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sheffgeoff
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Apologies if a thread has already been started on this topic. Did I hear right on Sky this morning? Celtic in talks to join the English League 1? Much as I would love to see Colchester play at Parkhead surely that can't be right .......but then again Swansea and Cardiff already play in England and Berwick play in Scotland.


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Replacing Portsmouth ??


Then Gers can reform in Lge 2 replacing Vale ???


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Apologies if a thread has already been started on this topic. Did I hear right on Sky this morning? Celtic in talks to join the English League 1? Much as I would love to see Colchester play at Parkhead surely that can't be right .......but then again Swansea and Cardiff already play in England and Berwick play in Scotland.


Swansea and Cardiff(and Newport, Wrexham and a few others) have always played in England, Berwick always in Scotland...The Old Firm have no history in England...

I personally hope it is nonsense, there is no need for them down here and we are better off without them!!!!!



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can just see celtic v newcastle united in the carling cup, Smile



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If they want to start in the English pyramid then start them in the Northern League, why should clubs throughout the pyramid miss out on promotion to accomodate Celtic (Or Rangers for that matter). Talk is that to make room in League One only 3 clubs promoted from League 2, It is all a nonsence generated by greed. Mad



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Not according to multiple media sources they're not

Daily Record

Goal.com

and The Independent



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If they want to start in the English pyramid then start them in the Northern League, why should clubs throughout the pyramid miss out on promotion to accomodate Celtic (Or Rangers for that matter). Talk is that to make room in League One only 3 clubs promoted from League 2, It is all a nonsence generated by greed. Mad


Sod that, there is the Northern Alliance below that and the North Northumberland League below that at Steps 10&11, make them start there if they really want to come to England...it is only fair and right...

Nothing surprises anymore and it would not surprise me to see the Old Firm down here soon



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While Rangers are distracted by their financial woes, it looks like the SPL is moving in to curtail the power and influence of the Old Firm, leaving Celtic somewhat isolated. On BBC Sport yesterday:


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Celtic will fight the 10 non-Old Firm clubs' efforts to change the Scottish Premier League voting structure.

Chief executive Peter Lawwell has described as "disrespectful" the secret meetings of the 10.

They are trying to change from 11-1 to 9-3 the structure which they see as creating a Rangers-Celtic stranglehold.

And it is believed that Lawwell has the backing of the Ibrox administrators and at least some of the potential new owners of the troubled Govan club.

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Celtic are adamant that the current voting structure will stay because Rangers will stand shoulder to shoulder with them, alongside Sky Television whose new contract with the SPL has not yet actually been signed off.

As things stand, the SPL's Articles of Association state that 66% of clubs (eight) must agree for an ordinary resolution to be passed.

To pass a special qualified resolution, such as for the expansion or reduction of SPL members, 83% of clubs must agree. That represents a 10-2 split.

“Not being invited to the meetings of the other 10 clubs is disappointing and disrespectful, given what Celtic and Rangers bring to the game”

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However, to pass a qualified resolution, 90% of clubs (11) must be in agreement, which means Rangers and Celtic voting the same way scuppers any change.

A qualified resolution is required for what is being proposed by the 10 non-Old Firm clubs: they want a simplified 9-3 voting structure for all matters.

An angry Celtic chief pledged to take no immediate action against the other clubs but is warning against "legal, commercial and practical remedies to this situation for us".

Lawwell went on: "It is divisive and of concern to every Scottish football supporter at this very difficult time for our game. We could all do without it.

"We are not against protecting the lower clubs.

"We were part of the strategic group that committed to changing the funding for the First Division and also when asked our opinion about the size of the league we said we would be happy to accommodate a league of 14.

"We started with a 10-club idea - 36 games - because that gave us a late start and preparation time.

"But then we - Martin Bain of Rangers and I - were convinced of a 14, in a 6-8 split which also gives us 36 games and the bottom eight 40 games, which is more money for them.

"We also support the idea of play-offs and a pyramid system and parachute payments.

"And then we were persuaded to go back to a 10 for the greater good of others.

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"Not being invited to the meetings of the other 10 clubs is disappointing and disrespectful, given what Celtic and Rangers bring to the game, having spent nearly two years and a lot of time on developing a strategy.

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By all means, allow them to join the pyramid, but Scotland should lose it's national team status as well and have all of the teams merge in, perhaps create a Conference Scotland with the scots teams battling for promotion to League 2? The only country in Europe that doesn't have a national league is Liechtenstien, not sure the scots want to be compared to them. Swansea/Cardiff is different as they exisited in England before a Welsh National league was created. The only problem with that argument is that the reformed Merthyr team should have been forced into the Welsh system.

Can almost see Alex Salmond breaking into sweat at the thought of this!


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You have to consider the politics of the situation. The four home associations have half the votes in FIFA's control of the Laws of the Game. If these Home FAs were to become a UKFA then then the birthplace of football could be outvoted to the detriment of the game as we know it. Perhaps this may be a good thing for the likes of Sepp Blatter to gain more influence to mould the game in a different way to how we in the UK perceive it?



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You have to consider the politics of the situation. The four home associations have half the votes in FIFA's control of the Laws of the Game. If these Home FAs were to become a UKFA then then the birthplace of football could be outvoted to the detriment of the game as we know it. Perhaps this may be a good thing for the likes of Sepp Blatter to gain more influence to mould the game in a different way to how we in the UK perceive it?



What sort of nonsense is that statement ?

I understand this arrangement is to change and rightly so. It's hardly benefitted any of the home nations if judged by results on the field so surely a change would be beneficial?

It isn't a UK game and, difficult as it might be for some to stomach, not that many countries give a stuff about what goes on in our little parochial world where club competitions (outside of the CL) are looked down on as being somehow inferior to the "proper" game we produce here. In the last week I've heard pundits witter on about the "inferior" clubs that Papiss Demba Cisse has garnered his goals against before becoming a surprise success in his early appearances for Newcastle and that pillock Robbie Savage blather on about Portugal's league only having 2 clubs worthy of the mention as he lambasted Citeh for not seeing off Sporting Clube with their eyes shut. Maybe Braga's run to the EL final last year eluded him and all the other dimwits who failed to notice how many co-efficient points Portugal gained last year.

Ot maybe you believe the Beeb bollocks about the whole of the rest of the world envying our FA Cup and all tuning into the final every year. Complete tosh. It's exactly the same attitude which saw the World Cup and European Cup boycotted by England when they were conceived. Good moves! Open up and learn...........


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Sorry can't help being a "Little Englander" or whatever the British equivalent is in this context. Although I do find myself having a split personality, being a supporter of the EU having lived in France for many years and having many European friends, so maybe i'm not all bad. Or perhaps I am?



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You have to consider the politics of the situation. The four home associations have half the votes in FIFA's control of the Laws of the Game.



This is what need changing. There is no reason that our little islands can have the same number of votes on this forum than the rest of the world put together.


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If sticking to an eight man committee, and that is certainly the largest number for something such as rules revision, then the main thing is to prevent it from becoming a device for placemen to make decisions.
Still, if each of the six confederations, plus FIFA each nominated a single representative this should prevent this from becoming a Blatter tool. The eight member should still be from the FA, to recognise that they drew up the original laws. Six votes should be required to change the laws.



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