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VP
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Good to see this season is coming along.

I've just moved Eversley & California from the CCL Premier Division to Division One as they've been 'un-promoted' but it doesn't change the maps so Eversley are now showing on the wrong one. Can this be changed please?


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Relegation zone in CoCo Prem needs now to be the bottom 2 - not the bottom 3 as is showing.

Division One as its so low on numbers - should have no relegation zone.


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NCEL Prem - Wakefield need to be removed

UCL Prem - Long Buckby AFC should just be Long Buckby

WMRL Prem - Gornal Athletic need to be added as are currently missing altogether


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WMRL Division Two - Penkridge Town need to be removed, Powick Rangers need to be added


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NCEL Prem - Wakefield need to be removed

UCL Prem - Long Buckby AFC should just be Long Buckby

WMRL Prem - Gornal Athletic need to be added as are currently missing altogether


Long Buckby are in fact Long Buckby AFC as they were formed after the nearby Rugby club. However there is no real need to call them this as the FC suffix is normally omitted in club names anyway, and they are not a 'phoenix' club.



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NCEL Prem - Wakefield need to be removed

UCL Prem - Long Buckby AFC should just be Long Buckby

WMRL Prem - Gornal Athletic need to be added as are currently missing altogether


Long Buckby are in fact Long Buckby AFC as they were formed after the nearby Rugby club. However there is no real need to call them this as the FC suffix is normally omitted in club names anyway, and they are not a 'phoenix' club.


Yes I know they are officially Long Buckby AFC - I just meant that as all clubs have either FC or AFC after their name (unless they begin with it), then I don't see the special reason that Long Buckby's gets included on this site, when no other club's does


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Have done most of the above.
I haven't changed the CCL promotion or relegation spots yet as I've heard there may be a change this season. As soon as I see how it's going to work this season in the league handbook I'll update it.

I haven't removed Wakefield or Penkridge from their leagues yet yet as I'm not sure where to put them. If they're not going to another league they need to be put into a special file so previous seasons' data isn't lost. Until I know which file to put them into I'm leaving them well alone!


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Have done most of the above.
I haven't changed the CCL promotion or relegation spots yet as I've heard there may be a change this season. As soon as I see how it's going to work this season in the league handbook I'll update it.

I haven't removed Wakefield or Penkridge from their leagues yet yet as I'm not sure where to put them. If they're not going to another league they need to be put into a special file so previous seasons' data isn't lost. Until I know which file to put them into I'm leaving them well alone!


Wakefield have folded altogether

Penkridge Town have moved to the Wolverhampton Combination (which isn't covered by this site)


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Have done most of the above.
I haven't changed the CCL promotion or relegation spots yet as I've heard there may be a change this season. As soon as I see how it's going to work this season in the league handbook I'll update it.

I haven't removed Wakefield or Penkridge from their leagues yet yet as I'm not sure where to put them. If they're not going to another league they need to be put into a special file so previous seasons' data isn't lost. Until I know which file to put them into I'm leaving them well alone!


Wakefield have folded altogether

Penkridge Town have moved to the Wolverhampton Combination (which isn't covered by this site)


Yeah, what I'm saying is that I can't just delete a team as it'll delete them from previous seasons as well. There are places admins can put them so the data isn't lost but, as not everything is up and running yet, I don't want to put them in the wrong bit in case it deletes their records from last season or earlier. There's too much work involved putting all the data back in so better to play safe rather than experiment for now.
If Steve is reading this perhaps he can advise me.


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If Steve is reading this perhaps he can advise me.



If any clubs have folded or are going into a League that hasn't yet been moved onto the new season then I put them in Level 20 > ZX Leagues > Temporary Division

If they have folded they can stay there, if they go into a Step 7+ League I can get them out of there and move them to the correct 2014/15 League when it's on the new season. I haven't done much the past week but hope to catch up before the end of the month.


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Will some kind person either amend or create a new thread for the thread level above please.:-

NLM Main Site 2013/14

to NLM Main Site 2014/15

which is where the current thread should reside.

Thanks.


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Relegation zone in CoCo Prem needs now to be the bottom 2 - not the bottom 3 as is showing.

Division One as its so low on numbers - should have no relegation zone.


The league handbook was issued today.
Still three down from the Premier and two down from Division One. There's provision in the rules for the Premier Division to go down to 20 clubs.
The fact that the league are unlikely to relegate two from Division One doesn't mean they can't! You never know what changes may happen from below or sideways these days.


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Not an error for 2014-15, but I wasn't sure where to post this.

I was browsing through the South of Scotland League results & tables, and noticed that the league table for 2011-12 has Burntisland Shipyard finishing 7th.

I'm pretty sure that they've never played in the SoS.

Can anyone confirm/correct?


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Not an error for 2014-15, but I wasn't sure where to post this.

I was browsing through the South of Scotland League results & tables, and noticed that the league table for 2011-12 has Burntisland Shipyard finishing 7th.

I'm pretty sure that they've never played in the SoS.

Can anyone confirm/correct?


Can confirm Burntisland Shipyard have never played in the SoSL, but have no way to correct.



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Not an error for 2014-15, but I wasn't sure where to post this.

I was browsing through the South of Scotland League results & tables, and noticed that the league table for 2011-12 has Burntisland Shipyard finishing 7th.

I'm pretty sure that they've never played in the SoS.

Can anyone confirm/correct?


It should be Stranraer "A".


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Dorset League
Upwey & Broadwey have folded - Wincanton Town Reserves have taken their place
Piddletrenthide United should be Piddletrenthide Spartans

Kent One West
Phoenix United Rederves - Reserves is spelt wrongly (with a d)
Halls AFC should just be Halls

LSL Div One
Aslockton CFC wwhould be Aslockton Cranmers

Liverpool Co Premier Premier
Byron should be Byrom, Roma should be in capitals
In Div One - Wood Street should be Wood Street Manweb, their resreves in Div Two are spelt wrong

Midland League
D2 - Kenilworth Town need KH after their name
D2 - Phoenix United should be removed
D3 - Polesworth need to be removed
D3 - Boldmere Sports & Social need Falcons on the end or their name
D3 - Smithswood Firs should be Smithswood Colts

SWPL 1W - Truro City Reserves should be removed

WMRL D2 - Mahal should be removed

West Cheshire League - the Leagues are shown in order of D1, D3 and then D2 - so D2 and D3 need to be swapped around.


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Done all of the above apart from changing the order of the West Cheshire League. I don't know how to do that.


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D3 - Boldmere Sports & Social need Falcons on the end or their name
D3 - Smithswood Firs should be Smithswood Colts


I think the Falcons and Colts are junior sides and not the first teams.


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D3 - Boldmere Sports & Social need Falcons on the end or their name
D3 - Smithswood Firs should be Smithswood Colts


I think the Falcons and Colts are junior sides and not the first teams.


It's not that I don't trust Samurio, but I check everything before editing it. Boldmere S&S are listed as Falcons and Smithswood are listed as Colts rather than Firs on the FA Find-A-Club website.
If their local FA have put their details in incorrectly then I'll change them back.


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Few more

Litherland Remyca don;t appear to have the United suffix this year - so should be rmeoved from NWC1 and LPL Div One

Cheshire League
Whaley Bridge = Whaley Bridge Athletic
Billinge FC = Billinge
D2 - multiple unnecessary FCs in the middle of names making it look a little messy

East Cheshire League needs to be removed altogether from the menu as league has folded

E&SBL
Wormingford and Colne Engaine should have Wanderers in title, Barnston and Holland don;t need AFC/FC after their name in either division.

Staffs County League divisions are in the wrong order
Sheffield & Hallamshire League divisions are in the wrong order

West Lancashire League D1 - Poulton Town should be plain Poulton

the Nottinghamshire Senior League is MISSING from the site altogether


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Spartan South Midlands Premier Division: "Sun Postal Sports" have changed this season to "Sun Sports"

Bedfordshire League Premier: "AFC Oakley Sports M&DH" have changed this season to "AFC Oakley M&DH"
Bedfordshire League Div 1: "AFC Oakley Sports M&DH Res" have changed this season to "AFC Oakley M&DH Reserves"
Bedfordshire League Div 3: "Caldecote 'A'" should be "Caldecote U20"
Bedfordshire League Div 3: "Westoning Reserves" should be "Westoning U20"

Many thanks


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West Lancashire League D1 - Poulton Town should be plain Poulton


How does that correspond to this?


http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/...s/download/8863/club


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West Lancashire League D1 - Poulton Town should be plain Poulton


How does that correspond to this?


http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/...s/download/8863/club


I presume its out of date / incorrect - they are down on the West Lancashire League Website as Poulton - same as on the FA find a Club search engine!


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Their Twitter account and badge is now plain Poulton FC. Their @ name is still Poulton Town but you can't change that onTwitter like you can the other bit without screwing things up. https://twitter.com/PoultonTownFC


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Their Twitter account and badge is now plain Poulton FC. Their @ name is still Poulton Town but you can't change that onTwitter like you can the other bit without screwing things up. https://twitter.com/PoultonTownFC


The best way to do that is to change the name to say PoultonFC and then register PoultonTownFC as a new account as that will now be available and tweet on that account pointing people to the new account. Any followers would be moved over to say PoultonFC.


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CML North – Westella Hanson should be Westella VIP

GLos Co – Southmead CS Athletic should be Southmead Athletic

Kent Co Prem – Stansfeld O&B Club = Stansfeld (Oxford & Bermondsey)

Middlesex Co Prem – Indian Gymkhana Club – ‘Club’ should be removed

Devon & Exeter – Newtown AFC = Newtown

SSML2 – Pitstone & Ivinghoe should have United appended to their name


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CML North – Westella Hanson should be Westella VIP

GLos Co – Southmead CS Athletic should be Southmead Athletic - they are still listed on the Gloucestershire County League website for season 2014-15 as Southmead CS Athletic; CS = Community Sports.

Kent Co Prem – Stansfeld O&B Club = Stansfeld (Oxford & Bermondsey)

Middlesex Co Prem – Indian Gymkhana Club – ‘Club’ should be removed

Devon & Exeter – Newtown AFC = Newtown

SSML2 – Pitstone & Ivinghoe should have United appended to their name



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But their existing club badge has Southmead Athletic on it, their twitter account refers to them as Southmead Athletic – and most importantly they are registered with the FA on the Find-A-Club website as plain Southmead Athletic.

The Glos County League website may just have it wrong! I'll leave it to the powers that be to decide!


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The Gloucestershire FA Handbook for season 2013-14 has them listed as both Southmead CS Athletic and Southmead Athletic! The GFA cup results for last season has Southmead Athletic.


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If in doubt I go with the name they've registered with the FA as that should be the official one. Southmead's adult sides don't have the CS but their youth sides do. As we're dealing with the adults the CS goes, for this season at least!


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In Essex Olympian League:

Newham United and Springfield need to be moved up to Premier;
Harold Hill and White Ensign need to be moved down to Senior Division One;
Ongar Town and Shenfield AFC need to be added to Senior Division One;

Benfleet and Old Barkabbeyans have been relegated to Senior Division Two.


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And it looks like Ramsey Town have dropped down from the Premier Division to Division three of the Peterborough and District League.


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Edited Essex & Peterborough..

I'd like to get the promotion and relegation places sorted out properly but don't know what's best to do.
For instance - at step 5 one from the top three can go up. Do I do it the same as step 4 and higher where the top place is that greenish colour and the next two in orange, do I do them all as green (probably not as that indicates three up) or all as orange or just the top place highlighted to indicate one up and leave the rest?
Likewise at step 7 where any one of the top five can go up.

I don't want to confuse people into thinking there are play offs or more promotion places available than there are at these levels.


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West Cheshire League Div One - Christleton need to be removed as they have folded
In Div Two - Upton AA should be Upton Athletic Association - and they should be moved to Division as they have taken over Christleton's fixtures!

Teesside League Division Two should be added

Wiltshire League Division One should be removed (as it no longer exists)

In the one division of the Wiltshire League that does still exists:
Malmesbury Town should be Malmesbury Victoria as I'm not aware they've chenged their name
Trowbridge Wanderers need FC removed from their name
Westbury United Res should be Reserves
Sarum Youth Seniors should be Sarum Youth

Thames Valley League should be moved into the T location, its still where the Reading League was in the list!

