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Sad news about Bob Crow - one of the few trade unions leaders willing to fight for his members. I know he's not everybodies cup of tea but without the likes of Crow over the years working people would be living in caves!



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Not somebody who I had any time for but I certainly won't suggest that he 'rots in hell' like he did about Margaret Thatcher.

He was a Millwall fan and I remember a steward there telling me his behaviour often left much to be desired.

Still nobody deserves to have their life curtailed at the age of 52...........RIP


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One of the last, true, working-class heroes.

Had the revolution come in his time he would have led from the front.

As they say at Millwall : "No one likes us; we don't care."


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A tragic loss, very sad news.
His knowledge of the rail industry and dedication and enthusiasm for protecting our jobs and conditions will be much missed. A rare voice of common sense in this world.
Were it not for leaders like Bob we would have all been replaced by agency workers on peanuts with no proper training, contract, or pay and conditions. These things people fought hard to get in the past and should not just be given away like every other industry. There will never be another Bob Crow, but I hope someone can step forward and continue the vital role he played in an increasingly fragmented transport industry where profit comes before safety.
RIP Bob Crow.



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rip even though sometimes on telly he could come across as a bit of a prat,,,,,,



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A tragic loss, very sad news.
His knowledge of the rail industry and dedication and enthusiasm for protecting our jobs and conditions will be much missed. A rare voice of common sense in this world.
Were it not for leaders like Bob we would have all been replaced by agency workers on peanuts with no proper training, contract, or pay and conditions. These things people fought hard to get in the past and should not just be given away like every other industry. There will never be another Bob Crow, but I hope someone can step forward and continue the vital role he played in an increasingly fragmented transport industry where profit comes before safety.
RIP Bob Crow.


Sadly that happened 20 or so years ago in many industries and professions due to computerisation and experienced professional staff being replaced by call centres staffed by persons who read from script and get thrown when asked a question that is not on a sheet in front of them. This is why we are in the mess we have been in.


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There will never be another Bob Crow, but I hope someone can step forward and continue the vital role he played in an increasingly fragmented transport industry where profit comes before safety.
RIP Bob Crow.


Very well said.

increasingly fragmented transport industry where profit comes before safety

the same can be said for huge swaithes of the public sector sadly, "profit before people" is the political mantra of our times.


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In a recent interview in The Guardian with Decca Aitkenhead, Bob Crow hinted that he might not stand for re-election in 2016 for his position as leader of the RMT because he wanted to spend more time with his grandchildren, go to watch Millwall FC more, and go to every football ground in Britain. He was a groundhopper at heart! Smile


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Was choked when I heard the news, he was one of my political heroes. A solid, intelligent working class bloke...with the 'bonus' of being Millwall!

I'd just got off my coach from Brussels last Wednesday evening, and grabbed a Metro & Standard at Victoria station. I sat on the train home, having not read a paper for a week..and turning a couple of pages in learnt that he was dead. I was gutted.

With regard to 'wishing someone dead' or being happy they are dead...well why should you be nice about someone you despised just because they have died, regardless of what age or the circumstances. I was more annoyed by the quasi-condolences from Boris Johnson, which I have no doubt were different from what he might have said in private. He would have done better to be honest and said nothing...but then he's not renowned for his honesty...especially when it comes to London's public transort, so why change the habits of a lifetime?



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Which begs the question as to what Boris is supposed to say if an interviewer asked him about the untimely death of Bob Crow, if he had just stubbornly refused to comment his detractors would have had a field day.

And of course Boris isn't the first mayor of London to be less than honest about public transport.


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How about something along the lines of: "It's terribly sad when someone dies so young, & I respect it's a terrible time for his family, but i'm not going to say he was a great man, as we were clearly totally opposite politically"...



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How about something along the lines of: "It's terribly sad when someone dies so young, & I respect it's a terrible time for his family, but i'm not going to say he was a great man, as we were clearly totally opposite politically"...



Yes that sounds ok, I must admit that I don't know what Boris actually did say although it is possible to be politically opposed to somebody and still regard them as a great person.


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Boris said:

Whatever our political differences, and there were many, this is tragic news. Bob fought tirelessly for his beliefs and for his members. There can be absolutely no doubt that he played a big part in the success of the Tube, and he shared my goal to make transport in London an even greater success. It's a sad day.

