Prix's and things like the World Speedway Team Cup where thousands can stand on grassbanks, at the later in the pouring rain while drinking and waving flags & fags.


I was at the Speedway GP at Vojens a couple of years ago, 16,000 spectators and most of us standing on the grassbanks. Even the completely pished Poles managed without problems.

Harlow Town v Leicester in the FAC in 1980 with a couple of thousand City fans pished and pishing on the grass bank with no real problems.


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Looks like we're stuck with what we've got..............unsafe standingUnsure


That being punters standing in the seated areas blocking the view of those who might want to sitUnsure and the stewards / clubs doing nowt about it.






Exactly, it just has a domino effect and everybody ends up standing!


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Looks like we're stuck with what we've got..............unsafe standingUnsure


That being punters standing in the seated areas blocking the view of those who might want to sitUnsure and the stewards / clubs doing nowt about it.


Except they don't do nowt about it, they have a go at the people who want to sit but can't see without standing!


kirby knitters
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Looks like we're stuck with what we've got..............unsafe standingUnsure


That being punters standing in the seated areas blocking the view of those who might want to sitUnsure and the stewards / clubs doing nowt about it.


Except they don't do nowt about it, they have a go at the people who want to sit but can't see without standing!

Didn't the local authority threaten to close a section of seating at Old Trafford because of fans standing?


Sale Holmfield
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Looks like we're stuck with what we've got..............unsafe standingUnsure


That being punters standing in the seated areas blocking the view of those who might want to sitUnsure and the stewards / clubs doing nowt about it.


Except they don't do nowt about it, they have a go at the people who want to sit but can't see without standing!

Didn't the local authority threaten to close a section of seating at Old Trafford because of fans standing?

Yes, they did. One of my local councillors (Old Trafford isn't in Manchester as may have been mentioned from time to timeTongue) was on the case, but nothing actually came of it.


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A few months ago some bereaved Hillsborough families were invited to an exhibition of rail terracing, but on seeing it they were not convinced it would work. In truth I think they were, sadly, too upset by memories of their dead loved ones to be able to able to display an objective viewpoint. A rather bad error of judgement by the organisers perhaps?


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Here we go again Shocked


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With this new safe standing, are fans allocated to a particular row/space or can they stand where they like?


mick
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In Germany you can stand where you like (and it is not 'new' Wink)


DonQuixote
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Bad error of judgement?

I think it is totally shocking - what knob woke up
thinking that would be a good idea? Shocked




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In Germany you can also take your beer back to your seat! Since we can't be trusted to do that, or stand on grass banks etc, wondered how regimented we'd all be in these not so new Wink standing areas. I guess if we could stand anywhere it'd just be capacity-controlled with ticket only admission. Or something like that.


DonQuixote
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I wonder if the stewards will force fans to stand, if say, you
wanted to plonk yourself down at half-time, or during the
game if there's room?

May sound stupid but there's been a whole shovel of stupidity
with petty rules in recent times, so don't count it out just yet.




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kirby knitters
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In Germany you can also take your beer back to your seat! Since we can't be trusted to do that, or stand on grass banks etc, wondered how regimented we'd all be in these not so new Wink standing areas. I guess if we could stand anywhere it'd just be capacity-controlled with ticket only admission. Or something like that.

At a guess it would be that small it would almost certainly be ticket only (at least to start with ) and taking beer onto terraces will probably never happen again. It certainly does throw you in Germany at a big stadium to stand watching a game while drinking and smokingSmile


andymac
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Interesting thread this. Especially as the supporters of the club that gave us "All seater Stadia" are the ones that "Stand up" all game, home or away. The stewards at The Brit. will allow travelling fans to stand all game but will make the Home fans sit down. Why is this?
Andymac


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Interesting thread this. Especially as the supporters of the club that gave us "All seater Stadia" are the ones that "Stand up" all game, home or away. The stewards at The Brit. will allow travelling fans to stand all game but will make the Home fans sit down. Why is this?
Andymac

As Coventry are in League 1, that shouldn't be so much of a problem to stand up though?

In Germany some matches only serve non-alcoholic beer - though in some cases this may just be limited to away fans I believe



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kirby knitters
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Coventry?


jon b
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Interesting thread this. Especially as the supporters of the club that gave us "All seater Stadia" are the ones that "Stand up" all game, home or away. The stewards at The Brit. will allow travelling fans to stand all game but will make the Home fans sit down. Why is this?
Andymac

Too much hassle to try to confront away fans for ninety minutes over something that only inconveniences those away fans who want to watch while seated but have their view blocked by those standing.

Whilst if they want to take on standing home fans, there's the option of cancelling their season tickets.


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Coventry?


They were the club that "brought us all-seater stadia"

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