West Yorkshire League - Swillington Saints should be Swillington Saints Welfare


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OSL Div One - Easington should be Easington Sports Reserves

and Kilkhampton need to be removed from the East Cornwall Premier


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Sorted the teams out but I'm leaving Upton AA as it's written. They're registered with the FA like that, the league lists them like that and, apart from the welcome sentence on their website, they refer to themselves as that.

I haven't touched the leagues as I don't want to experiment and possibly balls things up.


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Spartan South Midlands League Division 2
Saturday, 23 August 2014: Ealing Town 2 v 4 Aston Clinton: Aston Clinton 3 points deducted

Bedfordshire County Football League Division 3
"Clifton Reserves" become "Clifton"


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hi could someone remove calverton mw and bilborough pelican
from the central midlands south please both resigned i have expunged all the results
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NCEL Prem - 16th Sept - it appears Retford United played twice on this evening?


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NCEL Prem - 16th Sept - it appears Retford United played twice on this evening?


Corrected.


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Dorset Senior League - Wincanton Town Reserves have withdrawn/been removed. Now only 13.


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HELLENIC PREMIER


Thatcham Town's home defeat on Sat 13th September appears to have been recorded as vs Milton Utd. It was against Highworth Town : result 1-2.


Hence in the League Table Highworth are missing a 2-1 away win and should currently be in 2nd place (Ascot, Kiddy and Thatcham all drop one place) - and Milton have been 'given' a 2-1 away win and should be on 7pts
.... but in the same position (14th) . Smile


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Thatcham Town's home defeat on Sat 13th September appears to have been recorded as vs Milton Utd. It was against Highworth Town : result 1-2.


Hence in the League Table Highworth are missing a 2-1 away win and should currently be in 2nd place (Ascot, Kiddy and Thatcham all drop one place) - and Milton have been 'given' a 2-1 away win and should be on 7pts
.... but in the same position (14th) . Smile


The above has been corrected, also a score from 25 Aug.

However, the league tables still disagree. (NLM & Hellenic)
Hel Prem results for Sat 20 Sept Holyport v Newbury says PP, therefore not recorded on NLM. The Hel Prem appears to include this in their table as 0-0, a point each.

Perhaps someone could advise please.


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The above has been corrected, also a score from 25 Aug.

However, the league tables still disagree. (NLM & Hellenic)
Hel Prem results for Sat 20 Sept Holyport v Newbury says PP, therefore not recorded on NLM. The Hel Prem appears to include this in their table as 0-0, a point each.

Perhaps someone could advise please.



... can't see that it has now; on (steam-driven) Hellenic Mitoo - unless the new-fangled version is different - haven't looked on there even though I have an account - got fed up with it trying to get me to sign up to loads of faceybook-stuff - leave that kind of jiggery-pokery to my kids!


Seriously doubt points would have been awarded: - the postponement was for problems with the water supplies at Holyport FC's Summerleaze ground - is is quite a long way from anywhere if anyone's tried walking Tongue- feel sure this would merely entail a re-arrangement with Newbury especially this early in the season.


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Couple of corrections
North Devon League - Ilfrcombe Town Reserves should be Ilfracombe Town
Sheffield Prem - Handsworth should be Handsworth Parramore Reserves, Frecheville CA are Frechville Community Association and do Joker need Saturday in brackets after their name - seems odd.


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The above has been corrected, also a score from 25 Aug.

However, the league tables still disagree. (NLM & Hellenic)
Hel Prem results for Sat 20 Sept Holyport v Newbury says PP, therefore not recorded on NLM. The Hel Prem
appears to include this in their table as 0-0
, a point each.

Perhaps someone could advise please.



... can't see that it has now; on (steam-driven) Hellenic Mitoo - unless the new-fangled version is different - haven't looked on there even though I have an account - got fed up with it trying to get me to sign up to loads of faceybook-stuff - leave that kind of jiggery-pokery to my kids!


NLM and Mitoo now agree. Result of 25 Aug is different on Hel Prem and their league table is incorrect. Better stick with Mitoo unless the Hel Premier gets corrected.


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NLM and Mitoo now agree. Result of 25 Aug is different on Hel Prem and their league table is incorrect. Better stick with Mitoo unless the Hel Premier gets corrected.


... look as if they correspond now - so maybe a correction has been posted - didn't notice that a 25th Aug result was wrong.

-I just happened to pick up yesterday that Highworth weren't 2nd on NLM - was looking closer than usual - as I had them on my 'possibles' for a match. tomorrow Tue 23rd.


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West Lancs D1 - GSK Ulverton Rangers - the Ulverton should be Ulverston

Teesside League Division Two still needs to be added.


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Can someone finally update the list of Step 7+ leagues as it is now looking completely out of date and slightly unorganised
  • Bedfordshire County League Div Four needs removing as it no longer exists
  • East Cheshire League has folded so should be removed altogether
  • Thames Valley Premier League's 'header still says Reading Premier League on the list of leagues and when you click on the links Everything should now say Thames Valley Premier League and the whole league and its links moved from the R section in the alphabetical list to the T section
  • Sheffield County Senior League should be the Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League and the divisions are STILL listed in the wrong order.
  • Staffs County Senior League - divisions are in the wrong order
  • West Cheshire League divisions are STILL in the wrong order.
  • Wiltshire League Premier Division should just be renamed Wiltshire League - as there is only one division now - and Division One needs to be removed from the list of leagues.
  • Worthing & District League needs to be removed altogether as its merged into the Brighton League - which as a consequence needs renaming to the Brighton, Hove & Worthing Combination.



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Can someone finally update the list of Step 7+ leagues as it is now looking completely out of date and slightly unorganised
  • Bedfordshire County League Div Four needs removing as it no longer exists
  • East Cheshire League has folded so should be removed altogether
  • Thames Valley Premier League's 'header still says Reading Premier League on the list of leagues and when you click on the links Everything should now say Thames Valley Premier League and the whole league and its links moved from the R section in the alphabetical list to the T section
  • Sheffield County Senior League should be the Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League and the divisions are STILL listed in the wrong order.
  • Staffs County Senior League - divisions are in the wrong order
  • West Cheshire League divisions are STILL in the wrong order.
  • Wiltshire League Premier Division should just be renamed Wiltshire League - as there is only one division now - and Division One needs to be removed from the list of leagues.
  • Worthing & District League needs to be removed altogether as its merged into the Brighton League - which as a consequence needs renaming to the Brighton, Hove & Worthing Combination.

Some of these (e.g. Beds Div 4) need to stay as they are so that the historic tables from previous seasons can be accessed.


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Can someone finally update the list of Step 7+ leagues as it is now looking completely out of date and slightly unorganised
  • Bedfordshire County League Div Four needs removing as it no longer exists
  • East Cheshire League has folded so should be removed altogether
  • Thames Valley Premier League's 'header still says Reading Premier League on the list of leagues and when you click on the links Everything should now say Thames Valley Premier League and the whole league and its links moved from the R section in the alphabetical list to the T section
  • Sheffield County Senior League should be the Sheffield & Hallamshire County Senior League and the divisions are STILL listed in the wrong order.
  • Staffs County Senior League - divisions are in the wrong order
  • West Cheshire League divisions are STILL in the wrong order.
  • Wiltshire League Premier Division should just be renamed Wiltshire League - as there is only one division now - and Division One needs to be removed from the list of leagues.
  • Worthing & District League needs to be removed altogether as its merged into the Brighton League - which as a consequence needs renaming to the Brighton, Hove & Worthing Combination.

Some of these (e.g. Beds Div 4) need to stay as they are so that the historic tables from previous seasons can be accessed.



Can they not be moved to an archive section - there seems to be a section at the bottom of the page where all the old divisions and leagues have been dumped - like the Midland Alliance, the Midland Combo and Hampshire League 2004.


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I'm not sure I should remove from the index divisions that have folded but I will take a look at them

I'm not sure I can change the sort order of divisions but I will take a look.

I'm not sure if I can change the name of the main category ie Reading League but I will take a look at that also


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Dorset Premier League - Hamworthy United Reserves deducted 3 points for an illegible player!


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Bedfordshire County Football League Division One
Brache Sparta deducted 3 points for failing to fulfill their fixture on 6th September 2014 against Queens Park Crescents.

Bedfordshire County Football League Division One
Marabese Ceramics deducted 3 points for failing to fulfill their fixture on 20th September 2014 against Great Barford.

Bedfordshire County Football League Division Two
Bedford United deducted 3 points for failing to fulfill their fixture on 13th September 2014 against FC Houghton.

Many thanks


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There's a strange system of points adjustments afoot in the Peterborough & District League, where for some clubs the number of games played is adjusted too. This means that in the tables on Full Time their W/D/L columns do not equal the P column. I have adjusted the points, and just have to hope tha the method becomes clear later in the season.


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Manchester League Div One - Wigan Robin Park should be Wigan Robin Park Reserves

East Berks D1 - Burnham Beeches seniors should be just Burnham Beeches


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And in the Plymouth & West Devon Combination - Morley Rangers 'A' should be Morley Rangers


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^ These three amendments done.


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Two losses from the Bedfordshire County Football League

In Division Two, Kempston Con Club Sports have had their record expunged (does David Cameron know?)
In Division Three, Moggerhanger United Reserves have had their record expunged (having secured their first point of the season in their last match)

I have removed all their results and fixtures.

Many thanks if they can be deleted.


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Western League Div 1

Sat 25 Oct:
NLM & Western League site's show:
Calne Town 1-4 Barnstable

Mitoo:
Calne Town 0-4 Barnstable, also shows scorers.

Which is right??


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Western League Div 1

Sat 25 Oct:
NLM & Western League site's show:
Calne Town 1-4 Barnstable

Mitoo:
Calne Town 0-4 Barnstable, also shows scorers.

Which is right??


It was 0-4. Match report from the Calne Town website - http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/...tches/report/5665601
I'm guessing it may have been texted or rung in incorrectly on the day and has now been corrected. The league website now says 0-4.


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Western League Div 1

Sat 25 Oct:
NLM & Western League site's show:
Calne Town 1-4 Barnstable

Mitoo:
Calne Town 0-4 Barnstable, also shows scorers.

Which is right??


It was 0-4. Match report from the Calne Town website - http://www.clubwebsite.co.uk/...tches/report/5665601
I'm guessing it may have been texted or rung in incorrectly on the day and has now been corrected. The league website now says 0-4.


Many thanks, NLM has also been updated.


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Some points adjustments needed for the Bedfordshire County Football League, please, as below.

