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007Dale
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The swath of polls released for the Sunday papers seem to indicate little has changed after the first week of campaigning;
YouGov - Tory Lead 13% (+2%)
DeltaPoll - Tory Lead 12% (0%)
Opinium - Tory Lead 12% (-4%)
Panelbase - Tory Lead 10% (-1%)
I’ve shown all the polls published from the 8th November, rather than pick and choose ones to suit a message.
What’s interesting is the polls are converging towards the same sort of lead for the Tories, where before they had wildly different results.
Also worth noting that support for the main two parties solidified at the expense of smaller parties, with Brexit party in particular taking a hit this week.
Plenty of time to go yet...
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Towlawtom
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Agree with you 007 Dale.
Plenty of time for more Gaffes and lies for Johnson to be exposed and more time for the electorate to see him for what he is!
I need to have the last word, as it always looks as if I am right !
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Towlawtom
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It still amazes me how he got off lightly by not Delivering brexit on 31st October .He never said we only be leaving on 31st October if the opposition parties or his brexit opponents were to fall in line with him, did he?
We will leave 31st October Do or die he said!
I need to have the last word, as it always looks as if I am right !
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Towlawtom
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If that does represent the outlook of the electorate then I would imagine it's because they are not prepared to sign up to a Socialist UK under Labour that would bankrupt the country with their £1.2trillion spending plans and their proposals to throw the borders wide open to all and sundry.[/reply
The 1.2 trillion is fake news given by Kwasi Kwarteng. What an idiot he looked this morning! It was a 35 page dossier cooked up by Tory researchers and then fed to the right wing media. The CONservative party can't give a figure on their overspending plans when pressed on the matter.
When Kwarteng was asked on Tory spending plans he Quoted "I'm not going to bandy round figures" Oh the irony!
I need to have the last word, as it always looks as if I am right !
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PaulC
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Yatesman
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If that does represent the outlook of the electorate then I would imagine it's because they are not prepared to sign up to a Socialist UK under Labour that would bankrupt the country with their £1.2trillion spending plans and their proposals to throw the borders wide open to all and sundry. It's incredible how some people just swallow Tory propaganda without without the least bit of questioning. Yet the Tories have increased the National Debt by nearly £1 trillion in the past decade ... and to what purpose? This is hilarious!! Kwarteng asked how much the Tories are going to spend by Sophy Ridge: "I'm not going to bandy around figures" Car crash TV. Yet there are people in our midst who actually believe and even quoe what he says. Is it any wonder there is a majority for Brexit when there are such credulous voters. You have to hand it to the Tories though - they know how to get the unthinking masses to vote against their own interests. https://twitter.com/...462767866580992?s=20
So you agree Tory Austerity policies were warranted and should have been harsher ?
That's a bit of a u-turn for you.
Are you also saying that Labour's spending has no net cost for the country?
Amazing!
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Towlawtom
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It still amazes me how he got off lightly by not Delivering brexit on 31st October .He never said we only be leaving on 31st October if the opposition parties or his brexit opponents were to fall in line with him, did he?
We will leave 31st October Do or die he said! This post just shows how out of touch you are and how your thinking is tainted by your extremism. There isn't a single Leave voter who will hold it against Boris that we didn't Leave the EU on Oct 31. Not one. Not leaving on Oct 31 will win the Tories this election!!
So he wasn't lying to you then when he said We would leave 31st October, Do or Die!
I need to have the last word, as it always looks as if I am right !
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PaulC
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It still amazes me how he got off lightly by not Delivering brexit on 31st October .He never said we only be leaving on 31st October if the opposition parties or his brexit opponents were to fall in line with him, did he?
We will leave 31st October Do or die he said! This post just shows how out of touch you are and how your thinking is tainted by your extremism. There isn't a single Leave voter who will hold it against Boris that we didn't Leave the EU on Oct 31. Not one. Not leaving on Oct 31 will win the Tories this election!! So he wasn't lying to you then when he said We would leave 31st October, Do or Die!
Tory voters really have passed through the looking glass.
https://twitter.com/...439882842169346?s=21
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Yatesman
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It still amazes me how he got off lightly by not Delivering brexit on 31st October .He never said we only be leaving on 31st October if the opposition parties or his brexit opponents were to fall in line with him, did he?
We will leave 31st October Do or die he said! This post just shows how out of touch you are and how your thinking is tainted by your extremism. There isn't a single Leave voter who will hold it against Boris that we didn't Leave the EU on Oct 31. Not one. Not leaving on Oct 31 will win the Tories this election!! So he wasn't lying to you then when he said We would leave 31st October, Do or Die!
No.
How can you lie about future events?
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leohoenig
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Of course one can lie about future events.
I can say, for example, that "I need new shoes, I will buy them tomorrow". I know that the shop will be closed tomorrow as its a public holiday- so that would be a lie.
For clarity,"I need new shoes" is not a lie. I actually went into a shop last week, but did not see any that I liked and were in the correct size. I may well have to wait until I get back to England.
Fat AND Pompous.
The proof that you can have too much of a good thing
Now blogging at http://www.leohoenig.com
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Yatesman
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How can you lie about future events? By promising to do something on a stated date in the future and not doing so. Jeez!
Total Bollox..........as explained to leohoenig
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In my case, as a Remainer and Lib Dem, it would seem I'd have an easy time deciding who to vote for. In actuality I'm stuck with the fact that Leave won in 2016 by well over a million votes. I still think Brexit is a serious mistake with negative consequences including the possibility of it leading to the break up of the UK, but it would be an even worse and dangerous mistake to try to ignore a clear democratic decision by the electorate.
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I have a question for you. Imagine a new government held a referendum with a straightforward question: 'Do you agree to the government raising basic rate income tax to 25%?'. Two answers 'Yes' or 'No'. In the campaign some government ministers speak for, others against. Those in favour promise to spend 125% of extra money raised on the NHS, 50% on schools, 50% on police, 25% on transport, and with what's left over construct more youth facilities. You support the additional spends but you can add up to 100 and in any case you think there are fairer ways to finance these improvements. You thus vote no. Yes wins 52-48 on an impressive turnout of 90% of the electorate. So projecting forward to after this particular referendum here is my question to you. Do you think the government should raise basic rate income tax to 25% - (a) Yes (b) No (c) Depends I haven't given you enough information?
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Yatesman
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I will also vote Labour because I'm fed up with the way the press is having a go at him all the time, although if the Lib Dems were the second strongest party in my constituency I would vote tactically for them. I will vote Boris because of all the nasty comments against him on this forum.I am fed up with it, really upsetting. Although, if someone dressed as a banana becomes the second strongest party in my constituency I would vote tactically for them. Before I vote I would like to see some polls about which leader is abused the most. But again if anybody is wearing a bandana I may tactically vote for them. If only voting was as easy as picking the biggest idiot on here, bye 'Snowflakes'.
If Labour wants to win this election they must keep Emily SnootyBerry ( And Dianne Abbacus for that matter) OFF the TV
She wants to spend £200billion on a Trident system Labour would never use and negotiate a Withdrawal deal with the EU that is Remain in all but name and then offer that to the nation in a 2nd vote.
She snarls, glares and gurns, raises her voice and gets in a piss whb put under scrutiny........Car Crash TV...Brilliant!!
Well done Piers and Suzanne for exposing the hypocrisy that underscores Labour's position on these matters.
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PaulC
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Boris Johnson perfectly assessed by Owen Jones in one and a half minutes.
https://twitter.com/...508640407334918?s=20
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