What's wrong with that? Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean you can't admire, or even like, them.


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If Boris & his ilk had their way public transport workers would not have the pay, safety & conditions they have, which as far as I am concerned is the yardstick all workers should be able to aim for.

As for making transport an even greater success....well that will never happen unless services are nationalised and fares subsidised to a rate that everyone can afford. It's shocking that we are the most expensive in Europe.

And as far as I am concerned when you are as far apart politically as Boris & Bob then there is nothing to admire either way.



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Some good posts by Mishi here



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Mr.Crow's untimely demise is probably not a great advert for a diet that consists almost entirely of alcohol and red meat, as I believe he was partial to. Tony Benn, on the other hand, was more or less vegetarian (although he did admit to eating fish occasionally) for the last thirty years or so of his life and was 88 when he died.


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Mr.Crow's untimely demise is probably not a great advert for a diet that consists almost entirely of alcohol and red meat, as I believe he was partial to. Tony Benn, on the other hand, was more or less vegetarian (although he did admit to eating fish occasionally) for the last thirty years or so of his life and was 88 when he died.


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Mr.Crow's untimely demise is probably not a great advert for a diet that consists almost entirely of alcohol and red meat, as I believe he was partial to. Tony Benn, on the other hand, was more or less vegetarian (although he did admit to eating fish occasionally) for the last thirty years or so of his life and was 88 when he died.



You might well be right, my health certainly improved considerably since I cut out meat and reduced my alcohol intake.


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Mr.Crow's untimely demise is probably not a great advert for a diet that consists almost entirely of alcohol and red meat, as I believe he was partial to. Tony Benn, on the other hand, was more or less vegetarian (although he did admit to eating fish occasionally) for the last thirty years or so of his life and was 88 when he died.



You might well be right, my health certainly improved considerably since I cut out meat and reduced my alcohol intake.



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Mr.Crow's untimely demise is probably not a great advert for a diet that consists almost entirely of alcohol and red meat, as I believe he was partial to. Tony Benn, on the other hand, was more or less vegetarian (although he did admit to eating fish occasionally) for the last thirty years or so of his life and was 88 when he died.


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Mr.Crow's untimely demise is probably not a great advert for a diet that consists almost entirely of alcohol and red meat, as I believe he was partial to. Tony Benn, on the other hand, was more or less vegetarian (although he did admit to eating fish occasionally) for the last thirty years or so of his life and was 88 when he died.


You might well be right, my health certainly improved considerably since I cut out meat and reduced my alcohol intake.


How about if you cut out all food?

Best to have a balanced diet, carnivorous or otherwise.



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Mr.Crow's untimely demise is probably not a great advert for a diet that consists almost entirely of alcohol and red meat, as I believe he was partial to. Tony Benn, on the other hand, was more or less vegetarian (although he did admit to eating fish occasionally) for the last thirty years or so of his life and was 88 when he died.


You might well be right, my health certainly improved considerably since I cut out meat and reduced my alcohol intake.


How about if you cut out all food?

Best to have a balanced diet, carnivorous or otherwise.




Not a good ideaMad


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"Mr.Crow's untimely demise is probably not a great advert for a diet that consists almost entirely of alcohol and red meat, as I believe he was partial to. Tony Benn, on the other hand, was more or less vegetarian (although he did admit to eating fish occasionally) for the last thirty years or so of his life and was 88 when he died. "

His death is also not a good advert for a high pressure job of union leader, which must be extremely stressful. I'm intrigued to know how you know what his diet consists of.

Some people with diets that don't conform to medical reccomendations may have a lesser life expectancy, on the other hand many have long and fruitful lives to a very old age on the same diet.

Likewise the same can apply to vegetarians, or are you saying they don't die young?



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His death is also not a good advert for a high pressure job of union leader, which must be extremely stressful. I


Arthur Scargill - who took more stick from the press than Bob Crow ever did - is still alive and well.


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His death is also not a good advert for a high pressure job of union leader, which must be extremely stressful. I


Arthur Scargill - who took more stick from the press than Bob Crow ever did - is still alive and well.


Is he vegetarian?



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