PREMIER DIVISION
3 points were deducted from Caldecote for: Fielding ineligible player and false information on result sheet on 4th Oct
3 points were deducted from Ickwell & Old Warden for: Fielding ineligible player and false information on result sheet on 25th Oct

DIVISION ONE
1 point was deducted from AFC Kempston Town & Bedford College Reserves for: Fielding ineligible player on unknown date

The existing message
"3 points were deducted from Brache Sparta for: Failure to fulfil fixture on 6th Sep"
should be changed to
"1 point was deducted from Brache Sparta for: Failure to fulfil fixture on 6th Sep"
and two points should be added back for them

The existing message
"3 points were deducted from Marabese Ceramics for: Failure to fulfil fixture on 20th Sep"
should be changed to
"1 point was deducted from Marabese Ceramics for: Failure to fulfil fixture on 20th Sep"
and two points should be added back for them

1 point was deducted from Brache Sports for: Fielding ineligible player on unknown date
[N.B.1. this is in addition to the above]
[N.B.2. the above result in Brache Sports having a points total of -2 but the Full Time website is showing -4. However, the League's website news of 12/11/2014 (almost) clearly states that the initial -3 was changed to -1 and then another -1 applied which totals -2 despite what the Full Time site says]

DIVISION TWO
The existing message
"3 points were deducted from Bedford United for: Failure to fulfil fixture on 13th Sep"
should be changed to
"1 point was deducted from Bedford United for: Failure to fulfil fixture on 13th Sep"
and two points should be added back for them

3 points were deducted from Renhold United Reserves for: Fielding ineligible player and false information on result sheet on 20th Sep

DIVISION THREE
1 point was deducted from Flitwick Town Reserves for: Fielding ineligible player on unknown date
1 point was deducted from Mid Beds Tigers for: Fielding ineligible player on 20th Sep
1 point was deducted from Westoning U20 for: Failure to fulfil fixture on 11th October


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Going through this now. There's information on the league's Full-Time pages which adds to what you're saying. Brache Sparta are on -4 points as they've had two points deducted for failing to fulfil today's game. These points were taken away last night.
It seems a bit strange they've had a point deducted for failure to fulfil on 6th September and another point deducted for an unregistered player on the same date but that's the official line at the moment so that's what I'm going with for now.

http://full-time.thefa.com/...amp;teamID=363510948


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Going through this now. There's information on the league's Full-Time pages which adds to what you're saying. Brache Sparta are on -4 points as they've had two points deducted for failing to fulfil today's game. These points were taken away last night.
It seems a bit strange they've had a point deducted for failure to fulfil on 6th September and another point deducted for an unregistered player on the same date but that's the official line at the moment so that's what I'm going with for now.

http://full-time.thefa.com/...amp;teamID=363510948

Good spot VP - glad the extra two point deduction was found. Mind you, it's interesting to see that the points deduction had been implemented before the non-fulfilled match was due to kick off!


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Scarborough Athletic Reserves have ceased competing in the Humber Premier League Premier Division, all results explunged.

I've removed the results, can someone now remove the team. Thanks!


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I've removed the results, can someone now remove the team. Thanks!


Done.


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Spartan South Midlands League Division 1

Saturday, 30 August 2014: Chesham United Reserves 1 v 4 Crawley Green.
Crawley Green deducted 3 points for unknown reason.

Many thanks if this adjustment can be made (and if anyone knows what the points deduction relates to).


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Chimney Corner resigned from IFA Championship 2 before the season started, but are still showing in the table, obviously with no games played! There are 3 relegation spots in that division, but Chimney Corner will take one of those. If there are no suitable applicants from the regional leagues, then 14th will be reprieved.

In IFA1, if they meet license conditions, the champions are promoted and the 2nd particpates in a playoff. If the champions are not licensed, then the top division side finishing 11th is reprieved, and 12th participates in the playoff instead of being directly relegated. If 2nd placed IFA1 side is not licensed, then the highest placed licensed side down to 6th can take their place in the playoff.

It's good that they've set out these rules before the season starts.

If an editor is ever needed for these divisions, I would be prepared to do that.



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Chimney Corner resigned from IFA Championship 2 before the season started, but are still showing in the table, obviously with no games played!


Chimney Corner have not been deleted from the current IFA Championship 2 table as I believe that due to a programme bug deleting would be applied to all previous seasons.

Confirmation from Steve will be appreciated.


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Chimney Corner have not been deleted from the current IFA Championship 2 table as I believe that due to a programme bug deleting would be applied to all previous seasons.

Confirmation from Steve will be appreciated.


Based on the advice above I have removed Ballingry Rovers (resigned) record from SJFA East Super League and they now appear at the foot of the table with no matches played.


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Chimney Corner have not been deleted from the current IFA Championship 2 table as I believe that due to a programme bug deleting would be applied to all previous seasons.

Confirmation from Steve will be appreciated.


Based on the advice above I have removed Ballingry Rovers (resigned) record from SJFA East Super League and they now appear at the foot of the table with no matches played.


To delete a team from the current season only you can move them into the 'Temporary Division' which is located at the bottom of the list of leagues on the admin pages. If they come back in the future they can be moved from there to their new league. I've done this with both these teams.

There is a related problem with the system that I've been meaning to point out for a while. If a team name changes then that change covers previous seasons as well as the current one. There are probably quite a lot of cases where teams' names are incorrect in the archive.


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For the Spartan South Midlands League Division 2, can we please remove the "3 points were deducted from Aston Clinton for: unknown v Ealing Town 23rd Aug" and return the three point to Aston Clinton.

It appears that this decision has been reversed and the match (23/08/2014 Ealing Town 2-4 Aston Clinton) has been scrubbed from the League's records. I have no idea why but a Google search for the phrases "Aston Clinton" "Ealing Town" "23 August" currently suggests two websites used to agree with Non League Matters that three points were deducted from Aston Clinton. In the Mitoo site, the match has been completely removed from the records of 23rd August and is blank on the results and fixtures grid, suggesting that the match will be played again at some point.

I have removed the match from Non League Matters but the three points still need to be returned to Aston Clinton. Can we have a note included at the bottom to the effect that "23rd August Ealing Town 2 Aston Clinton 4: match erased from table".

Many thanks.


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For the Spartan South Midlands League Division 2, can we please remove the "3 points were deducted from Aston Clinton for: unknown v Ealing Town 23rd Aug" and return the three point to Aston Clinton.

It appears that this decision has been reversed and the match (23/08/2014 Ealing Town 2-4 Aston Clinton) has been scrubbed from the League's records. I have no idea why but a Google search for the phrases "Aston Clinton" "Ealing Town" "23 August" currently suggests two websites used to agree with Non League Matters that three points were deducted from Aston Clinton. In the Mitoo site, the match has been completely removed from the records of 23rd August and is blank on the results and fixtures grid, suggesting that the match will be played again at some point.

I have removed the match from Non League Matters but the three points still need to be returned to Aston Clinton. Can we have a note included at the bottom to the effect that "23rd August Ealing Town 2 Aston Clinton 4: match erased from table".

Many thanks.


I've done this (I've not added the note at the bottom as I'm not sure how) but we'll have to keep an eye on it as the league's goalrun site still shows the deduction. http://www.ssmfl.org/...iv=14049&age=all.


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Thanks VP you are quite right, move defunct teams to the ZX League, that way they stay in previous League tables and can be brought back if or when they reform.

The only way to resolve name changes is to make a new team and move the old one to the ZX League. This is only really a problem if there are attendance statistics to be carried over.

Removing a points deduction from a team automatically deletes the message from the bottom of the table. If you want to add a message specific to a division you can add it to the top if you want. Go to Leagues & Divisions, click the Division you want, you will see the top and bottom panels that contain the code. Just click on the HTML tab, add a message and a <br> tag You can add it to the bottom in the same way if you want but it will appear after the fixtures / results and not at the bottom of the table.

Thanks very much to all the editors and admins who are doing a fantastic job keeping the site accurate, up to date and informative for all the users.


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Some adjustments needed for the Bedfordshire County Football League, please

Division One
=========
Brache Sports now have 6 points deducted (!), this time an additional -2 for ineligible player(s) against Great Barford 29th November
(didn't do them too much good - they lost 11-1 but at least it was an improvement on the 24-1 the previous week!)

Shefford Town & Campton Reserves have -1 point for ineligible player(s) against Bedford SA 22nd November
(a respectable 2-1 defeat)

Division Two
=========
Meltis Albion Reserves have -1 point for ineligible player(s) against Stevington 15th November
(they lost the match 9-1!)

Division Three
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Mid Beds Tigers have -3 points for ineligible player(s) against Sandy Reserves 15th November
(they only lost 3-1)


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The Bridgnorth-Bewdley and Malvern-Haughmond games have been recorded twice - once on Sat 6th dec and again on Sun 7th Dec. The Sunday games obviously need to be deleted.


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Done the Bedfordshire deductions.

I can't do the West Midlands (Regional) League edits Sarumio mentions but I've noticed the Malvern Town v Haughmond result was 4-1 so, as well as deleting Sunday's game, Saturday's needs to be edited.
There were also three games in the league last night (9th) that aren't listed in either the fixtures or results sections.


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I've cocked up.
It turns out I can add fixtures to any league but I can't delete them or change them, apart from the leagues I'm a specific administrator for.

I've just added Greenwich Borough 2-1 Corinthian in the Southern Counties East League as it was missing but I put it in as December 10th rather than December 3rd. can someone delete the Dec 10th result please?


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I've just added Greenwich Borough 2-1 Corinthian in the Southern Counties East League as it was missing but I put it in as December 10th rather than December 3rd. can someone delete the Dec 10th result please?


Have deleted 10 Dec result as requested.


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Leicestr Senior League Prem

Kirby Muxloe Res deducted 8 points

5 for the use of a suspended player
3 for failure to fulfill fixture


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Leicestr Senior League Prem

Kirby Muxloe Res deducted 8 points

5 for the use of a suspended player
3 for failure to fulfill fixture


Actioned.

Also points deductions from Houghton Rangers and St Andrews Reserves.

NLM & FA leagues now agree.


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Am trying to log in to do some admin re results/fixtures but have got the Brighton & Hove District League appearing instead of Bedfordshire County League and Spartan South Midlands.

Anyone else getting similar?
Same problem occurring for me again except this time I've got Northern League Division 1 instead of Bedfordshire County League and Spartan South Midlands.
[originally posted in 2013-14 thread by mistake!]

From time to time I get the problem above where I get the wrong divisions available to me for editing purposes when I log in.

At present I've got the Isthmian League (all divisions) rather than Bedfordshire County League and Spartan South Midlands.

Can someone please reset something or do whatever is necessary?

Many thanks.



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Bedfordshire County Football League

Premier Division
Ickwell & Old Warden deducted one point for unfulfilled fixture 29th November (away to AFC Oakley M&DH)

Thanks if someone can make this alteration.


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From time to time I get the problem above where I get the wrong divisions available to me for editing purposes when I log in.

At present I've got the Isthmian League (all divisions) rather than Bedfordshire County League and Spartan South Midlands.

Can someone please reset something or do whatever is necessary?

Many thanks.


Hitchin-John has helped out with this (many thanks) but is although he has restored my access to edit the Bedfordshire County Football League, he is unable to also restore my access to the Spartan South Midlands League (all divisions).

Can someone please add these?


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Bedfordshire County Football League

Premier Division
Ickwell & Old Warden deducted one point for unfulfilled fixture 29th November (away to AFC Oakley M&DH)

Thanks if someone can make this alteration.


Actioned.


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Not mine, but I see Kent County League Premier Division has a 3 point deduction for Tudor Sports we're not showing (see http://kentcountyfootballleague.co.uk/league-tables-2014-15/)


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Not mine, but I see Kent County League Premier Division has a 3 point deduction for Tudor Sports we're not showing (see http://kentcountyfootballleague.co.uk/league-tables-2014-15/)


Actioned.


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From time to time I get the problem above where I get the wrong divisions available to me for editing purposes when I log in.

At present I've got the Isthmian League (all divisions) rather than Bedfordshire County League and Spartan South Midlands.

Can someone please reset something or do whatever is necessary?

Many thanks.


Hitchin-John has helped out with this (many thanks) but is although he has restored my access to edit the Bedfordshire County Football League, he is unable to also restore my access to the Spartan South Midlands League (all divisions).

Can someone please add these?



OK this is a problem in that the software isn't so user friendly for the admins.

To explain briefly..... an admin can edit any league, he doesn't have them pre-loaded like the editors do. But to do so he has to click on his own email address from the list of editors / admins. If he clicks on the wrong email address, which is an easy mistake then that editor loses their pre-assigned leagues.

John just for future reference... you can re-enable access to multiple leagues for editors by simply holding down the Ctrl key when selecting leagues. You have no need to select divisions, just selecting the league header will give access to all divisions

multi: I will get into the admin now and re-enable the SSML on your account, thanks for updating these leagues, much appreciated.


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Bedfordshire County League Premier Division

AFC Turvey have resigned and their results have been expunged.

Please can they be removed from the table and a note to this effect added?

Many thanks.


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Bedfordshire County League Premier Division

AFC Turvey have resigned and their results have been expunged.

Please can they be removed from the table and a note to this effect added?

Many thanks.


I have removed AFC Turvey from the Beds Prem Div as requested.

Not sure if the facility exists to enable notes to be added as requested.

Perhaps Steve would like to comment?


