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Paulc does a great job in keeping us up to date with the Scottish Amateur Cup results.

I thought it might be of interest to start a thread outlining the structure of Amateur football around Scotland.

In this thread I will stick to Winter Saturday afternoon Leagues. Once complete I might get round to doing the same for Saturday Morning, Sunday Amateur, Summer and Welfare Leagues.

Saturday Amateur football is a bit of a twilight world. I know a few people on this board who dip into it from time to time and the quality of football can be surprisingly good. However, don’t expect things like pie huts, programmes or covered enclosures – although all of these do appear from time to time. Another quirk of the Scottish Amateur game is that pitches are seldom railed or roped off.

I’ll start in the South East and work anti-clockwise around the country, hopefully adding one or two per week.

BORDER AMATEUR FA

Territory
Covers from the North Sea coast of Berwickshire through the whole Border region to the boundary with Dumfries and Galloway. Includes one team from England and two from Scotland that used to play in England.

Structure
Three Divisions, using the terminology A, B and C.

Member Clubs 2013/14

Division A

Greenlaw – one of the closest teams to Edinburgh, nice ground at Ernest Happer Memorial Park

Stow – soon to have a railway station on the new Edinburgh to Gala line
Chirnside United – used to be full SFA members, playing in the Scottish Cup in the 50s at their present ground, Comrades Park. Crowd of 3000 saw them play Third Lanark there in the Cup in 1958

Hearts of Liddesdale – from Newcastleton, used to play in Cumberland football
Newtown – from Newtown St Boswells
Leithen Rovers – from Innerleithen, play on the park outside Vale’s ground
Ancrum – braw wee ground, well worth a visit
West Barns Star – from near Dunbar
Gala Fairydean Rovers – the second string of the Lowland League side
Hawick Waverley – play in Wilton Lodge Park
Tweeddale Rovers – from Peebles

Division B

Hawick Legion - play in Wilton Lodge Park
Eyemouth Amateurs - semi official second string of Eyemouth United, play on the back pitch at Warner Park
Coldstream Amateurs – semi-official second string of East of Scotland League side. Play on the lower pitch within Home Park
Hawick United – share Albert Park with Hawick Royal Albert
Jed Legion – from Jedburgh
Gala Hotspur – usually use one of the back pitches at Netherdale
Gordon – great wee ground, one of my favourites
Linton Hotspur - from West Linton but sometimes play on a 3G park in Penicuik. Not to be confused with East Linton which is many miles away
Langholm Legion – well down the A7 towards the frontier
Biggar – sometimes play some miles away at King George V Park in Carnwath. This ground was used by Forth Wanderers of the West Juniors for a season in the 1990s. Also use Monteith Park in Carstairs as well as Kerfield Park in Biggar itself.
Selkirk Victoria - semi-official second string of Lowland League side, play on the outside pitch at Yarrow Park

Division C

Earlston Rhymers – nice wee park called Runciman Park
Melrose – lovely town.
Chirnside United Colts – use the Primary School park in Chirnside
St Boswells – Borderers hate each other so much they had to make Newtown St Boswells the administrative centre rather than any of the more obvious choices, must to avoid a fight
Tweedmouth Amateurs – play at The Five Arches in Tweedmouth
Kelso Thistle – play on the back pitch at Woodside Park
CFC Bowholm – from Canonbie, on the A7 close to the English frontier. Used to play in Cumberland football.
Lauder – bit of a rugby stronghold
Hawick Legion Rovers – another team that uses Wilton Lodge Park


Cups

There are a lot. Some are for all clubs, some are divisional. The Border Cup and the Collie Cup are separate competitions and have sod all to do with dugs. The Finals always had programmes issued in the past. Teams can also enter the South of Scotland Amateur Cup and the Scottish Amateur Cup itself.


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Quite good and certainly very competitive. Traditionally the Senior clubs in the Borders (Hawicjk RA, Gala Fairydean, Vale of Leithen, Selkirk etc) recruited semi-pro players from the Edinburgh area. This is no longer so true but many locals prefer to play Border Amateur Football rather than trekking up to Edinburgh and beyond to play East of Scotland or Lowland League football. Attendances can be quite decent with all the local derbies.


Website

http://bafl.leaguerepublic.com/l/league/144367395.html

Always kept up to date.



Coming next, the Edinburgh and Lothians Amateur League.


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And there was me only this morning thinking just such a thread could be useful.

Cheers man.



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EDINBURGH AND LOTHIANS AMATEUR LEAGUE

Territory
Fairly self explanatory, this League covers the City of Edinburgh and the counties of West Lothian, Midlothian and East Lothian. Recently two Lanarkshire clubs have joined – from Shotts and Forth.

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Amateur football in the Edinburgh and Lothians area is not as strong as in the West of Scotland. The reason for this is the East of Scotland / Lowland League which provides an extra tier of football in the East. Many of the teams in the East of Scotland League are the equivalent of good Amateur teams in the West – I mean the likes of Civil Service Strollers, Craigroyston, Lothian Thistle, Tynecastle, Ormiston, Easthouses etc. Over the years several of the best Amateur League sides in the East have moved on to East of Scotland League football.

The quality of pitches and facilities is also generally poor. Within Edinburgh many teams play on Council Playing Fields where there are multiple pitches (Gyle, Saughton, East Pilton etc). Others play on the numerous artificial pitches that have sprung up as state Secondary Schools have them provided as a standard facility. Many team jump grounds from game to game, especially in mid winter. The better “grounds” tend to be in the smaller towns and villages rather than the city itself.

Structure
The Saturday Section of the Lothians and Edinburgh Amateur League has quite a complex structure of 7 Divisions.

Teams also tend to come and go from year to year. All in all it’s a very “fluid” set up.

At the top are the Premier Division 1 and Premier Division 2. Level Three consists of two parallel Leagues – Lothian East and Lothian West. Level Four has three parallel Leagues – Edinburgh West, Edinburgh Central and Edinburgh East. There is promotion and relegation between all levels but the number of teams dropping out can mean lots of reprieves and surprise promotions. Teams may also change names so it looks like a new club have arrived in a League they shouldn’t be in.

Member Clubs 2013/14

PREMIER DIVISION 1
East Linton – promoted last season, play at Memorial Park, down near Dunbar (nowhere near West Linton). Have been known to issue programmes in the past.
Heriot Vale – seem to be playing at the Broughton HS 3G this season – it’s next to Fettes College near snobby Stockbridge.
Newcraighall Leith Victoria – have quite a nice wee ground at Newcraighall on the south-east edge of Edinburgh. Was once a Junior park. Handy for Newcraighall Railway Station.
Edinburgh Rose – winners of the East of Scotland Cup last season. They play at Edinburgh University’s Sports Fields at Peffermill.
Fernieside – rather confusingly they do not play at Fernieside. They sometimes play on the Drum Park just off Ferniehill Road. It’s quite a pleasant semi-enclosed pitch. For some games they use Peffermill.
Musselburgh Amateurs – play on the Pinkie Playing Fields towards the eastern end of Musselburgh, inland from the Race Course
Sandys – Champions in 2011/12 and 2012/13. Usually played at Saughton 3G, next to Saughton Enclosure but seem to have moved to the Castleview 3G in the depths of Niddrie. Handy to visit if you need to stock up on heroin.
Edinburgh South Vics – often abbreviated to ESV. Usually play at Saughton 3G.
Loanhead Miners Welfare – play at King George V Park in Loanhead, which is near Bonnyrigg, south of Edinburgh. It’s the same park that Junior team Lonahead Mayflower used in the 1950s.
Spartans (3rd Team) – usually play on the second pitch at Ainslie Park.
Tollcross Thistle – another team that usually play at Saughton 3G.

