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Mister TwoU
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Oct 30, 2013, 8:46 PM

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Er...RLC is a completely summer tournament, has been for a couple of seasons, after a transitional short season. RLC3 was the initial summer division on a national basis, before the rest converted over. Last summer, the RLC3 teams had to apply either to the southern conference or for re-election - Bramley being denied a place and I think Kippax just decided to drop back into Yorkshire leagues. Huddersfield Underbank and Coventry Bears were successful reapplicants, along with Warrington Wizards merged team with Woolston - all 3 having been towards the top. Generally the weaker sides joined the Southern conference.


I did mention that I find it all a bit confusing! Blush

You seem well informed. Could you possibly give a layman's rundown of who, what, why, etc. to an interested party yet to earn 'layman's wings'?



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Er...RLC is a completely summer tournament, has been for a couple of seasons, after a transitional short season. RLC3 was the initial summer division on a national basis, before the rest converted over. Last summer, the RLC3 teams had to apply either to the southern conference or for re-election - Bramley being denied a place and I think Kippax just decided to drop back into Yorkshire leagues. Huddersfield Underbank and Coventry Bears were successful reapplicants, along with Warrington Wizards merged team with Woolston - all 3 having been towards the top. Generally the weaker sides joined the Southern conference.


I did mention that I find it all a bit confusing! Blush

You seem well informed. Could you possibly give a layman's rundown of who, what, why, etc. to an interested party yet to earn 'layman's wings'?


I've been following RL for over 35 years and I'm still confused at times!

The basic key to all this is that the RFL wanted as many as possible to come under their banner and play in the Summer, as opposed to the old school amateur leagues run by BARLA (British Amateur Rugby League Assn) who wanted to stay winter based.

At the top level of BARLA was the National Conference set up (3 Divs) which on the whole had the best "non league sides" outside of Super League, Championship and Championship 1. The RFL had been running it's own National Summer structure, based on National League 3 plus the Summer Conference, but the harsh truth was that most of these teams were light years behind the "Winter" Conference Clubs in almost every way. Beneath the Winter Conference were all the BARLA regional leagues, North West Counties, Pennine, Yorkshire, Hull & Dist etc whih again, on the whole were much better set ups than most of the clubs playing in the "Summer" Conference.

The difficulty was a) to get all the clubs to switch to summer and b) to find a structure that avoided gross mismatches in terms of playing strength and ability.

Most of the "Winter" Conf clubs have moved over to Summer and the Conference League is now a fine league with some real quality on show in the top 3 divisions. There is then the old RL3/Summer Conference National Division which sits (rightly) underneath these three divisions. New Regional Leagues then sit below these whilst there are still a handful of leagues with small constitutions playing the game in the winter (North West Counties and Pennine being the main leagues I think).

Hope that helps a little!


oftenscore6
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Championship One has 9 clubs for this season: Hunslet, York, Oldham, Oxford, Gloucestershire All Golds, Gateshead, Hemel Stags, London Skolars and South Wales.

Coventry Bears are remaining in RLC3. Only off-season change in RLC was Bradford Dudley Hill were fined and relegated for failing to fulfil a fixture, reprieving Saddleworth Rangers IN RLC1. No new entrants are or leavers from RLC overall.



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jrev61
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Jan 27, 2014, 9:33 PM

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Championship One has 9 clubs for this season: Hunslet, York, Oldham, Oxford, Gloucestershire All Golds, Gateshead, Hemel Stags, London Skolars and South Wales.

Coventry Bears are remaining in RLC3. Only off-season change in RLC was Bradford Dudley Hill were fined and relegated for failing to fulfil a fixture, reprieving Saddleworth Rangers IN RLC1. No new entrants are or leavers from RLC overall.

Crossfields failed to fulfil a fixture at Coventry, although they did turn up for the re-arranged game. Why weren't they relegated from the league?Also the league are a team short due to the resignation of Widnes West Bank so it seems odd that there are no new teams, especially as Widnes St. Maries Vikings won the North West Counties League. Maybe they are not regarded as a 'first team'.




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Mike S
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Jan 27, 2014, 10:18 PM

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Bradford Dudley Hill were relegated a division which is standard for non fulfilling a fixture but Crosfields were already in the lower division so their punishment would be to have to apply for reelection

There is no promotion and relegation to other leagues, a club has to apply and to have any chance need to run an A team, have a railed off pitch and youth sides. For groundhoppers it should be noted clubs must do a programme. The consequence is that the clubs in the third division are lower standard on the field than those in the leagues below and new clubs ie Pilkington and Kells do well in thier first and often subsequent seasons

Widnes St Maries were members but were either expelled or the main club went bankrupt during a season. Pulling out mid season is one of the ultimate crimes and clubs that leave in this way struggle to get back. Hunslet Warriors managed after being rejected a few years running. I doubt there is a youth set up any more at St Maries as their ground has been demolished and is just waste land. It is visible from the railway next to the RU ground between Hough Green and Widnes stations and they now play on the 3 o 4g surface at Widnes RL

Their may be new teams in the southern conference which is of equal status to division 3 in theory but in reality neither on or off the pitch. Northampton appear to have left and a couple of clubs including Valley Cougars are possibly joining. The season for this division will not start until April


Feversham Lens
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Jan 27, 2014, 10:18 PM

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Championship One has 9 clubs for this season: Hunslet, York, Oldham, Oxford, Gloucestershire All Golds, Gateshead, Hemel Stags, London Skolars and South Wales.

Coventry Bears are remaining in RLC3. Only off-season change in RLC was Bradford Dudley Hill were fined and relegated for failing to fulfil a fixture, reprieving Saddleworth Rangers IN RLC1. No new entrants are or leavers from RLC overall.

Crossfields failed to fulfil a fixture at Coventry, although they did turn up for the re-arranged game. Why weren't they relegated from the league?Also the league are a team short due to the resignation of Widnes West Bank so it seems odd that there are no new teams, especially as Widnes St. Maries Vikings won the North West Counties League. Maybe they are not regarded as a 'first team'.


I think Hunslet Old Boys were the only club to apply to join the NCL for 2014. They later withdrew their application because they didn't feel ready, in terms of finance and facilities, to make the step-up from the Pennine League. There were rumours that Thornhill Trojans (former NCL members) and Drighlington were going to apply but the talk clearly proved simply to be talk. As for Crosfields, I guess the NCL didn't see the point of kicking them out for one infringement when, thanks to Widnes West Bank failing to finish 2013, they were already a team short. Did Widnes St Marie's apply? Not sure they did. I seem to remember St Marie's being kicked out of the NCL last time they were members owing to a disciplinary issue.


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Feversham Lens
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Jan 27, 2014, 10:27 PM

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For groundhoppers it should be noted clubs must do a programme.

Have Ovenden got the message yet?! They seem to be determined non-issuers.


jrev61
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Jan 28, 2014, 5:22 PM

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For groundhoppers it should be noted clubs must do a programme.

Have Ovenden got the message yet?! They seem to be determined non-issuers.

Some clubs don't issue for cup ties including early rounds of the Challenge Cup.



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