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Bedfordshire County League Premier Division

AFC Turvey have resigned and their results have been expunged.

Please can they be removed from the table and a note to this effect added?

Many thanks.


I have removed AFC Turvey from the Beds Prem Div as requested.

Not sure if the facility exists to enable notes to be added as requested.

Perhaps Steve would like to comment?



You can add a message above the League table from the Leagues / Divisions tab. Click the Division you want and in the 'Content Above' panel click the HTML icon to edit the source. Put the massage at the bottom after everything else and enclose it in p tags.

I've also got rid of Brache Sparta from Division One of this league as they have been expelled


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Put the massage at the bottom after everything else and enclose it in p tags.



Wow this sites changed a lot during my long holiday ! Not tried p tags before.



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Spartan South Midlands League Division 1

Saturday, 30 August 2014: Chesham United Reserves 1 v 4 Crawley Green.
Crawley Green deducted 3 points for unknown reason.

Many thanks if this adjustment can be made (and if anyone knows what the points deduction relates to).

I asked for this change to be made on 23rd November and it did happen. However, it appears to have disappeared.

Can the deduction and note please be reinstated?


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For the Spartan South Midlands League Division 2, can we please remove the "3 points were deducted from Aston Clinton for: unknown v Ealing Town 23rd Aug" and return the three point to Aston Clinton.

It appears that this decision has been reversed and the match (23/08/2014 Ealing Town 2-4 Aston Clinton) has been scrubbed from the League's records. I have no idea why but a Google search for the phrases "Aston Clinton" "Ealing Town" "23 August" currently suggests two websites used to agree with Non League Matters that three points were deducted from Aston Clinton. In the Mitoo site, the match has been completely removed from the records of 23rd August and is blank on the results and fixtures grid, suggesting that the match will be played again at some point.

I have removed the match from Non League Matters but the three points still need to be returned to Aston Clinton. Can we have a note included at the bottom to the effect that "23rd August Ealing Town 2 Aston Clinton 4: match erased from table".

Many thanks.


I've done this (I've not added the note at the bottom as I'm not sure how) but we'll have to keep an eye on it as the league's goalrun site still shows the deduction. http://www.ssmfl.org/...iv=14049&age=all.

Again, NLM has reverted to a previous state for this division and is again showing the match result and a three point deduction for Aston Clinton.

The goalrun website still shows the three point deduction (http://www.ssmfl.org/Divisions?div=14049&age=all) but the mitoo site (http://football.mitoo.co/ResultsGrid.cfm?DivisionID=14425&LeagueCode=SMID2014) shows the match as not existing and no point deduction.

Which should be regarded as the more reliable? My assumption is mitoo as it is probably/perhaps used as a league management tool by league officials.


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For the Spartan South Midlands League Division 2, can we please remove the "3 points were deducted from Aston Clinton for: unknown v Ealing Town 23rd Aug" and return the three point to Aston Clinton.

It appears that this decision has been reversed and the match (23/08/2014 Ealing Town 2-4 Aston Clinton) has been scrubbed from the League's records. I have no idea why but a Google search for the phrases "Aston Clinton" "Ealing Town" "23 August" currently suggests two websites used to agree with Non League Matters that three points were deducted from Aston Clinton. In the Mitoo site, the match has been completely removed from the records of 23rd August and is blank on the results and fixtures grid, suggesting that the match will be played again at some point.

I have removed the match from Non League Matters but the three points still need to be returned to Aston Clinton. Can we have a note included at the bottom to the effect that "23rd August Ealing Town 2 Aston Clinton 4: match erased from table".

Many thanks.


I've done this (I've not added the note at the bottom as I'm not sure how) but we'll have to keep an eye on it as the league's goalrun site still shows the deduction. http://www.ssmfl.org/...iv=14049&age=all.

Again, NLM has reverted to a previous state for this division and is again showing the match result and a three point deduction for Aston Clinton.

The goalrun website still shows the three point deduction (http://www.ssmfl.org/Divisions?div=14049&age=all) but the mitoo site (http://football.mitoo.co/ResultsGrid.cfm?DivisionID=14425&LeagueCode=SMID2014) shows the match as not existing and no point deduction.

Which should be regarded as the more reliable? My assumption is mitoo as it is probably/perhaps used as a league management tool by league officials.



Oh sorry I think that was me. I occasionally surf some of the NLM tables making sure they match official tables. The source I am using is their official site which has an up to date table showing the points deduction


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For the Spartan South Midlands League Division 2, can we please remove the "3 points were deducted from Aston Clinton for: unknown v Ealing Town 23rd Aug" and return the three point to Aston Clinton.

It appears that this decision has been reversed and the match (23/08/2014 Ealing Town 2-4 Aston Clinton) has been scrubbed from the League's records. I have no idea why but a Google search for the phrases "Aston Clinton" "Ealing Town" "23 August" currently suggests two websites used to agree with Non League Matters that three points were deducted from Aston Clinton. In the Mitoo site, the match has been completely removed from the records of 23rd August and is blank on the results and fixtures grid, suggesting that the match will be played again at some point.

I have removed the match from Non League Matters but the three points still need to be returned to Aston Clinton. Can we have a note included at the bottom to the effect that "23rd August Ealing Town 2 Aston Clinton 4: match erased from table".

Many thanks.


I've done this (I've not added the note at the bottom as I'm not sure how) but we'll have to keep an eye on it as the league's goalrun site still shows the deduction. http://www.ssmfl.org/...iv=14049&age=all.

Again, NLM has reverted to a previous state for this division and is again showing the match result and a three point deduction for Aston Clinton.

The goalrun website still shows the three point deduction (http://www.ssmfl.org/Divisions?div=14049&age=all) but the mitoo site (http://football.mitoo.co/ResultsGrid.cfm?DivisionID=14425&LeagueCode=SMID2014) shows the match as not existing and no point deduction.

Which should be regarded as the more reliable? My assumption is mitoo as it is probably/perhaps used as a league management tool by league officials.



Oh sorry I think that was me. I occasionally surf some of the NLM tables making sure they match official tables. The source I am using is their official site which has an up to date table showing the points deduction

No need to be sorry if goalrun is correct and mitoo wrong. Do we have any idea which one is more likely to be right? Is there anywhere that the league publish things such as points deductions and their reasons?


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Interesting. I thought goalrun and mitoo were the same entity


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Interesting. I thought goalrun and mitoo were the same entity


I think they are. I've just clicked on the link I mentioned - it's Clubwebsite not Goalrun.

I messaged the league's fixture secretary, Karen Browne, who visits this site to see if she can clear up the confusion.


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The SSML does not use Goalrun so any information shown on their cannot be classed as official.

The SSML currently uses Mitoo for records although the SSML is also using http://www.ssmfl.org/ although the latter will be used next season the site is still being worked upon and all features are not being used although results and league tables are being updated by clubs themselves who have to text their match results in (although should they make a mistake it cannot be changed until I am informed to make manual changes).

With regards to the Aston Clinton v Ealing Town fixture

6.6. Correspondence from Ealing Town asking whether the match played earlier in the season against Aston Clinton, which they had won 4-2, could be replayed, see minute 6.3 of minutes dated 28/08/14. In view of the decisions taken on subsequent fixtures where the non-offending club had been given the opportunity to replay the match when they had either drawn or lost the fixture it was agreed that the match be replayed. The deduction of 3 points agreed in the original decision taken on 28/08/14 should be revoked and the match now declared void. The re-arranged fixture will be played at Ealing Town who will be responsible for the match day costs and arrangements.

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I've updated the NLM table.
I've tried adding a note to the table as decribed above (<p>Saturday 23 August: Ealing Town 2 v 4 Aston Clinton declared void</p>) but it's not showing up. Unsure


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Spartan South Midlands League Division 1

Saturday, 30 August 2014: Chesham United Reserves 1 v 4 Crawley Green.
Crawley Green deducted 3 points for unknown reason.

Many thanks if this adjustment can be made (and if anyone knows what the points deduction relates to).

I asked for this change to be made on 23rd November and it did happen. However, it appears to have disappeared.

Can the deduction and note please be reinstated?

If we're accepting that Mitoo is more likely to be correct than clubwebsite then can the three point deduction for Crawley Green be implemented again, please?

This appears to be correct according to paragraph 6.4 of the same minutes quoted by Karen Browne above for Aston Clinton v Ealing Town (see http://www.fansfocus.com/...urday-22nd-november/).


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Hereford United have today had their results expunged from the Southern League Premier.

As a consequence I have removed the results from NLM, but I too have failed to add a note to the league table ,'Hereford United results expunged January 2015'.

Can a expert please add such a note, thanks.


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With Hereford gone, can someone alter the colouring for the relegation places in the Southern Premier - it should now be bottom three coloured as relegation places, not the bottom 4.


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Bedfordshire County Football League Division One:
AFC Harlington: 1 point deducted for failure to fulfill game on 13th Dec 2014

Bedfordshire County Football League Division Three:
Mid Beds Tigers: 1 point deducted for failure to fulfill game on 6th Dec 2014
Shefford Town & Campton A: 1 point deducted for failure to fulfill game on 20th Dec 2014

Many thanks if these adjustments can be made.


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All done up to here.


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Devon & Exeter Prem - Elmore Reserves should be Elmore (as the first team took over the reserves place earlier this season)

South Devon League - Watts, Blake & Bearne have folded and their results need expunging from the table.


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Devon & Exeter Prem - Elmore Reserves should be Elmore (as the first team took over the reserves place earlier this season)


I don't think this is a good idea - they started the season as Elmore reserves, they should be shown as such until the end of the season. The first team should appear in the Peninsula League section but of course be marked "record expunged"


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Devon & Exeter Prem - Elmore Reserves should be Elmore (as the first team took over the reserves place earlier this season)


I don't think this is a good idea - they started the season as Elmore reserves, they should be shown as such until the end of the season. The first team should appear in the Peninsula League section but of course be marked "record expunged"


I agree with Richard if only because it'll be a problem to implement on the site. It's easy changing a team name but not when there's already been a team with the same name in the same season.
I'll leave them as they are for now and we can drop the 'Reserves' for the start of next season assuming they're still going.

I've deleted W, B &B. Our table doesn't match the one of Full Time and I can't work out the problem. The points totals are the same but the GD columns aren't. I've checked every result for East Allington & Upton and the results match on both sites so I'm struggling to see how the GD doesn't.


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I think I've worked out what's going on in the South Devon Premier.
There have been three games awarded to teams.

It appears East Allington v Upton was awarded as a 2-1 home win.
Newton Abbot Spurs v Kingsteington was awarded as a 1-0 away win.
Dartmouth v Bovey Tracey was awarded without any goals being given.

I'm not one to knock leagues unfairly but this seems a bit strange to me!
As far as I'm aware we can only award points and not goals on this site so I don't know how to proceed.


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I think I've worked out what's going on in the South Devon Premier.
There have been three games awarded to teams.

It appears East Allington v Upton was awarded as a 2-1 home win.
Newton Abbot Spurs v Kingsteington was awarded as a 1-0 away win.
Dartmouth v Bovey Tracey was awarded without any goals being given.

I'm not one to knock leagues unfairly but this seems a bit strange to me!
As far as I'm aware we can only award points and not goals on this site so I don't know how to proceed.



I can't see how the first two can be as under FA Rule games can only be awarded 0-0.



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Witton V Buxton in NPL Prem 17th Jan has the wrong attendance. It should be 394 not 3394 :)


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Witton V Buxton in NPL Prem 17th Jan has the wrong attendance. It should be 394 not 3394 :)


Corrected


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Teams that have withdrawn and their results need to be expunged from the respective tables:

Wellingborough Old Grammarians - Northants Comb Div One

Huntercombe - East Berks Premier

Chellaston - Midlands Regional Alliance Prem

Also in Sussex Div One - Crawley Down need Gatwick on the end of their name.


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Spartan South Midlands League Division 1

Saturday, 30 August 2014: Chesham United Reserves 1 v 4 Crawley Green.
Crawley Green deducted 3 points for unknown reason.

Many thanks if this adjustment can be made (and if anyone knows what the points deduction relates to).