PREMIER DIVISION 2

Penicuik United – play on one of the many pitches in Penicuik Public Park
Barca-Milton 97 – used to play on a decent semi-enclosed pitch at Millerhill Park, south-east of Edinburgh. Now seem to be playing at The Jewel, closer to Edinburgh itself.
Bathgate Thistle Amateurs – play at the Bathgate Sports Centre, usually on astroturf
East Calder United – play at the Public Park in East Calder, south of the Main Street
Lochend – use a council pitch at Bingham Park, which is just off Milton Road, near Duddingston
Mayfield and Easthouses – play on Easthouses Public Park, near Newtongrange
Whitburn Bluebell – play at King George V Park in Whitburn, at the very north of the town
Uphall Station – play at Craigswood Community Centre in Livingston, which was home to Juniors Broxburn Athletic for a year recently when their park was being upgraded
Linlithgow Thistle – go ahead club with an excellent set-up at Kettilstoun Mains, next to Linlithgow Leisure Centre to the west of the town.
Cramond – nice pitch in the Davidson’s Mains Public Park in north-west Embra.
Danderhall MW – play at Danderhall Recreation Ground – on the south-eastern edge of Edinburgh. Not a bad venue.
Edinburgh University Seconds – play at Peffermill on any one of several pitches

LOTHIAN WEST
South GyleAFC – play ay South Gyle Playoing Fields
North Merchiston Vale – use Harrison Park. Quite a pleasant public park in a leafy area.
Victoria Loco – play at Meggetland 3G next to Boroughmuir Rugby Club’s impressive ground.
Lauriston Thistle – play at East Pilton. Beware of junk-crazed loonies.
Blackrodge Vale of Craig – play at Armadale Academy Astro
Dunalba FC – use any available pitch at Peffermill
Links United – use one of the two 3G pitches at Broughton High School
Edinurgh United Alba – play at Colinton Mains, sometimes grass sometimes 3G
Seaforth Highlanders -= play at Campbell Park, an impossible to find former East of Scotland League ground. If going, allow ten minutes longer than you think to locate the place.
Heriot Watt University Seconds – play on one of the pitches at Riccarton Campus.

LOTHIAN EAST
Haddington Athletic Ams – play at Whittinghame Drive 3G, on the east side of Haddington
Tynecastle FC Reserves – share Fernieside Rec with their big team
Lothian Star – use Polwarth Park, close to Harrison Park
Newtongrange Star A – use one of the pitches at the Mayfield Complex
Musselburgh Windsor – play at Whitecraig Sports Centre, to the south of Musselburgh
Pathead – play at Callander Park, a semi-enclosed venue on the road from Dalkeith southwards
Edinburgh Southern – play at the Gyle Playing Fields
Salters Athletic – play at Millerhill, decent ground
Inverleith FC – play at Seafield Playing Fields, nowhere near Inverleith. It's near Portobello.

Scottish Widows – use Kirkbrae, a one-time East of Scotland League venue for Edinburgh City Polis.

EDINBURGH WEST
Armadale Thistle Ams – use Wood Park in the Bathville area of town
Hutchison Vale – play in Saughton Park
Forth Community Ams – play on the back pitch at Kingshill Park, next to Forth Wanderers Junior ground. Recently switched from Lanarkshire Amateurs.
Shotts Victoria – play at Kirk Road, Shotts. Recently switched from Lanarkshire Amateurs.
Queensferry Athletic – play at South Queensferry Leisure Centre
Balerno Athletic – play at Currie
Polbeth United – Limefield Park, Polbeth – quite a reasonable venue
West Lothian Ams – play at Meadow Park, Bathgate, on Glasgow Road
Ratho Ams – use one of the public playing fields at Ratho, near the Airport

EDINBURGH EAST
Edinburgh Academicals – play at Wardie, an insalubrious quarter of town
Dunedin Athletic - use a pitch Drumbrae. Windy.
North Berwick Ams – play in the lovely seaside town of North Berwick.
Musselburgh United – play at Pinkie Playing fields
Pencaitland AFC – play at Park View. Used to be known as Vineyard Park. Recently switched from the Border Amateur League – Pencaitland are a former East of Scotland League club and they used the same ground.
St Bernards – play at Muirhouse, next to Civil Service Strollers but entry off Muirhouse Parkway
Dunbar Athletic – play on an outside pitch at Hallhill, next to Dunbar United’s ground
Whitson Star – play at Wardie
Clermiston Star – play in Clermiston Public Park. Clermiston used to have a fearsome Hearts- minded gang, the Clerry Jungle.
Easthouses FC – play in Easthouses Public Park
Edinburgh University Thirds – Peffermill.

EDINBURGH CENTRAL
Mashucubia FC – play on a ploughed field at Silverknowes, next to the Golf Course
Hermiston Vale – play on Council pitch at Sighthill.
LBG Strollers – use Saughton, sometimes 3G. Have also been known to use Edinburgh Academy’s sports facilities.
Civil Service Strollers Reserves – use one of the pitches at Marine Drive, home of their big team
Cabrera Athletic – play at Saughton, usually 3G
Sporting Icap – don’t know anything about this mob
Standard Life – use one of the pitches at Ainslie Park
Redpath Albion – Pilrig Park, off Leith Walk
Melville Rovers – Saughton Playing Fields
Redhall Star – play in Redhall Park

Cups
The usual mix of all-in Cups for the Association, Divisional Cups as well as mos teams entering the Scottish and East of Scotland Amateur Cups.

Website

Very good:

http://www.leafa.co.uk/

Also covers the Sunday League.



Coming next, the Kingdom of Fife. <![endif]--


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"Sporting Icap – don’t know anything about this mob "

Sporting ICAPB
the Institute of Cell, Animal, & Population Biology at Edinburgh University

Probably the only club in the world with a logo featuring a DNA chain!

http://jagraph.blogspot.co.uk/.../sporting-icapb.html

match reports suggest they use Gyle Playing Fields


Excellent stuff!


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As one of the occasional "dippers" into Scottish Amateur Leagues I think this is absolutely brilliant stuff.

I think you do need to keep stressing the regular switches of venue, although in Edinburgh and Lothians the website usually states the correct one.

To illustrate the point, on a very wet day at the end of last season I saw Dunalba at Foresters High School (3G), handily just down the road from Saughton 3G so a 1300/1500 double with an Edinburgh South Vics game was no problem at all. The Dunalba game was awful but I found the ESV one a lot better and very competitive.


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AMATEUR FOOTBALL IN FIFE

Introduction
Fife has a long tradition of ‘independence’. The county has survived numerous local government re-organisations without having altered boundaries etc.

Territory
Fife Amateur football occasionally allows interlopers to participate in its football. Notably a few teams from the Perth area and also from Clackmannanshire have been involved down the years.

Structure
To understand the current structure of Amateur football in Fife requires a brief history lesson. Traditionally there were two Amateur FAs in Fife – the East Fife Amateurs (covering North and East) and the Kirkcaldy and District (Covering West Fife). There is no South Fife. Around 25 years ago the top teams from the EFAFA and KDAF decided to form a Fife “Super League” – called the Kingdom Caledonian League. The teams involved had more ambition and better facilities than the others. Some years later the EFAFA and the KDFA merged to form the Fife Amateur FA. Now there are two pan-Fife Leagues, the Kingdom Caledonian and the Fife League. There is no relegation / promotion between them. The Kingdom Caledonian is perceived to be of a higher standard although the top teams in the FAFA could certainly match the middle order of the Kingdom Caledonian. Rumours of a merger surface every year but have so far come to naught – too many blazerati with positions to hold on to.

Most Kingdom Caledonian clubs have railed pitches and some sort of pie emporium.

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The top Kingdom Caledonian League clubs are comparable to the lower order Junior clubs. Burntisland Shipyard, a lower order Kingdom Caledonian club, recently jumped to the East of Scotland Seniors where they are holding their own in the lower division.

The Kingdom League is mainly comprised of teams from small towns and large villages dotted around the Kingdom. FAFL has more teams from the major metropolis who play on municipal pitches, although it also has some from nice wee villages.

Member Clubs 2013/14

KINGDOM CALEDONIAN LEAGUE

Lumphinnans United – play on a fully railed park at the bottom of Gagarin Way in Lumphinnans, a village between Cowdenbeath and Lochgelly. Known to one and all as Ylum.
Rosyth Civil Service – play at a multi-pitch venue across Castle Road from Rosyth Juniors. This used to be the location of the original Rosyth Juniors park, no trace of which now remains.
Leven United – play at King George V Park, the former home of Leven Juniors. Another fully-railed venue.
Strathmiglo United – play in the public park in the delightful village of Strathmiglo, between Milnathort and Auchtermuchty.
Cupar Hearts – perceived as the “giants” of the League. Their home ground at Duffus Park is railed and has floodlights. Part of the same complex as the local rugby club, Howe of Fife.
Greig Park Rangers – Greig Park is the name of a public park in the village of Windygates, a few miles inland from Methil.
Kinross Amateurs – outsiders from the hunting / fishing / shooting territory of Kinrosshire. They play on The Myre, a public park in the historic town of Kinross.
Eastvale – have often played in Kirkcaldy but this season they are sharing with Greig Park Rangers at Windygates.
Bowhill Rovers – home ground is Wallsgreen Park in Bowhill, which was once home to Bowhill Juniors. This wee town is a must-visit for football historians to see the grave of John Thomson, the Celtic goalkeeper killed while playing against rangers in 1931.
Benarty – had a year in the Junior sin the late 1990s. Play at the fully-enclosed Dallas Doyle Park in the village of Ballingry. Enter ye here at your peril.
Kettle United – Play in Kettlebridge
Balgonie Scotia 1896 – They’ve been going since 1896 and play at King George V Park in the village of Coaltown of Balgonie, near Thornton.
Blairhall Amateurs – use a park that was formerly home to Blairhall Juniors. Most of the structures have now gone but It has an enclosed feel about it. Midway betwixt Dunfermline and Alloa.
Glenrothes Amateurs – play on the Dovecot Park in the Auchmuty area of town, the original home of Glenrothes Juniors. The ground once held a 5000 all-ticket crowd for a Scottish Junior Cup tie. Ten minutes walk form one of those God-awful Wetherspoons pubs.

FIFE AMATEUR LEAGUE

PREMIER DIVISION
Pittenweem Rovers – play at Recreation Park in Pittenweem
Burntisland United – play at Toll Park in Burntisland, not far from the Shippy’s park
Dysart – play on Windmill Park, a wide open playing field that was home to Kirkcaldy YM Juniors for many years
St Andrews Amateurs – play in Cockshaugh Park in St Andrews, a council pitch
Dalgety Bay Amateurs – play at Dalgety Bay Sports Centre, usually ona windswept grass pitch but occasionally on the Astro
Kirkcaldy YM Amateurs – playing at Lochhead Park in Coaltown of Wemyss this season
Rosebank Rangers - use a desolate council pitch next to the Duloch Leisure Centre on the eastern edge of Dunfermline
Rosyth Amateurs – play on a pitch behind the Rosyth Institute, close to the M90
St Andrews University – one time entrants to the Scottish Cup, St Andrews Uni use the St Leonards Playing Fields in the Ancient City. Sometimes used by Dundee United for Friendly games and youth fixtures. Barcelona once trained there.
Valleyfield Amateurs – St Serfs Park in High Valleyfield is a semi-enclosed council pitch


DIVISION ONE
Kingdom Athletic - usually play on KGV Park in Coaltown of Balgonie, shared with Balgonie Scotia
Leslie Hearts
Hearts of Beath – play at North End Park in Cowdenbeath. This semi enclosed ground was Cowdenbeath’s home ground until they built Central Park.
Glenrothes Strollers
Fossoway – play in Kinross, usually on the far away pitch at The Myre
Auchtermuchty Bellevue – play on Low Road Park on the eastern edge of Muchty. It used to be home to the town’s Junior club.
Lomond United – currently using John Dixon Park in Markinch, former home of Juniors Markinch Victoria Rangers
Fife Thistle – home ground is in Balmullo in North East Fife, it’s called Pitcairn Park
Buckhaven Town – play at Muiredge Park in Buckhaven
Methilhill Strollers – play at Herd Park in Methilhill. If you go, ask them about Mary fae Methilhill.


DIVISION TWO
Kinglassie – play on the old Junior ground in Kinglassie, between Glenrothes and Lochore.
Glenrothes Athletic – play at Carleton Park in Glenrothes
Freuchie Amateurs – the village is more famous for its cricket team with whom they share a ground.
Kirkcaldy Rovers – play on one of the many council pitchesin Ravenscraig Park in the north-east of Kirkcaldy
AM Soccer – new team this season. AM stands for Austin McCann, a former journeyman Scottish League player. He has set up his own ‘Academy’ for budding players and this is a Saturday Amateur team for their adult graduates. Played in the Duffus Park, Cupar. http://www.amsoccerclub.org/index.php
Bayside Amateurs – from Dalgety Bay, but currently playing at the Duloch Leisure Centre in the Dunfermline Eastern Expansion Zone.
Denbeath – hail from a part of Methil called Denbeath, not Cowdenbeath. Play at Savoy Park, formerly home to Savoy Amateurs.
Inverkeithing Hillfield Swifts – play on Jubilee Athletic’s old Junior park at the Ballast Bank. Run numerous age group teams as well.
St Monans Swallows – famous old club that play on Recreation Park in St Monans, a nice wee place in the East Neuk
United Colleges – second team of St Andrews University. Perennially rubbish.

Cups
Both the Kingdom Caledonian and the Fife Amateurs have their own all-in and Divisional Cups. They come together every year for the Fife Champions League, aka the Fife Amateur Cup. Fife teams don’t enter the East of Scotland Amateur Cup.

Websites:

http://www.leaguewebsite.co.uk/...ballassociation/Home


http://www.leaguewebsite.co.uk/kingdomcaledonianafa

Coming next - the Perthshire Amateur FA.


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PERTHSHIRE AMATEUR FOOTBALL

Introduction
The Perthshire Amateur FA has existed in its current format since the 1960s. Prior to that there was a Perthshire Senior League which was also Amateur. Some of the Perthshire Senior Amateur teams had SFA membership and played in the Qualifying Rounds for the Scottish Cup – Vale of Atholl were the last to give up their SFA membership in the 1960s. The winners of the Perthshire Cup used to play off against St Johnstone for place in the Dewar Shield, the “Championship of the Northern Counties” of Scotland. Breadalbane, Grandtully Vale and others played in Dewar Shield preliminaries until the 1960s. As well as the Perthshire Senior Amateur League there was also a Perthshire Amateur League which absorbed the Senior teams in the 1960s.

Territory
Pretty much restricted to the traditional county of Perthshire. Teams from the very south of the county (Dunblane, Callander etc) often played in Stirlingshire competitions, and still do.

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The Perthshire Amateur scene is not particularly strong. The Perth area has several Junior clubs that cream off the best of the talent. The village teams from rural Perthshire tend to be just that – made up of local boys with plenty of enthusiasm.

Structure
Divisions 1, 2 and 3. Simple.