I asked for this change to be made on 23rd November and it did happen. However, it appears to have disappeared.

Can the deduction and note please be reinstated?

If we're accepting that Mitoo is more likely to be correct than clubwebsite then can the three point deduction for Crawley Green be implemented again, please?

This appears to be correct according to paragraph 6.4 of the same minutes quoted by Karen Browne above for Aston Clinton v Ealing Town (see http://www.fansfocus.com/...urday-22nd-november/).

Bumping this post up the agenda as the three point penalty for Crawley Green is not showing on NLM.


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Crawley Green's deduction added.
Someone's already done the stuff from Sarumio's post so all done up to here.


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Teams that have withdrawn and their results need to be expunged from the respective tables:

Wellingborough Old Grammarians - Northants Comb Div One

Huntercombe - East Berks Premier

Chellaston - Midlands Regional Alliance Prem

Also in Sussex Div One - Crawley Down need Gatwick on the end of their name.


All of the above have been actioned and NLM league tables checked against the respective clubs league table's.


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Could someone do a couple of points deductions in the Dorset Premier League, please? Poole Borough have been deducted 3 points for failing to fulfill a fixture, and Swanage Town & Herston have been deducted 3 points for a reason which I have not been able to ascertain, and which their website does not seem to acknowledge. Thanks


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Done the Dorset Premier League deductions. Also edited incorrect result from December so our table now matches the table on Full Time.


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Bedfordshire County Football League Division 2
Renhold United Reserves deducted 2 points for fielding an ineligible player 17/01/2015.

N.B. This is in addition to their earlier three point penalty relating to a match in September.

Many thanks


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Bedfordshire County Football League Division 2
Renhold United Reserves deducted 2 points for fielding an ineligible player 17/01/2015.

N.B. This is in addition to their earlier three point penalty relating to a match in September.

Many thanks


The above has been actioned.


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Bedfordshire County Football League Division 3

Please can Ickwell & Old Warden Reserves be removed as they have withdrawn from the league? Their results have been expunged.

Many thanks.


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Bedfordshire County Football League Division 3

Please can Ickwell & Old Warden Reserves be removed as they have withdrawn from the league? Their results have been expunged.

Many thanks.


Done.
This league has certainly kept us busy this season!


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Can I ask why some leagues have not been updated on the main site. The following 6 leagues have no February results and so the league tables are now very out of date. Has the person that normally updates these leagues been on holiday or something?

Mid-Sussex
Oxfordshire Senior
Thames Valley Premier
West Cheshire
West Riding County Amateur

West Yorkshire



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We are short of editors. There are some admin editors who have access to all leagues aswell as myself but there is only so much we can do.


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To the best of my knowledge all leagues are up to date to 25 Feb.

I use the Search/Date enquiry to find outstanding fixtures but this only works if fixtures are created when fulfilling results.

Desperately needing editors. Since last Saturday evening I have updated over 150 League/Divisions over about 30 hours and we start again tomorrow. Cannot maintain that level of input.


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Bedfordshire County Football League Division 3

Please can Ickwell & Old Warden Reserves be removed as they have withdrawn from the league? Their results have been expunged.

Many thanks.


Done.
This league has certainly kept us busy this season!

Yes, and if we are to believe http://full-time.thefa.com/...lectedLeague=7195521, a new team has joined the Premier Division. They're apparently called "Surrey Elite Intermediate League"!


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WMLP – promotion link points to Midland Alliance, not Midland League

Suggestion: could clubs that drop out of a division during the season be shown in a footnote?


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WMLP – promotion link points to Midland Alliance, not Midland League

Suggestion: could clubs that drop out of a division during the season be shown in a footnote?


Promotion link changed.

We can add notes above the table. I've only found out how to do this in the past few weeks and have added a few withdrawals to some leagues but there are so many I haven't done them all.
From next season, as long as they're mentioned on here, I can do the lot.


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Withdrawals down to Step 5/6 would be OK. They're not as frequent or as widespread as lower down!

I suppose a distinction should also be made between a pre-season resignation such as Ilfracombe, clubs folding or going into limbo etc.


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Withdrawals down to Step 5/6 would be OK. They're not as frequent or as widespread as lower down!

I suppose a distinction should also be made between a pre-season resignation such as Ilfracombe, clubs folding or going into limbo etc.


It's only worth doing it if a division is running short due to resignations / expulsions following AGMs in my opinion. For instance, I've just added Salisbury City's expulsion to the Conference South page. I don't think there's any need to stick the info in Conference Premier as well.

Ilfracombe was post AGM so I'll add that.


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It's only worth doing it if a division is running short due to resignations / expulsions following AGMs in my opinion.


That's probably what I meant!


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Suggestion: could clubs that drop out of a division during the season be shown in a footnote?

An alternative suggestion, which I guess would be easier to implement, and which I did with Staffs League Div One when Bradwell resigned a few months ago:

And that is - to leave the club in the table, but with zero games.

It is then clear to anyone reading the table that the club started the season in the division, but withdrew (or were withdrawn) at some time during the season.

I'm planning to do just the same with Stockport Sports if, as expected, they're expelled from the NWC Prem Div this evening.


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Desperately needing editors.

Would it be an idea to give a list of those leagues/divisions which suffer most from shortage of editors? I cover six divisions within two leagues, and would be happy to take on a further league, but the system for applying is such that offers are made to do a specific league/division. I wouldn't want to apply for one which already has adequate coverage.


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We are short of editors. There are some admin editors who have access to all leagues aswell as myself but there is only so much we can do.


Would it not be a good idea to lodge an appeal in the General Discussion section?


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Suggestion: could clubs that drop out of a division during the season be shown in a footnote?

An alternative suggestion, which I guess would be easier to implement, and which I did with Staffs League Div One when Bradwell resigned a few months ago:

And that is - to leave the club in the table, but with zero games.

It is then clear to anyone reading the table that the club started the season in the division, but withdrew (or were withdrawn) at some time during the season.


My preferred option would be to leave the club in the table as you suggest although a note at the top explaining it won't go amiss. We've always deleted the teams completely on this site. In general I think that's what leagues do as well. I think it looks better if everything's done in the same format throughout the site. It's too late in the season to add everyone who's been deleted but, from next season, we need to decide which way to do it.


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My preferred option would be to leave the club in the table as you suggest although a note at the top explaining it won't go amiss. We've always deleted the teams completely on this site. In general I think that's what leagues do as well.

I notice that NWC has shown the table tonight with Stockport Sports in 22nd place, having 0 points from 0 games.


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Just tidying results for last night.
Query = Wednesfield v Pegasus Juniors was abandoned towards the end because of a floodlight problem with Pegasus winning 4-0 at time.
I have deleted this ?
Is there a (different) way of dealing with such things ?


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Not really. Postponements, abandonments or anything else that has no bearing on the league table just gets deleted.

Cheers


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Northallerton Town Reserves should be removed (and have their results expunged) from the Teesside Div One table.

Also in Kent Div One (can't remember which one) but Idle Hill should be Ide Hill.


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^Done


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IPS Irish Premiership.
Please note the following.

* The Coleraine v Institute game on 1 November resulted in a 3-0 loss for both teams due to the playing of ineligible players

The NLM software does not allow for such a situation.

I have deleted the original result as above, any comment and best solution will be appreciated.


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IPS Irish Premiership.
Please note the following.

* The Coleraine v Institute game on 1 November resulted in a 3-0 loss for both teams due to the playing of ineligible players

The NLM software does not allow for such a situation.

I have deleted the original result as above, any comment and best solution will be appreciated.


All I can think of is leave it as it is - the points totals are correct. At the end of the season both clubs will be a game short in the table and the goal difference will be wrong. I'll add a note to that effect.

**edit**
I've just looked at it. It is the end of the season!
Note added. I hope it makes sense.


(This post was edited by VP on Mar 23, 2015, 10:24 PM)


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IPS Irish Premiership.
Please note the following.

* The Coleraine v Institute game on 1 November resulted in a 3-0 loss for both teams due to the playing of ineligible players

The NLM software does not allow for such a situation.

I have deleted the original result as above, any comment and best solution will be appreciated.


All I can think of is leave it as it is - the points totals are correct. At the end of the season both clubs will be a game short in the table and the goal difference will be wrong. I'll add a note to that effect.

**edit**
I've just looked at it. It is the end of the season!
Note added. I hope it makes sense.


I favoured fulfilling the fixture 99-0 because the match was played and adjusting the points column which we can do.

Your note could be amended and would prefer 'are incorrect', don't like 'arn't'


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I favoured fulfilling the fixture 99-0 because the match was played and adjusting the points column which we can do.

Your note could be amended and would prefer 'are incorrect', don't like 'arn't'


I'll have a little play - see what looks best. The problem I forsee with a 99-0 is that the system will say the match has been awarded to one of the teams.

I'll edit the note. English has never been my strong point despite being born and bred here.


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Not sure how this has gone un-noticed all season so far, as its more than a minor spelling mistake or suffix omission, so I suspect someone has left it on purrpose, seeing as they must get their results from the Wearside League website to copy onto this site?

But it should be changed

Coxhoe Athletic should be Spennymoor Town Reserves.


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Not sure how this has gone un-noticed all season so far, as its more than a minor spelling mistake or suffix omission, so I suspect someone has left it on purrpose, seeing as they must get their results from the Wearside League website to copy onto this site?

But it should be changed

Coxhoe Athletic should be Spennymoor Town Reserves.


Agreed with FA web site and NLM amended as per above.


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Harrowby Saints need to have their results expunged from the Central Midlands League South Division

Meanwhile on Teesside - it should read in the table "Beechwood, Easterside & District Social"


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In the Welsh Premier League, on the map, Cefn Druids are spelled as 'Cefn Fruids'...



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Harrowby Saints need to have their results expunged from the Central Midlands League South Division

Meanwhile on Teesside - it should read in the table "Beechwood, Easterside & District Social"


Beechwood - changed as requested.

Harrowby - waiting to see confirmation


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The Teesside League club are referred to by the FA, the North Riding FA, the Teesside League and the local press as BEADS. The Social Club may be formally referred to by the full name, but I think there's enough evidence that the name of the football team should just be BEADS.


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The Teesside League club are referred to by the FA, the North Riding FA, the Teesside League and the local press as BEADS. The Social Club may be formally referred to by the full name, but I think there's enough evidence that the name of the football team should just be BEADS.

You're probably correct. However, similar remarks could be made about a great number of clubs in various leagues.

When checking yesterday, I saw it also referred to as the name to which Sarumio asked it to be changed, and so I did make the change; the previous name given here was clearly wrong.


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Oxfordshire Senior League

In trying to agree the NLM Prem Div league table I note that results recorded on NLM (14 Feb) are recorded on Mitoo and NOT on the FA Full Time site and there are other differences.

The NLM Div1 agrees with FA Full Time and NOT Mitoo.

Assuming the FA Full Time is the best option how do we get their data corrected with 14 Feb results?


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At a meeting of the Management Committee on Monday 30th March, the league, with great regret, formally accepted both Harrowby Saints FC and Kinsley Boys FC resignations from the CMFL with immediate effect.

The playing records for both clubs for this season will be expunged from the records.

Read more at http://full-time.thefa.com/...#AkIiKGjXrW3ah2OO.99

NLM records expunged. Clubs left at foot of table with zero balances, notes required at top of table.


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Nuneaton have had 3 points deducted for fielding an ineligible player



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Nuneaton have had 3 points deducted for fielding an ineligible player


Normally I'd wait before doing this due to the appeal process but I've just read "Nuneaton have admitted the charge" so I'll do it now.

I'm sure Welling would go for a replayed game given the chance as they don't gain anything out of this but that's another discussion for another thread.


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Hi

Just noticed that in the Southern League Premier fixtures for April 11th we have Corby Town v Frome Town.

Corby are actually away to Truro on that day, and have already played Frome (Feb 21st, 3-0).


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Hi

Just noticed that in the Southern League Premier fixtures for April 11th we have Corby Town v Frome Town.

Corby are actually away to Truro on that day, and have already played Frome (Feb 21st, 3-0).



Corrected.