Member Clubs 2013/14

Division 1
Breadalbane – Their name means “Heart of Scotland” and that’s pretty much where Aberfeldy is. Breadalane are a superbly run Community Club. Tried to join the Juniors a couple of years ago but were knocked back on a few issues about their ground.
Ballinluig Edradour – Known as ‘Luig’, the second part of their name comes from the Edradour Distillery, which sponsors the club. Ballinluig is on the A9 between Dunkeld and Pitlochry.
Rattray AFC – Rattray is conjoined with Blairgowrie. The team share the outside pitch at Davie Park with Balmoral United.
Letham – The Letham is a scheme in Perth, not far from McDiarmid Park. Letham AFC is a community club with many teams. The Amateurs play at Seven Acres Park on Newhouse Road in Letham.
Fairfield - another Perth-based side, have been known to play on the pitch next to Kinnoull Juniors park, but also on either of the Inches.

Burrelton Rovers – Burrelton is a wee village between Scone and Coupar Angus. The team has been successful in recent years, winning the North of Tay Cup in 2012. They play on the Recreation Ground in Woodside, which adjoins Burrelton.
Coupar Angus AFC – play at Larghan Park on Forfar Road, Coupar Angus. Not connected with Coupar Angus JFC.
Balmoral United – nothing to do with the royal estate. Balmoral United play in Blairgowrie on the outside pitch at Davie Park, next to the Junior ground, shared with Rattray AFC.
Craigie – Have taken over Fair City Athletic’s old park at Huntongtower this season.
Vale of Earn – Vale come from Crieff and play on Market Park, a former Junior ground of Crieff Earngrove FC. It’s a really good venue.
St Johns AFC – Play on one of the many pitches on the North Inch in Perth town centre.



Division 2
Alyth AFC – Alyth is in north-east Perthshire. It had a Junior team until the early 1980s. Alyth Amateurs play on the same ground – Diamond Jubilee Park – in the centre of the village.
Jeanfield Swifts Amateurs – Swifts are a Community Club with numerous teams for boys, girls, men and women. This is their Saturday Amateur side, second in importance to their Junior side. Play at the Riverside Stadium or one of the adjoining parks in North Muirton.
Auchterarder Primrose –formerly a Junior club, the Primrose play in the public park at the western end of Auchterarder. Back in the day Auchterarder was frequently the location for serious football disorder as it was the stopping off place for Supporters Buses of all clubs as they traversed the country.
Wolfhill – play on a pitch at Hall Road in Guildtown, north east of Perth.
Strathearn Grove – the “other” team in Crieff, they share Market Park with Vale of Earn.
Tay Thistle – Perth team who play on the former home of Jeanfield Swifts, Kinnoull and Perth Celtic – Jeanfield Recreation Ground, aka “The Bowl”.
Bridgeton United – play on the Cricket Pitch at Almondbank, a few miles west of Perth.
Vale of Atholl – Pride of Pitlochry, they have a long and illustrious history. They play in the public park which has a very large and unusual seated area. Worth a visit.
Comrie Rovers – come from Comrie in North West Perthshire, not Comrie in Fife. It’s a picturesque wee village. Famous for its earthquakes and the very large former German POW Cap at Cultybraggan.


Division 3
Luncarty Ams – usually play on the old Junior park, Langlands Park. It's in the housing across the road from the current Junior park.

Methven – play in the village of Methven, just west of Perth.
Perth United – formed from the ashes of Perth Roselea, United play on one of the dozen or so pitches on the South Inch
Bridge of Earn Ams – play on the public park in Bridge of Earn, just south of Perth
Pole Team – team of Polish emigrees, based on the South Inch in Perth
Kettins – plat at Lindsay Park in Kettins, one mile from Coupar Angus. Recently re-formed after a spell in abeyance.
Kinrossie / Caledonian – formed around ten years ago by a merger of Kinrossie AFC and Caledonian AFC (Perth). They play on Recreation Park in Kinrossie which is nothing to do with Kinross. It’s a wee village north-east of Peth.
Glenfarg United – play at Wallace Park in Glenfarg, which is ten miles south of Perth.
Portmoak Amateurs – new team for 2013/14, playing at the Loch Leven Community Campus Astroturf between Kinross and Milnathort.
Meigle Vics - Meigle is closer to Forfar than Perth. They play at Victory Park in Meigle.
Newtyle Hearts – another north-east Perthshire side. Play on a nice week park in Newtyle.
Star of Atholl – from the village of Blair Atholl in North Perthshire. .


Cups

Local Cup competitions are played to a finish, (extra time and penalties), they are:
The Perthshire Cup
Ashleigh Cup
Smith League Cup
Perth & District Cup
West & District Cup
Marshall Cup
There is also the Consolation Cup which is played for by clubs who do not reach the semi final of either the Perthshire or Ashleigh Cups.
The clubs also participate in the Scottish Amateur and North of Tay Cups.

Website

http://perthshireamateur.webs.com/

NEXT WILL BE THE MIDLANDS AFA.


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Excellent work prorege, nothing to add just that this has been most informative. Smile


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Excellent work prorege, nothing to add just that this has been most informative. Smile


Thanks for that - glad somebody reads it!



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Thanks for that - glad somebody reads it!




Rest assured, this thread is being read with great interest.


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I'd just like to reiterate the thanks for this series, I'm finding it quite interesting.

One minor question. Which of the Borders clubs is the one mentioned as being from England? Scanned the list and the league website, but my limited knowledge of the area means I have no real clue where anything is.


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Tweedmouth Amateurs - Tweedmouth is the part of Berwick south of the river.


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Cheers.


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And there was me only this morning thinking just such a thread could be useful.

Cheers man.



Still following with the greatest interest.

I'm particularly fascinated with trying to deduce which Amateurs will likely 'do an East Kilbride', not that there'll be quite that chance again. No, just which clubs might be ambitious enough to step-up into either the Juniors' or Seniors' ranks, and indeed whatever the section between the HFL/LFL and Amateur echelons will be later named, following upon their presumed soon-to-be amalgamation.



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MIDLANDS AMATEUR FA

Introduction
From the groundhopper point of view the Midlands AFA is disappointing. Many clubs play on council playing fields in Dundee. Very few have a ‘ground’ as such. Surprisingly nobody is using East End Park hese days, the former home of Stobswell and Osborne. This was a decent Junior ground in its day, holding crowds of 5000, but I think the changing rooms were torched a few years back and may not have been replaced.

Territory
The Midlands AFA covers the city of Dundee and the county of Angus. However, very few of the ‘inland’ towns and villages participate in Saturday Amateur football, preferring the Forfar and District Sunday League. The vast bulk of teams are from the city of Dundee and Arbroath. Newport-on-Tay , from Fife, also nip over the Bridge to play in this Association.

Standard
The standard is variable. Dundee and Angus are over-provided with Junior clubs who cream off the best of the talent. The top sides stand comparison with some of the weaker Junior sides but in national terms they are way behind the West of Scotland Leagues.

Structure
Three Divisions, premier, One and Two, plus an Alliance League for reserve sides.