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Leics Sen Prem

Kirby Muxloe Res deducted a further 3 points for failure to fulfil at Blaby & Whetstone Res on 24th Feb.


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Leics Sen Prem

Kirby Muxloe Res deducted a further 3 points for failure to fulfil at Blaby & Whetstone Res on 24th Feb.


Done.


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Heaton Stannington have been deducted 3 points for fielding an ineligible player in game against Willington. They will also lose the point they gained for the 2-2 draw.



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Heaton Stannington have been deducted 3 points for fielding an ineligible player in game against Willington. They will also lose the point they gained for the 2-2 draw.


Done.


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Having managed to get my PC infected with RDSRV.com etc, my updating of NLM will be severely curtailed during this coming weekend.

It will be appreciated if updating help can be given to all leagues Levels 1-4., NL @ Level 5, and all Irish, Scottish and Welsh leagues.

Hope to get my PC man in on Monday to fix.


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Having managed to get my PC infected with RDSRV.com etc, my updating of NLM will be severely curtailed during this coming weekend.

It will be appreciated if updating help can be given to all leagues Levels 1-4., NL @ Level 5, and all Irish, Scottish and Welsh leagues.

Hope to get my PC man in on Monday to fix.



You don't need a "PC man".... there are plenty of removal guides in internetland for this particular Trojan.


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Northern Alliance Prem
Whitley Bay Reserves win over Red House Farm has been recorded twice - on the same day.

and in the North Berks League Div One - Watlington Town have played 23 games in a 12 team division - so something has gone a bit wrong there!


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Northern Alliance Prem
Whitley Bay Reserves win over Red House Farm has been recorded twice - on the same day.

and in the North Berks League Div One - Watlington Town have played 23 games in a 12 team division - so something has gone a bit wrong there!


Item 1 2nd entry deleted.
Item 2 Watlington should have been Wallingford. Correction made.

Both NLM and the respective league tables agree.


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NPL 1S. The opposition in Leek's 1-0 win last night was Gresley and not Goole. Cheers.


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NPL 1S. The opposition in Leek's 1-0 win last night was Gresley and not Goole. Cheers.


Edited.


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Havant & Waterlooville's average attendance is way out, lowest gate of 770 is also wrong, lowest was 386 v St. Albans City.


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Havant & Waterlooville's average attendance is way out, lowest gate of 770 is also wrong, lowest was 386 v St. Albans City.


You're looking at the 'recent form' table. That only shows attendances from each club's last six games.


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Sorry, didn't realise there was two different sections, don't visit it that often.


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Havant & Waterlooville's average attendance is way out, lowest gate of 770 is also wrong, lowest was 386 v St. Albans City.


We also show 386 as lowest v St Albans.


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When you click into view the Teesside League Division One table the level says Step 8 - it is at Step 7.

The opposite applies to the Sussex County Division Three which is not Step 7.

And surely the North Berks Div One is not Step 8, but actually at 'Step 9' - i.e. notionally below the Oxfordshire Senior League Division One.

And in the Sheffield & Hallamshire County League, Davys should be just Davy - no 's' on the end.


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And surely the North Berks Div One is not Step 8, but actually at 'Step 9' - i.e. notionally below the Oxfordshire Senior League Division One.


I don't this would be right, the N Berks appears to be outside the NLS, not a feeder to the Oxon Senior. If it was it would be the biggest case of the tail wagging the dog I can remember.

Is there anything in evidence which states this relationship?


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When you click into view the Teesside League Division One table the level says Step 8 - it is at Step 7.

The opposite applies to the Sussex County Division Three which is not Step 7.


Teesside hasn't got step 7 status this season either. You're correct in that they should both be at the same level though - both level 11 irrespective of their official step allocation.
I've been going through all the leagues on the site checking tables, links, etc. I'm currently down to Middlesex at the step 7 and lower section. I'll change these leagues when I can (I think this is something I can change).


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When you click into view the Teesside League Division One table the level says Step 8 - it is at Step 7.

The opposite applies to the Sussex County Division Three which is not Step 7.


Teesside hasn't got step 7 status this season either. You're correct in that they should both be at the same level though - both level 11 irrespective of their official step allocation.
I've been going through all the leagues on the site checking tables, links, etc. I'm currently down to Middlesex at the step 7 and lower section. I'll change these leagues when I can (I think this is something I can change).


The Teesside League was awarded Step 7 status at the beginning of the 2012-13 season and this was confirmed when the FA released the list of leagues it deemed to be Step 7.

The league were stripped of that status at the beginnign of the next season (2013-14), primarily I believe due to not having the required 14 teams minimum in its top division.

However the league released a statement on their website back in July-ish last year, i.e. before the start of the 2014-15 season, saying something along the lines of 'We are very pleased to be able to report that the FA have reinstated our official Step 7 status'.

So were they misinformed?


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The Teesside League was awarded Step 7 status at the beginning of the 2012-13 season and this was confirmed when the FA released the list of leagues it deemed to be Step 7.

The league were stripped of that status at the beginnign of the next season (2013-14), primarily I believe due to not having the required 14 teams minimum in its top division.

However the league released a statement on their website back in July-ish last year, i.e. before the start of the 2014-15 season, saying something along the lines of 'We are very pleased to be able to report that the FA have reinstated our official Step 7 status'.

So were they misinformed?


I don't know. The FA handbook lists the step 7/7A/7B leagues and Teesside aren't in it but the handbook is done in April. We may as well wait for the new handbook and next season before worrying too much about this.


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The Teesside League was awarded Step 7 status at the beginning of the 2012-13 season and this was confirmed when the FA released the list of leagues it deemed to be Step 7.

The league were stripped of that status at the beginnign of the next season (2013-14), primarily I believe due to not having the required 14 teams minimum in its top division.

However the league released a statement on their website back in July-ish last year, i.e. before the start of the 2014-15 season, saying something along the lines of 'We are very pleased to be able to report that the FA have reinstated our official Step 7 status'.

So were they misinformed?


I don't know. The FA handbook lists the step 7/7A/7B leagues and Teesside aren't in it but the handbook is done in April. We may as well wait for the new handbook and next season before worrying too much about this.


Haven't seen the handbook but if you look at the following link

http://www.thefa.com/...ues/league-steps-1-7

Towards the bottom of that page are three downloads, the last of which is a PDF showing the National League System structure for 14/15, and the Teesside League are included, so they may have been added back into Step 7 after the handbook was created?


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The Teesside League was awarded Step 7 status at the beginning of the 2012-13 season and this was confirmed when the FA released the list of leagues it deemed to be Step 7.

The league were stripped of that status at the beginnign of the next season (2013-14), primarily I believe due to not having the required 14 teams minimum in its top division.

However the league released a statement on their website back in July-ish last year, i.e. before the start of the 2014-15 season, saying something along the lines of 'We are very pleased to be able to report that the FA have reinstated our official Step 7 status'.

So were they misinformed?


I don't know. The FA handbook lists the step 7/7A/7B leagues and Teesside aren't in it but the handbook is done in April. We may as well wait for the new handbook and next season before worrying too much about this.


Haven't seen the handbook but if you look at the following link

http://www.thefa.com/...ues/league-steps-1-7

Towards the bottom of that page are three downloads, the last of which is a PDF showing the National League System structure for 14/15, and the Teesside League are included, so they may have been added back into Step 7 after the handbook was created?


That's fair enough. I'll sort this out tonight. Just off to work now.


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Just a note before anyone points it out.
The Hellenic League Premier Division on this site is correct. The official league website has an incorrect result listed for Cheltenham Saracens v Highworth Town (0-5) so their goal difference column is incorrect. The correct score was 0-6. They have it as 0-6 on Mitoo.


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Where are the playoff fixtures and results reported on the main site?



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Where are the playoff fixtures and results reported on the main site?

I asked this question earlier in the season, and was told there is no place on the main site.

http://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/...;;page=unread#unread


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St Neots Town Saints have been deducted a further 8 points in UCL1. 1 point deducted for playing ineligible player against Blackstones on 25 February 2015
7 points deducted for team sheet irregularities against Blackstones on 25 February 2015 and Lutterworth on 28 February 2015


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St Neots Town Saints have been deducted a further 8 points in UCL1. 1 point deducted for playing ineligible player against Blackstones on 25 February 2015
7 points deducted for team sheet irregularities against Blackstones on 25 February 2015 and Lutterworth on 28 February 2015


I noticed these yesterday and have changed the table.


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Another league where the table on here appears to be more accurate than the table on the official league website is the Staffordshire County Senior League.
The official table is missing results from games that were played in November in the Premier Division. I haven't bothered checking the other divisions at the moment. I'll come back to this league when I've finished 'auditing' the other step 7+ leagues.


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Another league where the table on here appears to be more accurate than the table on the official league website is the Staffordshire County Senior League.
The official table is missing results from games that were played in November in the Premier Division. I haven't bothered checking the other divisions at the moment. I'll come back to this league when I've finished 'auditing' the other step 7+ leagues.

I've been working on this one throughout the season, picking up results from various sources, and I think I'm about three Prem Div games short. For the first few weeks, I let a league rep on Twitter know about the website errors, and they got corrected. But then that Twitter account appeared to be unused.
For the two division two teams, which completed last Sat, I've not seen any announcement about the two games (one D2N and one D2S) being given default home wins until yesterday, but the website table was consistent with this having happened. So I recorded 99-0 for them each.
Prem Div appears to have completed yesterday, and I'll look at that next.
Then Div One on next Saturday.


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Further to Staffs County Senior League Prem Div problems, the games I'm short of are:
Kidsgrove res v AFC Hanley (scheduled for 15 Nov)
Abbey Hulton v Wolstanton
AFC Leek Town v Brereton Social

Also, a very recent one:
Hilton Harriers v AFC Hanley (scheduled for 2 May)

If anyone has any details of any of these, please reply.


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Quick result. One of the outstanding SCSL games is now scheduled for next week. It's possible that may be the case with others.

Isn't Twitter wonderful!


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Now got them all. One walkover, one result, and two still to be played. I'll get the main site updated shortly.


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Deserve an oatcake AND a pikelet.



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Now got them all. One walkover, one result, and two still to be played. I'll get the main site updated shortly.


It's leagues like this that benefit from the FA's FullTime system as the results and tables virtually run themselves. I see the official Staffs website still has Hilton harriers on 29 games played, ours has them on 32.
Me and HitchinJohn had all sorts of fun trying to sort out the Liverpool County League a while ago as their tables were different to ours and we couldn't work out why. They use the FullTime system though so we've tallied our tables up with that rather than the league's Pitchero site.


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Deserve an oatcake AND a pikelet.

Deserve is not the same as get. But the thought's nice. :)


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It's leagues like this that benefit from the FA's FullTime system as the results and tables virtually run themselves. I see the official Staffs website still has Hilton harriers on 29 games played, ours has them on 32.

I've been picking up missing results for SCSL all through the season from a variety of places, including twitter feeds of the various clubs, press reports, match reports on the league website even though the website hasn't had the result, and in one case attending the match.


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WMRL Div Two - Bilbrook's results need to be expunged from the table.


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WMRL Div Two - Bilbrook's results need to be expunged from the table.


The above has been actioned and NLM and FA Full Time agree - eventually - several errors all involving Silk Hunters.


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Humber Premier League Premier Division - Hornsea Town have been deducted 3 points, best guess but not certain knowledge failure to complete fixture (although the match is scheduled now for Saturday 16th May)


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Humber Premier League Premier Division - Hornsea Town have been deducted 3 points, best guess but not certain knowledge failure to complete fixture (although the match is scheduled now for Saturday 16th May)


Points deduction made, will be looking for result on the 16th, unless we have another PP and another 3 points deducted.


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Another league where the table on the website and Full-Time don't match.

West Sussex League Premier Division.

Sep 13th - Ockley v Holbrook - listed as 4-2 on the website, 4-3 on Full-Time
Dec 6th - Henfield v Wittering United - 7-0 on the website, 7-1 on Full-Time.

Thankfully Ockley tweeted the result at the time as 4-2. With that in mind I'm going for 7-0 for the other game. If anyone knows any different please let me know.