Member Clubs 2013/14

Premier Division
St James – Use the old St Josephs Junior ground at Fairfield Park off Happyhillock Road. Beware as you could drive up and down the road for hours and not realise where the entrance is. Check Google maps first. Much of the boundary fencing has been removed but the ground is still better than most.
Arbroath HSFP – Play at the public park in Friockheim. It’s a large village between Arbroath and Forfar although it sounds like it should be in Baden-Wurtemburg.
Invergowrie – Play at Memorial Park in Invergowrie, a large village on the Tay just upstream from Dundee.
Arbroath CSC – Play at Hercules Den on the landward side of Arbroath. Great name for a not too great location. Arbroath FC have planned to build a new stadium there for the past 20 years.
Broughty United – play on a delightful pitch at the Esplanade in Broughty Ferry. Nice wee town to visit with an abundance of good pubs and eateries.
Riverside Athletic – Play on Pitch 1 at Finlathen Park, a Council recreation ground close to the Caird Park Stadium.
NCR – Known to one and all as ‘The Cash’. NCR play at the Caird Park Stadium –an Athletics venue with grandstand etc, just off the Kingsway road which serves as Dundee’s by-pass. In the past some of the homeless Dundee clubs were known to use the Caird Park Stadium for Scottish Junior Cup ties.
Bank Street Athletic – Fintry Park, Pitch 1. Club with a reputation for producing many good players. They play on a Council pitch in the Fintry area of Dundee, where the tourists don’t go.
Tayside Fife Brigade – Charlotte Street (Downfield) Pitch 3. Usually have a good team.
Carnoustie YM – play at Carlogie Park on the outskirts of Carnoustie. This was Carnoustie Panmure’s ground prior to 1949 – it’s just an open playing field.
Dundee College – Use a pitch at the Gardyne Road Campus which is between Dundee and Broughty Ferry.
SS Peter and Paul – Play on pitch 5 at Fairmuir Park, just north of Dundee North End’s ground. The SS is the plural for Saints rather than anything to do with a Steam Ship.

Division One
Merpro – Play in Montrose on a windswept pitch adjacent to Montrose Roselea’s Broomfield Park. Merpro is a oil-related business in the Mo.
FC Claypotts – use either the new artificial pitch or one of the remaining grass pitches at Claypotts Park, next to Broughty Athletic’s ground.
Dundee East – play on a grass pitch at St Saviours HS in Drumgeith Road.
Portcullis AFC – From Arbroath, they play at Victoria Park, Pitch 3.
Newport – Honorary Midlanders from Newport-on-Tay, just over the Bridge in Fife. Newport play at the Waterstone Crook Sports Centre which was home a short-lived Junior team called North Fife in the 1970s.
Monifieth Tayside – used to be a Junior side until the 1950s. Bombed out because they didn’t have an enclosed ground, they still play on the same pitch at Riverview Park.
Barnhill – Play on a pitch at Monifieth HS
Dundee City – Use an artificial pitch St Pauls High School in Gilburn Road, just off the Kingsway.
Logie Harp – Play on Fairmuir Park Pitch 2, just north of North End’s park.
FC Polonia Dundee – Use Drumgeith Pitch 4, adjacent to the pitch used by Dundee East.
Morgan Academy FP – Play at Monymusk Pitch 3 in Dundee’s Huntly Road. Morgan is better known as a rugby-playing school than for football.
Lowson United – play on Lochside Park in Forfar, just across the main road from Forfar West End’s ground.

Division 2
Carnoustie Athletic – play at Carnoustie High School
Douglas Athletic – play on one of the council pitches at Monymusk Park, off the Arbroth Road
Menzieshill Rovers – Play on the 3G pitch at the Dundee International Sports Complex (DISC), just off Mains Road to the north of the city centre in Dundee.
Wellbank AFC – Wellbank is a village a few miles north east of Dundee itself. The football pitch is in the public park at the north of the village.
Kelso AFC – Another team to use the University Playing Fields at Riverside Drive in Dundee. There are seven or eight pitches in the complex.
Harris Academy FP – Eton Street Park in the West End of Dundee is a council pitch, thankfully on its own and not part of a bigger playing fields complex. Harris Academy, along with Morgan Academy, used to be one of the top state schools in Dundee.
Dundee University – University Playing Fields, Riverside Drive. Elmwood Juniors finished up here for a couple of seasons on a roped off pitch before dropping to Amateur football and then oblivion.
Menzieshill AFC –Play at Menzieshill High School in the north-west of the city. Usually play on the grass pitch although they have been known to use the adjoining blaes surface.
Arbroath Harp – play at MacDonald Park in Arbroath, a public park not far from the town centre
Michelin Athletic – Have use of the excellent Michelin Sports Centre on Drumgeith Road. It’s a semi-enclosed venue and one of the better amateur grounds in the area.
Kirriemuir Youth AFC – Play on the Martin Park in Kirriemouir, just over the road from Kirrie Thistle’s ground. It’s a wide open public park.
Edzell Athletic – Very disappointingly Edzell do not play in the eponymous village which is a charming wee place. Instead they play on a council pitch in Brechin Public Park.

Alliance Division (All Reserve Teams)
Broughty United
Logie Harp
Arbroath CSC
Arbroath HSFP ‘A’ – Arbroath HS
Carnoustie YM
Invergowrie
NCR
Tayside Fire Brigade
St James
Dundee College
Barnhill
Portcullis
Arbroath HSFP ‘B’
Arbroath Harp
Morgan Academy FP
Kelso AFC
Monifieth Tayside

Teams in this league usually use the same venue as their first team counterparts, but not always. It started the season as two divisions but the withdrawal of a couple of teams meant they were conflated from September 2013. They will play each other once, then split into two leagues of 9 and 8, playing each other once more to determine Champions.


Cups
Most teams take part in the Scottish Amateur Cup and the North of Tay Cup (Midlands and Perthshire clubs primarily). There are also the usual association-wide and divisional cups.

Website

http://mafa.pitchero.com/


Next up will be the Fit Gang Like Teuchter Aberdeenshire Amateurs.


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<quote>Auchterarder Primrose –formerly a Junior club, the Primrose play in the public park at the western end of Auchterarder. Back in the day Auchterarder was frequently the location for serious football disorder as it was the stopping off place for Supporters Buses of all clubs as they traversed the country. </quote>

Andy Murray played for the Primrose's youth team.


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Great thread, Prorege.

Not wishing to hijack your systematic approach but do you know much about the East of Scotland Churches League? They ran a 2-division structure last season, with 14 clubs [or more accurately a 14-team division which split after 13 games into top 7 + bottom 7 for 6 more games]... but all of last season's ultimate Second Division bar the top pair seen to have left or ceased, along with Broxburn.
http://www.escfa.co.uk/
http://web.archive.org/...http://escfa.org.uk/


It's always been a nice thing that these sort of leagues still operate... the Strathclyde Churches League seems fairly strong with 40 clubs in membership, a fairly elaborate system of cups, website and full-season fixturelist, and a few of their teams enter the Scottish, West and South cups.

Heyday of church football in Scotland seems to have been the interwar period: the Scottish Churches FA was founded in 1926-7? and ceased after 1987-88 when the 8 South Ayrshire Churches League clubs entered mainstream local leagues. Tom 'Tiny' Wharton began his refereeing career in churches football.


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I'll cover the Saturday Morning / Sunday and Welfare Leagues once I've dealt with the Saturday Afternoons.

I played a few games in the Edinburgh Sunday Churches League in the 70s. It was a much poorer standard than the other Amateurs and Welfare.


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ABERDEENSHIRE AMATEUR F.A.

Introduction
From the groundhopping point of view this is not the best of Leagues unless the tick is all that counts. Around half the teams play in Aberdeen itself, mainly on council or school playing fields. Teams from the small towns and villages around Aberdeen are usually more interesting – most play in public parks where they are, at least, the only football pitch. A few teams share facilities with Junior clubs.

Territory
Centred on the city of Aberdeen, this Association extends over a wide area. It reaches south almost as far as Brechin and Montrose. To the north it reaches as far as Huntly and Rothienorman although it does not break into the “Welfare Territory” of Moray and Buchan. Inland from Aberdeen the Grampian Mountains form a natural barrier beyond which settlement stops.

Standard – not very great. This part of Scotland is well-served with Highland League and North Junior League teams who cream off the best of the talent. It is safe to say that players in the Aberdeenshire Amateurs are either not good enough or don’t want to play in what is by far the weakest of the Junior regions. For the population of the area there are a very large number of teams. Several of the best Amateur sides have stepped up to Junior level in recent times – further diminishing the standard.

Structure

The Association has a pyramid structure with a Premier Division, Division One North, Division One East, Division Two North, Division Two East and rather strangely a region-wide Division Three. Presumably if more teams entered the Division Three would be split geographically. However, the North and East distinction appears to be totally ignored in the composition of the Leagues.

Member Clubs 2013/14

Premier Division
Sportsmans Club- Have emerged as a force in recent years, playing at Findon Park which they share with Parkvale Juniors. It’s an unusual venue in the countryside between Portlethen and Cove.
Woodside Play at Uniconn Park, Bridge of Don, which is shared with Hermes Juniors.
Luthermuir – most southerly club in the Association, between Laurencekirk and Edzell. . Their ground off Main Street was once used for Junior football in the days of the old Kincardineshire League.
Cowie Thistle - one of three teams to play in Mineralwell Park in Stonehaven. It’s a large open area to the north of the town, part of which is fenced off to form Glenury Park, home of Stonehaven Juniors. Cowie is a distinct community on the north-eastern fringe of Stonehaven.
MS United - Share New Advocates Park with Aberdeen East End Juniors. It’s adjacent to the Lewis United’s ground and close to Pittodrie.
Hazlehead United- Play on a roped-off pitch at Hazlehead Academy on the western edge of Aberdeen.
Westdyke - play at Lawsondale Playing Fields on the southern edge of Westhill, sharing the facility with Halliburton.
Kincorth- Play at Kincorth Academy. Kincorth is a scheme on the south side of Aberdeen, across the Dee from the city. Quite rough, although the football pitch has a semi-enclosed feel about it.
Cove Thistle- Catto Park is a couple of hundred yards south of Cove Rangers ground. It’s a tight little park, and feels quite enclosed because of the buildings around it.
Beacon Rangers- One of three teams to use Strathburn Park in Inverurie. This is a complex of four pitches, three grass and one artificial. It’s on the north-western side of Inverurie, not too far from Harlaw Park and Colony Park.
Feughside – Farquharson Park in the village of Finzean (pronounced Finyin) is home to Feughside (pronounced Phew-ch-side). Well worth a visit for the wonderful scenery – this is as remote and rural as it gets in Saturday Amateur football.
Insch- Recreation Park, Insch, is a lovely ground on the northern edge of the village. Insch is midway between Inverurie and Huntly and has a railway station. They were a Junior club in comparatively recent times but their ground wouldn’t satisfy the North Region these days.
Blackburn- Blackburn is a village between Aberdeen Airport and Inverurie, by-passed by the A96. Blackburn Pleasure Park is the public park for the village with a single football pitch. Att least its better than some multi-pitch playing fields complex.
Aberdeen University- Keith Park, Hillhead, is an unusual ground. Formerly used by Bon Accord Juniors it is now home to Bridge of Don Thistle. It’s floodlit and has a seated stand. Often referred to as the Hillhead Centre, the “Keith” part of the name comes from Bryan Keith, a businessman who bankrolled Bon Accord and Montrose FC in the early 1990s. Aberdeen University played in the Scottish Qualifying Cup until the mid 1980s but not at this venue.

Division One North
Johnshaven Athletic – play at Wairds Park in Johsnhaven, a great wee place on the coast just north of Montrose. Used to be home to the wonderfully named Johnshaven Dauntless of the Kincardineshire Junior League.
Rothie Rovers- Rothienorman is a village between Inverurie and Turriff. Rothie Rovers have been quite successful in recent years and play on the public park in the village.
Dee Amateurs- Play on a field next to Tullos School in the Torry area of Aberdeen, south of the river Dee. It’s an unremarkable venue in an insalubrious location.
Great Northern Athletic- Use Jamieson Park, the former ground of Lads Club Juniors. Lads Club were a Junior side until a few years ago and the ground is of Junior standard, enclosed and railed. It’s on the northern edge of the Woodside Playing Fields complex in the north of the city.
Alford- Alford Pleasure Park is on the south-west edge of Alford (the “L” is silent, pronounce it Aahfurd). There are three pitches. Trivia addicts may be interested that Alford is the home town of Emile Sande. It’s quite a twee place in West Aberdeenshire.
Turriff Thistle- Play on the 3G pitch at The Haughs, adjacent to Turriff United’s Highland League ground. This is as far north as the Aberdeenshire AFA goes. Locals pronounce the place as “Turra” and are fixated about a coo.
Stoneywood AmateursPlay at Webster Park, Kingswells, which is nowhere near Stoneywood. A wide-open public park, shared with Contiental FC. Kingswells is between Westhill and Aberdeeen.
Tarves- Hillhead Park, Tarves, is in a wee village between Old Meldrum and Methlick, not far from where Formartine United play. It’s pronounced to rhyme with “Jarvis”. One of the best grounds in the area, it is semi-enclosed.
Halliburton – play at Lawsondale Playing Fields on the southern edge of Westhill. Works team of the multi-national oil company of the same name.
Dyce ITC Hydraulics- Use one of the two pitches at Pitmedden Road, Dyce. It’s close to the centre of the village and adjacent to the airport.
Bon Accord City- Use one of the ten pitches at Balgownie on the north side of Aberdeen. One of them is surrounded by a running track. Aberdeen sometime use the ‘running track’ pitch for youth games and often train here.
Glendale – Corbie Park is quite a picturesque venue in rural surroundings next to the River Dee at Maryculter.
Glendale XI- One of several teams to use a pitch at the Sheddocksley Playing Fields. These are unenclosed council pitches situated between Mastrick and Northfield on the western side of Aberdeen. It’s nae braw.

Division One East
AC Mill Inn – one of three teams to play in Mineralwell Park in Stonehaven. It’s a large open area to the north of the town, part of which is fenced off to form Glenury Park, home of Stonehaven Juniors.
Newtonhill – share a public playing field in Newtonhill, about ten miles south of Aberdeen, with a team called Cammachmore. One of those awful commuter settlements that have sprung up around Aberdeen.
Kaimhill United- There are two pitches tucked in behind a Sainsbury’s at Garthdee, the most congested place in Scotland. It’s where the Aberdeen Ring Road crosses the Dee in a bottleneck at its southern end. Kaimhill is the name of the park and United use the grass pitch rather than the adjacent Astro.
Ellon Amateurs – There are half a dozen pitches at The Meadows Sports Centre on the eastern edge of Ellon, which is north of Aberdeen just off the road to Peterhead. One of the pitches is enclosed and used by Ellon United Juniors. The Ammies and Ellon Thistle play on one or other of the outside pitches, one of which is Astro.
Great Western United- Play at the Woodside Sports Complex, usually on the enclosed pitch which they share with Glentanar Juniors. They also use one of the several unenclosed pitches from time to time.
Rattrays XI- Share Heathryfold Park with Sunnybank Juniors. Decent Junior ground but located in a bit of a ghetto.
Northern United- Inverdee is a series of pitches on the southern bank of the River Dee, close to Garthdee and not far from Banks o’ Dee’s ground. Unenclosed and open but quite picturesque.
Bervie Caledonian – play at Booth Park in the nearby village of Gourdon rather than Inverbervie itself. Quite a nice wee park with a cemetery adjoining.
Old Aberdonians - Use one of the ten pitches at Balgownie on the north side of Aberdeen. One of them is surrounded by a running track. Aberdeen sometime use the ‘running track’ pitch for youth games and often train here.
Highland Hotel- Inverdee is a series of pitches on the southern bank of the River Dee, close to Garthdee and not far from Banks o’ Dee’s ground. Unenclosed and open but quite picturesque.
Nicolls Amateurs- Share Denmore Park with Hall Russell Juniors. It’s a typical North Junior ground, located next to Hermes and their Uniconn Park. On the north side of the city.
Don Athletic - Use Westfield Park in Bridge of Don, an area of three council pitches utilised by several teams. Uninspiring, to say the least.
Echt – Echt is a small village west of Aberdeen that barely registers on the map. The football pitch is in Echt Pleasure Park, the local public park.
RGU- RGU stands for Robert Gordons University. This club use the Astro pitch behind Sainsbury’s at Garthdee, next to the pitch used by Kaimhill (see above).