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Missing result to complete the Wiltshire League - Melksham Town Reserves 3-2 Shrewton United (May 7th 2015)


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Missing result to complete Oxfordshire Senior Prem

Riverside v Oxford University Press (game award to Oxford Univeristy Press) - 9th May 2015.


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Missing result to complete the Wiltshire League - Melksham Town Reserves 3-2 Shrewton United (May 7th 2015)

I've added this result now.
Also, I've reversed the 2nd May result for Westbury v Devizes from 2-3 to 3-2 to conform with the Full-Time website results.
As a result of both of these changes, the end of season table here on NLM now matches that on the Full-Time site.

Many thanks!


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Missing result to complete Oxfordshire Senior Prem

Riverside v Oxford University Press (game award to Oxford Univeristy Press) - 9th May 2015.

Thanks again.
Applied this one too, and now the NLM and full-time tables match.


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Another league where the table on here appears to be more accurate than the table on the official league website is the Staffordshire County Senior League.
The official table is missing results from games that were played in November in the Premier Division. I haven't bothered checking the other divisions at the moment. I'll come back to this league when I've finished 'auditing' the other step 7+ leagues.

Further to my earlier reply, I've now looked at all results from the four divisions of this league. The league website has now been updated with all missing results, but there are still a number of anomalies.
There are many matches for which the league website has quoted a different scoreline (sometimes even a different result) from that which it gives in its daily summary of matches in the news section. I've checked quite a number of these differences, looking at club websites, club twitter feeds, and checking with individuals, and for each match I've checked, the league has got the review correct, and the result wrong. I've therefore used the review as definitive in all such cases. The games affected by this are:
Prem Div
8 Nov Eccleshall v Hilton 0-3 (website gives result as 0-1)
29 Nov Redgate v Kidsgrove 6-0 (website result 6-1)
20 Apr MMU v Ball Haye 5-3 (website result 5-1)
Div 1
21 Mar Betley v Keele 2-2 (website result 0-2)
Div 2N
30 Aug Florence v Tunstall 2-4 (website result 3-4)
7 Feb LAFC v Eastwood 2-0 (website result 4-2)
14 Mar Florence v Betley 2-1 (website result 3-1)
Div 2S
7 Feb Cannock v Stone 0-3 (website result 0-4)
28 Feb Hawkins v Whittington 2-2 (website result 3-8)

A further difference:
Prem
19 Nov Brereton v Hilton 1-3 (website 1-2) I've picked up the 1-3 scoreline from Hilton's twitter feed, which is usually very reliable.

There are four matches over the divisions in which three points have been awarded without the game being played. None of these are mentioned on the website, but the tables are consistent with this having happened - and I've checked with one of the clubs concerned that this indeed did happen.


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To complete the Hampshire Premier League Division One...

Lyndhurst v Upham which was postponed in April - the match and 3 points have been awarded to the away side, Upham.


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To complete the Hampshire Premier League Division One...

Lyndhurst v Upham which was postponed in April - the match and 3 points have been awarded to the away side, Upham.


Thanks for the above.

It would be nice if other leagues with outstanding fixtures would do as the above.

Was hoping to produce a list according to my records.


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Update, or rather lack of update, on the Staffs County Senior League discrepancies:

I sent a note to the League last week, using the link on their website, mentioning these discrepancies, with full details of the most significant of them (3-8 or 2-2). But so far, no response and no apparent change on the website. The website is even showing one team playing two matches on the same day at the same time.

I will post here, should I hear anything, or notice any changes.


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Although not yet updated on the North Bucks website or full-time, Loughton Manor have reported that the one remaining game in the division involving themselves and Potterspury was indeed played last Tuesday as scheduled. They needed to win by a 3 goal margin to take the title from Potterspury, but the final result was in fact a 2-2 draw.

There are five other games at Step 7 that are not scheduled to be played now so we will have to wait and see what happens to them

Borden Village v Bredhurst Juniors in Kent Co Prem
Lawford Lads v Tollesbury in ESBL Prem
Buckhurst Hill v Newham United in the Eessex Olympian Prem
Mortimer v Unity in the Thames Valley Prem
Kirby Muxloe Reserves v Melton Mowbray in the Leicestershire Prem

I'd imagine none of these games will now take place so points may well have to be awarded at some stage.

One division I have no no idea what they'll do is the Kent County League Div One West where three game are unplayed. Two of those games involve Halstead United (1st), and Peckham Town (3rd), but just one point behind. The table cannot stay as it is so either the games must be played or points awarded, otherwise a champion cannot be declared.


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Nothing yet from Leics County FA on the Kirby Res v Melton game but it is hard to see it being played now and I expect the visitors to be awarded the points.


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Although not yet updated on the North Bucks website or full-time, Loughton Manor have reported that the one remaining game in the division involving themselves and Potterspury was indeed played last Tuesday as scheduled. They needed to win by a 3 goal margin to take the title from Potterspury, but the final result was in fact a 2-2 draw.

Have updated NLM with the above, thanks. Will continue to check other outstanding fixtures regularly


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Borden Village v Bredhurst Juniors in Kent Co Prem
Buckhurst Hill v Newham United in the Eessex Olympian Prem
Mortimer v Unity in the Thames Valley Prem
Kirby Muxloe Reserves v Melton Mowbray in the Leicestershire Prem
Farnborough v Long Lane, Kent County Div 1W
Peckham v Belvedere, Kent County Div 1W
Halstead United v Phoenix Sports, Kent County Div 1W
Ventus/Yeadon Celtic v Bradford Horton Sports West Riding Div 1
Golcar United Reserves v Littletown Reserves. West Riding Div 2.
Nicholas Wanderers v Lebeq, Bristol Premier Combination

Staffs County League - leaving drawoh to sort out.


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Tollesbury v Lawford - points awarded to Tollesbury


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Tollesbury v Lawford - points awarded to Tollesbury


I had picked this up last evening and updated NLM, but had not updated the above posting.

No movement on any of the others, the LEIC site has now disappeared for the new version and Staffordshire has discrepancies in all leagues. I was hoping drawoh was going to be able to resolve. Not a lot of help from the Staffordshire officials.


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WMRL - full time updated - both outstanding games now showing as 0-0 draws with points awarded as such.


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WMRL - full time updated - both outstanding games now showing as 0-0 draws with points awarded as such.

Thanks! Results added.


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I was hoping drawoh was going to be able to resolve. Not a lot of help from the Staffordshire officials.

I've made another attempt to contact the league by a different route this morning, and hope to get a response. Meanwhile, I've checked further with various clubs, and am pretty confident that I've got the answer for six of the questionable results.


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Barnstaple Town have been awarded the points for the Devizes Town no-show


http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/Toolstation-Western-League-awards-Barnstaple-Town/story-26553470-detail/story.html


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Barnstaple Town have been awarded the points for the Devizes Town no-show


http://www.northdevonjournal.co.uk/Toolstation-Western-League-awards-Barnstaple-Town/story-26553470-detail/story.html


Thanks, have updated NLM 99-0, hope the Western League & Full Time catch up with my action.


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In the Hellenic Division One East the league have the result of Woodley v Headington on 18th April listed as 3-1 on their website. It was 3-3. Mitoo and NLM have the correct score and table.


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List updated 24 May

Buckhurst Hill v Newham United in the Eessex Olympian Prem
Mortimer v Unity in the Thames Valley Prem
Kirby Muxloe Reserves v Melton Mowbray in the Leicestershire Prem. Outstanding fixture is going to the FA. Kirby Res offered Melton a date which they refused, it's laughable but could mean the difference between the home club staying up or being deducted more points for failure to fulfil and going down. (Kirby Knitters) Add 24 May
Farnborough v Long Lane, Kent County Div 1W
Peckham v Belvedere, Kent County Div 1W
Ventus/Yeadon Celtic v Bradford Horton Sports West Riding Div 1. Ventus/Yeadon have had 3 points deducted without a reason given although this game was A-A. Have deducted the 3 points. The fixture has not been closed.
Golcar United Reserves v Littletown Reserves. West Riding Div 2.
Nicholas Wanderers v Lebeq, Bristol Premier Combination
Richings Park v Barley Mow East Berkshire Div 1 Add 24 May

Staffs County League - leaving drawoh to resolve discrepancies

Borden Village v Bredhurst Juniors in Kent Co Prem, Away win NLM updated 24/5
Halstead United v Phoenix Sports, Kent County Div 1W Home win NLM updated 26/5
Barnstaple AAC v Torridgeside North Devon Premier, 0-4 NLM updated 26/5


No change 21.30 31 May


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Staffs County League - leaving drawoh to resolve discrepancies

I think it's time to call it a day with this one.

I've had no response from the league to either of my messages. However, I've had confirmation of many of my suspicions about incorrect results on the league website from various sources, mostly from the league clubs themselves.

Just one of my suspicions proved to be unfounded. I could find no corroborating evidence for two of the results, and so have left them as given on the league website. However, for the rest, I've recorded different results here on NLM from those that are shown on the league site, as these changes are all supported from at least two different sources.

Differences between results (and corresponding tables) here on NML are:

Prem Div:
8 Nov Eccleshall 0 Hilton 3 (0-1 on the league website)
19 Nov Brereton 1 Hilton 3 (1-2 on league website)
20 Apr MMU 5 Ball Haye Green 3 (5-1 on league website)

Div 1:
21 Mar Betley 2 Keele Uni 2 (0-2 on league website)

Div 2N:
7 Feb LAFC 2 Eastwood Hanley 0 (4-2 on league website)

Div 2S:
7 Feb Cannock 0 Stone OA 4 (0-3 on league website)
28 Feb Hawkins 2 Whittinton 2 (3-8 on league website - on 10 Jan)

A further problem on the league website concerns the two default wins, given to Hilton and Cheadle Town in Prem Div. The website has now been updated to mention these default wins, but instead of awarding 3 points to these two clubs, it's mistakenly deducted 3 points from each of them.

The default wins awarded to Market Drayton (Div 2N) are Stone OA (Div 2S) are not yet mentioned on the website, but the points have been awarded correctly.


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I think drawoh you have to go with your findings and accept that you have done as much as is possible to ensure we have the most accurate data available.

Thanks for your time and energy.


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I think we should consider removing this League from the NLM site altogether if they are unable or unwilling to provide reliable information to the press and other third party sources.

By the way, regarding moving onto the new season.... I expect that to start in a week or so. I will send all the Admins an email about it so don't take any actions for now until you hear from me. It's not a particularly 'user friendly' process and some actions cannot be undone so you need to know what can and can't be done before attempting it as I have always done it myself in previous years.

Have a couple of months off and be ready to go when it all kicks off again but if you really cannot do without NLM for June and July I will explain the process to any of you interested when it's time to move the divisions on.

Cheers.... Steve


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I think we should consider removing this League from the NLM site altogether if they are unable or unwilling to provide reliable information to the press and other third party sources.

Cheers.... Steve

I think it would be a pity to remove this league from NLM, as that would make it the only league which has a division at level 11 missing from this site. Yes, it's not easy keeping track of the results, but I think it's worth the effort. I'm certainly prepared to do it.


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By the way, regarding moving onto the new season.... I expect that to start in a week or so. I will send all the Admins an email about it so don't take any actions for now until you hear from me. It's not a particularly 'user friendly' process and some actions cannot be undone so you need to know what can and can't be done before attempting it as I have always done it myself in previous years.


Steve, I'm sure you're aware there's still a couple of weeks to go in the Scottish Juniors season.


Possibly not the right place but for next season could West Lancashire Division Two be added?


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And as the only Step 7 league without its second tier included on the site, could we include the Teesside League Division Two?


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Steve,
as someone who mopped up results towards end of season I can see the point of adding some divisions but feel it would be better if some divisions are deleted/ or not added in first place if people who put them on originally cant keep them upto date !
Lower reaches of South Devon / York spring to mind. York bottom division still baffles me.