Division Two North
Ellon Thistle- There are half a dozen pitches at The Meadows Sports Centre on the eastern edge of Ellon, which is north of Aberdeen just off the road to Peterhead. One of the pitches is enclosed and used by Ellon United Juniors. The Ammies and Ellon Thistle play on one or other of the outside pitches.
Lads Club Amateurs- Strangely Lads Club don’t use the former Junior park but instead utilise one of the unenclosed plying fields adjacent to it. Lads Club have a great tradition and gave the football world the legend that is Denis Law.
Granite City- Potterton is a wee village a few miles north of Bridge of Don. The football park is not enclosed or railed but it has quite a nice feel about it. Shared with Bankhead FC.
FC Polska - Inverdee is a series of pitches on the southern bank of the River Dee, close to Garthdee and not far from Banks o’ Dee’s ground. Unenclosed and open but quite picturesque.
Torry Select- Inverdee is a series of pitches on the southern bank of the River Dee, close to Garthdee and not far from Banks o’ Dee’s ground. Unenclosed and open but quite picturesque.
Stonehaven Athletic - one of three teams to play in Mineralwell Park in Stonehaven. It’s a large open area to the north of the town, part of which is fenced off to form Glenury Park, home of Stonehaven Juniors.
St Laurence – play at Memorial Park in Laurencekirk, another one-time location for Kincardineshire Junior League football. One of the most southerly clubs – why they are in the North Division defeats me.
Torphins – play on the pitch in Torphins Pleasure in the West Aberdeenshire village of the same name. It’s just a public park.
Cammachmore – share the playing field in Newtonhill with the team of the same name. Not a very enticing venue.
Newburgh Thistle- Newburgh is as far north-east as this league goes, well on towards Peterhead. Gallowhill Park is south-east of the village, next to the golf course, and not where shown on the AAFA website. Not a bad wee venue.
Continental- Play at Webster Park, Kingswells, which is nowhere near Stoneywood. A wide-open public park, shared with Stoneywood. Kingswells is between Westhill and Aberdeeen.
Banchory Amateurs – play at King George V Park in Banchory. For such a nice town the park is a soulless sort of place on the southern edge, close to the River Dee.
Torry United- Play on a field next to Tullos School in the Torry area of Aberdeen, south of the river Dee. It’s an unremarkable venue in an insalubrious location.
Scotstown Rovers- One of four teams to play at Hazlehead, a multi-pitch council venue on the west of the city. Close to, but bot the same as, Hazlehead Academy.

Division Two East
Summerhill- One of several teams to use a pitch at the Sheddocksley Playing Fields. These are unenclosed council pitches situated between Mastrick and Northfield on the western side of Aberdeen.
Bankhead- Share the village park in Potterton with Granire City FC. It’s a few miles north of Bridge of Don.
Burghmuir- One of three teams to use Strathburn Park in Inverurie. This is a complex of four pitches, three grass and one artificial. It’s on the north-western side of Inverurie, not too far from Harlaw Park and Colony Park.
JS XI- One of four teams to play at Hazlehead, a multi-pitch council venue on the west of the city. Close to, but bot the same as, Hazlehead Academy.
West End- Play on a roped-off pitch at Hazlehead Academy on the western edge of Aberdeen.
Kemnay Youth- Bogbeth Park in Kemnay is used for football and cricket. It’s a basic public park in a nice little town, just off the A96 on the way to Inverurie.
Glentanar Reflex- One of four teams to play at Hazlehead, a multi-pitch council venue on the west of the city. Close to, but bot the same as, Hazlehead Academy.
Aberdeen Grammar School FPs- Aberdeen Grammar School is just a state comprehensive these days although it used to be elitist. Their playing fields at Rubislaw accommodate football, rugby and other sports. This is one of the closest grounds to Aberdeen City Centre. The football pitch used can vary – the enclosed part is reserved for the rugger chaps.
Kintore- Kintore is a sizeable large village / small town just off the A96 on the road to Inverness. The football pitch is in Kintore Pleasure Park, a standard public park with minimal facilities.
Ferryhill - Beach Park, Balmedie, shared with Trophies International (see just below)
Byron- use the old Lads Club Junior Park at Jamieson Park, Woodside.
Trophies International- Beach Park, Balmedie, is an interesting venue as it is hewn from the sand dunes between the village and the sea. Balmedie is also home to the golf course built by American blaw Donald Trump who now thinks because he’s got money he now owns Scotland.
University Colts- Use one of the ten pitches at Balgownie on the north side of Aberdeen. One of them is surrounded by a running track. Aberdeen sometime use the ‘running track’ pitch for youth games and often train here.
University Strollers- Another tenant of the Balgownie Playing Fields.

Division Three
Theologians- One of four teams to play at Hazlehead, a multi-pitch council venue on the west of the city. Close to, but not the same as, Hazlehead Academy.
Glendale Youth- Use one of the open pitches at the Lads Club Playing Fields, Woodside.
BSFC- Yet another team to play at Balgownie Playing Fields.
Westhill – play at Westdyke Leisure Centre in Westhill, a truly awful commuter settlement for the nouveau riche created by the oil industry.
Fintray Thistle - One of three teams to use Strathburn Park in Inverurie. This is a complex of four pitches, three grass and one artificial. It’s on the north-western side of Inverurie, not too far from Harlaw Park and Colony Park.
Huntly Amateurs- There is an artificial pitch and several grass pitches at The Meadows, Huntly. I believe that this club often uses the artificial surface as the others are invariably waterlogged. Huntly is as far north-west as this League extends.
Postal ALC- Another to make use of one of the pitches at the Lads Club, Woodside.
ARI ThistleOne of several clubs to use Inverdee, a series of pitches on the southern bank of the River Dee, close to Garthdee and not far from Banks o’ Dee’s ground. Unenclosed and open but quite picturesque. ARI is Aberdeen Royal Infirmary.
Bridge of Don- Use Westfield Park in Bridge of Don, an area of three council pitches utilised by several teams. Uninspiring, to say the least.
AFC Murdos - One of several teams to use a pitch at the Sheddocksley Playing Fields. These are unenclosed council pitches situated between Mastrick and Northfield on the western side of Aberdeen.
Formartine UnitedOld Meldrum Pleasure Park is home to the Amateur section of Highland League Formartine. If they keep spending money like they are then they’ll soon be in the Champions League. Old Meldrum is a very pleasant village and worth a visit.
Auchnagatt BaronsA wonderful venue in the little village of Auchnagatt on the edge of Buchan to the west of Peterhead. It feels like an enclosed park – just to the east of the village. Even people from rural Aberdeenshire think Auchnagatt is the end of the world.
MonymuskMonumusk is a fine example of a planned village. Deer Park, the football ground, is very pleasant and is located on the northern edge of the village. One of the nice rural grounds.
McTeagle - One of several teams to use a pitch at the Sheddocksley Playing Fields. These are unenclosed council pitches situated between Mastrick and Northfield on the western side of Aberdeen.
Aboyne – play on The Green in the centre of Aboyne, a lovely wee place in West Aberdeenshire. The pitch is just an open park.
RAM- Westfield Park in Bridge of Don, an area of three council pitches utilised by several teams. Uninspiring, to say the least.

Cups
Most teams enter the North of Scotland Amateur Cup and most also participate in the Scottish Amateur Cup which is regionalised in its early rounds. Over and above that there are 14 Association Cups including the usual Divisional and pan-association competitions. The website is very helpful in detailing these.

Website

Superb website at:

http://www.aberdeenshireafa.com/

Next up it's back towards civilisation with the Stirlingshire Amateurs.


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Another great post prorege. A few comments to add regarding the Aberdeenshire Amateurs FA (my bread and butter local fare when unable to travel too far from home).

The only floodlit venues are the Garthdee caged astroturf in the Asda car park (RGU), Uniconn Park (Woodside at Hermes Juniors) and Keith Park (University). Midweek lit fixtures do occasionally occur. Keith Park is the neutral venue of choice for end of season showpiece cup finals.
Planning permission was granted over a year ago for New Advocates Park (MS United at East End Juniors) to go plastic and electric, but work hasn't started.

Those clubs who play on school or university controlled venues play elsewhere during academic holidays, usually at the multi-pitch council venues of Inverdee, Sheddocksley, or Hazlehead. Same thing for pitch-sharers if both have home cup ties to fulfill / the Junior side is using it.
University join Colts and Strollers in playing at Balgownie whenever Keith Park is unavailable to them.

The fixture announcements that come out on Mondays for the following Saturday's games helpfully list each match's venue. But note that those lists very often get amended later in the week, so do check again nearer the time. In inclement weather, changed venues can be rustled up on matchday morning, without any update being made to the website, so I have been caught out a few times / have found extra games going on that I hadn't expected to be moved to the complex where I was going for a different match.

Given the hammering that the council pitches get, they are rather conservative at closing (some of) them when it's really wet. Which has been known to happen in Aberdeen. There's an automated message left on the council pitches hotline 01224 655485.

Before the light goes, and when it returns, three matchdays per week are squeezed in - Saturdays + Mondays + Wednesdays.

There's a fair turnover of clubs resigning, new ones being formed each summer, existing ones changing name and existing ones changing venue.
Clubs folding during the season are replaced by an additional promotion, rather than by one less relegation.

Goal difference is reported in league tables but is never taken into account. After points, the next criteria is number of games won. There are often one-off playoff games at a neutral venue to separate equal-finishers for promotion / relegation issues.
There can sometimes be a huge number of clubs promoted from Div 3 - more than half the division !

One correction : Lads Club Amateurs don't even use any of the pitches at Lads Club / Jamieson Park (the west end of the Woodside complex) despite the changing room block at that end still bearing the original Lads Club name and the open pitch still being known by that name. They are another of the many who play their home fixtures at the 16-pitch Hazlehead council facility.

None of the four users of Lads Club open pitch (Glendale Youth, Postal ALC) or Jamieson Park enclosed pitch alongside (Byron, Great Northern Athletic) have been able to play there yet this season. Aberdeen is plagued by "travellers" playing cat and mouse with the authorities, leaving a right mess behind them whenever they are eventually legally evicted from one site, only to move on to be a nuisance nearby. Sports fields are a favourite. They've been on Balgownie, Aulton (no longer in use as an AAFA venue) and this summer invaded Lads Club. After home games instead being played at the various council venues at the start of the season, now that the school holidays are over a new-to-the-AAFA venue of Northfield Academy is being used until Lads Club is fully fumigated. I've not been to do Northfield yet so am unsure whether that's grass or astro.
The invasion did not stretch to the eastern end of Woodside, so the enclosed pitch of Glentanar Juniors that Great Western United use has been unaffected.

Note also that Torphins often use Kincardine O'Neill (by the main road at the western edge of that village) as well as Torphins Pleasure Park.


Thanks again prorege, I'm already looking forward to your next chapter.


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I've noticedthat the FAFA site


http://www.leaguewebsite.co.uk/...ballassociation/Home

seems to be off-line; do you have an alternative?

Regarding Echt in the Aberdeenshire Amateurs, they are playing on the same pitch as the ex-eponymous Junior team fom the eighties. The only British football team to have been mentioned twice in a Dutch advert of course.

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This is great info. prorege. Very interesting indeed.

Do you have any data or inklings yet on any amateurs thinking about stepping-up into Juniors or Seniors ranks?



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This is great info. prorege. Very interesting indeed.

Do you have any data or inklings yet on any amateurs thinking about stepping-up into Juniors or Seniors ranks?



I think it would be better if this thread stuck to info useful for ground hoppers rather than pointless speculation.

Mind you if anyone was drastic enough to suggest a Celtic League I'm sure Auchnagatt Barons would be up for it.


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Regarding Echt in the Aberdeenshire Amateurs, they are playing on the same pitch as the ex-eponymous Junior team fom the eighties.

I think you are getting Echt confused with Insch.


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I had intended to look at the Stirlingshire Amateurs next but because of the hierarchy of leagues in West Central Scotland it would make more sense to try and explain that first.

The historic counties of Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire, Renfrewshire, Ayrshire and the City of Glasgow make up more than half of the population of Scotland. Historically there have been ‘local’ amateur leagues in most of these areas but there has also been an unofficial hierarchy of leagues.

From the 1930s through to the 1950s the Scottish Amateur League was pre-eminent. Those strange teams that used to play in the Scottish Cup and local Senior Cups – Babcock and Wilcox, Shawfield Amateurs, Falkirk Amateurs, Glasgow University, Glasgow Corporation Transport etc – were mainly members of this League. However, it’s importance declined in the 1960s and now it is largely a League for clubs from Glasgow, Renfrewshire and Argyllshire, including far-flung outposts such as Oban and Campbeltown. When the Campbeltown Junior League folded around 1960 its remaining members joined the SAL.

In the 1970s there was no real pre-eminent Amateur League in West Central Scotland. In the early 1980s some of the more ambitious clubs from different leagues got together and formed the Caledonian Amateur League. This was aimed at clubs with a decent level of facilities and a stable structure. Initially it included some of the leading clubs from Edinburgh as well. Shortly afterwards the Central Scottish Amateur League was formed – initially with less emphasis on facilities and more on playing standards. It too attracted a few East-based sides.

Today these two Leagues, the Caledonian League and the Central Scottish League are the highest standard of Amateur football in Scotland. The Central is probably stronger than the Caledonian at the moment. The East-based teams have all dropped out – the good Amateur teams in the East have joined the East of Scotland Senior League. In many respects the Central Scottish and the Caledonian League are the West’s equivalent of the East of Scotland Senior clubs – but they don’t have SFA membership and therefore don’t get the publicity or the funding from appearing in the Scottish Cup.

There is no formal relationship between any of the various Amateur Leagues. The Caledonian and Central Scottish have no automatic promotion / relegation from any other Leagues but consider applications from clubs in other leagues. Below them there are leagues in Stirlingshire, Renfrewshire, Lanarkshire and Ayrshire which retain a strong geographic focus. In the City of Glasgow, Renfrewshire and Dunbartonshire the situation is more “fudged”. The Scottish Amateur League, Greater Glasgow Premier League and the West of Scotland Amateur League are more difficult to define. There are also several Saturday Morning Leagues which I shall eventually get round to covering.

So, next will be the Caledonian Amateur League. Watch this space.

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