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I think as a starting point we should have all the divisions that are notionally (or officially) at Steps 7 and 8


So firstly get rid of the following:
Liverpool Co Prem League D2
West Cheshire D2
Cheshire D2
West Riding D2
South Devon One to Five
York League D2 to Four
Notts Senior D2
Beds Div Two and Three
Aldershot & Dist League
East Berks League both divisions


and replace them with the missing divisions that are effectively Step 8 - as they do directly feed Step 7 divisions


So that would be
Doncaster & District Senior League Prem (feeder to CML)
Durham Alliance (feeds Wearside League)
Salisbury & Dist Prem, Swindon & Dist Prem, Trowbridge & Dist Prem (all 3 of them feed the Wiltshire League at Step 7 as a result of D1's demise)
Aylesbury & Dist Prem, Wycombe & Dist Prem (feeders to SSML D2)
Lincolnshire League (feeder to CML)


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The Aldershot & District feeds step 7. Headley United are the most recent team to get promoted from it. They went to the Hampshire Premier Senior Division leapfrogging the newly formed Division One.
I've just noticed the link on this site goes to the wrong place though. (Now changed).

Like Hoddy, I started going through all the leagues checking results and stuff after Hitchin John's appeal. As I've always been the editor of the Aldershot League I didn't bother checking the other details of that league!

I agree that everything down to what would be step 8 should be included.


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Can't argue with that.
Unless anyone wishes to add others AND keep them upto date. I may add Crewe & District.

Re York League, can anyone explain D4 to me, specifically 25/04.
14-00. Settrington 0 v Bubwith 1 . League game.
15-15. Settrington 2 v Bubwith 0 . League game.
There are other instances, sure we've been here before (not looking) , obviously double headers ? Second one counts as a Bubwith home game ?
Both appear on Ful-Time and the League website. Gave up on York League when mopping up results.



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As Hoddy and VP, I've also been checking wherever possible.

I agree that everything down to Level 12 (would be step 8 if steps continued that far) should be included.

Beyond that an idea would be to include divisions only if someone is prepared to be an editor for that league. Very few at level 13 and below have editors at the moment.


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Can't argue with that.
Unless anyone wishes to add others AND keep them upto date. I may add Crewe & District.

Re York League, can anyone explain D4 to me, specifically 25/04.
14-00. Settrington 0 v Bubwith 1 . League game.
15-15. Settrington 2 v Bubwith 0 . League game.
There are other instances, sure we've been here before (not looking) , obviously double headers ? Second one counts as a Bubwith home game ?
Both appear on Ful-Time and the League website. Gave up on York League when mopping up results.


Teams play each other three times in that division. There were two home games and one away for Settrington v Bubwith. The game at Bubwith was in December.


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Re York League, can anyone explain D4 to me, specifically 25/04.
14-00. Settrington 0 v Bubwith 1 . League game.
15-15. Settrington 2 v Bubwith 0 . League game.

Sound so like SCSL, in which the league website has one team playing in two different places at the same time on the same afternoon. Quite a relief to find that SCSL isn't the only one.


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Teams play each other three times in that division. There were two home games and one away for Settrington v Bubwith. The game at Bubwith was in December.


Knew we had been there before , must try and remember in future. Hopefully wont be in fixtures/ results section next season.
By the way were they being listed on our fixtures as 2 different home games , with different k/o's. Didn't pay much attention that low down the food chain.



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I'm having a mop up and still finding the odd points deduction so we need the tables on here a little while longer.
Steps 1-4 are done. I've nearly finished steps 5 & 6. Just found a late deuction in the SSML.


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Teams play each other three times in that division. There were two home games and one away for Settrington v Bubwith. The game at Bubwith was in December.


Knew we had been there before , must try and remember in future. Hopefully wont be in fixtures/ results section next season.
By the way were they being listed on our fixtures as 2 different home games , with different k/o's. Didn't pay much attention that low down the food chain.


I don't know. Kick off times can be a bit vague below step 6 as I'm sure you're aware. It's only since I've been doing this that I realised how much I like the Full-Time system. I know it's reliant on correct info being input but everything we need is there.


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I don't know. Kick off times can be a bit vague below step 6 as I'm sure you're aware. It's only since I've been doing this that I realised how much I like the Full-Time system. I know it's reliant on correct info being input but everything we need is there.


I differ VP. Looking after my local teams website I 'm forever chasing up the 2 leagues that are covered on Full=Time to correct things.
Appreciate this is faulty input by club secs , but having to get results/scores/scorers sent to Full Time ASAP after game is prone to errors.
Another annoying thing is changes , eg , the Cheshire League top division became the Premier Div this season , but now it appears in all previous seasons as Premier NOT Div 1.
So games played before season 2014/15 are now all in incorrect divisions Angelic



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I'm having a mop up and still finding the odd points deduction so we need the tables on here a little while longer.
Steps 1-4 are done. I've nearly finished steps 5 & 6. Just found a late deuction in the SSML.


I hope you don't find many more points deductions as I continually check but appreciate some very late decisions can change the tables even after all fixtures have been completed.

The list of outstanding fixtures listed on an earlier posting remains unchanged.


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Another annoying thing is changes , eg , the Cheshire League top division became the Premier Div this season , but now it appears in all previous seasons as Premier NOT Div 1.
So games played before season 2014/15 are now all in incorrect divisions Angelic



I can't do anything about this without a software change. If you change the name of a League, a Division or indeed of a team then it changes the name in previous seasons too. It's one of the things that simply didn't occur to me when I wrote the specification for the software.

I don't know what I'm going to do with the Conference / National League name change.


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I think Hoddy was referring to Full-Time which also exhibits this behaviour by default


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I don't know what I'm going to do with the Conference / National League name change.


There have been a few name changes in the leagues in the past season or two so the Conference won't be any different. The only issue with this site on that side of things is why some divisions aren't in the correct order in the list. The Sheffield & Hallamshire League for instance where Division Two is above the other two. I've looked at it and I think you have as well. Dunno how to fix that.


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I think Hoddy was referring to Full-Time which also exhibits this behaviour by default


Yes I was referring to Full-Time.



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The Aldershot & District feeds step 7. Headley United are the most recent team to get promoted from it. They went to the Hampshire Premier Senior Division leapfrogging the newly formed Division One.
I've just noticed the link on this site goes to the wrong place though. (Now changed).

I wouldn;t agree with that VP. 6 of the 9 teams currently in the top division of the Aldershot & District League are based in Surrey, and their progression route would be via the Surrey pyramid. As far as I am aware the Aldershot & District League does NOT feed the Step 7 Surrey Elite Intermediate League. That league only has promotion and relegation agreements in place with the Surrey Sout Eastern Combination and the Surrey County League (Western). Bottom four from the SEIL go down to be replaced with the top two from those two leagues.

Only Wey Valley (from Bordon) and Fleet Spurs Reserves from the 14/15 season were based in Hampshire. Well Yateley United Reserves are also Hampshire but their first team is already in the Surrey pyramid. And if Wey had won the division and wanted to progress, I could not see them being allowed straight into the Hampshire Premier, any more than I could see them going straight into the Surrey Elite. Hampshire Div One would be the likely place...

Headley United were simply an anomoly and were probably let straight into the Premier because of their previous association with the league, having played in the HPL (when it was a single division) only 3 years previously in 2010 and having a superior setup/ground.

And to be fair, they rejoined the HPL the same season that Div One was created, so saying they leapfrogged Div One, is a bit of a stretch. The Prem was one short so they filled the gap. If it had been full Headley would have joined as founder members of Div One.

So I fail to see how this League directly feeds into Step 7.


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The Aldershot & District feeds step 7. Headley United are the most recent team to get promoted from it. They went to the Hampshire Premier Senior Division leapfrogging the newly formed Division One.
I've just noticed the link on this site goes to the wrong place though. (Now changed).

I wouldn;t agree with that VP. 6 of the 9 teams currently in the top division of the Aldershot & District League are based in Surrey, and their progression route would be via the Surrey pyramid. As far as I am aware the Aldershot & District League does NOT feed the Step 7 Surrey Elite Intermediate League. That league only has promotion and relegation agreements in place with the Surrey Sout Eastern Combination and the Surrey County League (Western). Bottom four from the SEIL go down to be replaced with the top two from those two leagues.

Only Wey Valley (from Bordon) and Fleet Spurs Reserves from the 14/15 season were based in Hampshire. Well Yateley United Reserves are also Hampshire but their first team is already in the Surrey pyramid. And if Wey had won the division and wanted to progress, I could not see them being allowed straight into the Hampshire Premier, any more than I could see them going straight into the Surrey Elite. Hampshire Div One would be the likely place...

Headley United were simply an anomoly and were probably let straight into the Premier because of their previous association with the league, having played in the HPL (when it was a single division) only 3 years previously in 2010 and having a superior setup/ground.

And to be fair, they rejoined the HPL the same season that Div One was created, so saying they leapfrogged Div One, is a bit of a stretch. The Prem was one short so they filled the gap. If it had been full Headley would have joined as founder members of Div One.

So I fail to see how this League directly feeds into Step 7.


There have always been teams from the different counties in the Surrey, Hampshire and Berkshire based leagues in these parts. Teams in the Aldershot League can apply to join the Surrey Elite if they want - Old Farnboronians (from Hampshire!) went down that route in 2011 but the Aldershot League handbook specifically mentions the Hampshire Premier League.

This season's HPL handbook says "The bottom two Clubs in the Senior Division will be relegated. Each relegated Club will be allocated either to the Division One or to a Competition recommended as most appropriate by the Joint Liaison Committee. Two Clubs will be promoted to the Senior Division from the Division One or from a Competition recommended as most appropriate by the Joint Liaison Committee providing that each Club is either the Champion Club or Runner-up Club and has the necessary grading criteria."
And "(B) All promotions and demotions shall be determined and agreed within the workings of the Hampshire Inter-Leagues Conference"

There's no mention of promotion to or relegation from their Division One.
As well as Aldershot, there are a few other leagues in similar postions - Bournemouth & Portsmouth for example.

It's the same as the way Sussex Division Three used to work - one divisions covering the whole county and others at the same level covering smaller areas. It may not make sense or create straight lines in the pyramid but that's what happens.


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In the Leics Sen League Prem Kirby Muxloe Res have been deducted a further 3 points to failure to fulfil home game with Melton this leaves the club in the bottom 2 however the deduction is subject to an appeal by the club and it will be heard at County FA on June 29th.


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In the Leics Sen League Prem Kirby Muxloe Res have been deducted a further 3 points to failure to fulfil home game with Melton this leaves the club in the bottom 2 however the deduction is subject to an appeal by the club and it will be heard at County FA on June 29th.

Applied. I guess three points will be awarded to Melton Mowbray in due course. Let us know if you see it before we do,


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List checked 5 Jun 2015
Buckhurst Hill v Newham United in the Eessex Olympian Prem
Mortimer v Unity in the Thames Valley Prem
Kirby Muxloe Reserves v Melton Mowbray in the Leicestershire Prem. Outstanding fixture is going to the FA. Kirby Res offered Melton a date which they refused, it's laughable but could mean the difference between the home club staying up or being deducted more points for failure to fulfil and going down. (Kirby Knitters) Revised comments noted from previous posting 2 Jun
Farnborough v Long Lane, Kent County Div 1W
Peckham v Belvedere, Kent County Div 1W
Nicholas Wanderers v Lebeq, Bristol Premier Combination
Richings Park v Barley Mow East Berkshire Div 1
Staffs County League - leaving drawoh to resolve discrepancies

Ventus/Yeadon Celtic v Bradford Horton Sports West Riding Div 1. 9 May 2015 H-W awarded Updated 5 Jun
Golcar United Reserves v Littletown Reserves West Riding Div 2. 9 May 2015 H-W awarded Updated 5 Jun

I assume we have to accept that these fixtures will remain unfulfilled and the relative league tables will remain looking incomplete, the Leicestershire Prem may be the exception subject to results of appeal.

A note could be added above the respective league table, "outstanding fixture(s) not played" before Steve draws the curtain down, otherwise it could be assumed the result was missed by a NLM editor.


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Presumably the curtain won't come down until the final Scottish Junior league game has been played. So until then we can keep an eye on all those in your list, Hitchin-John, and make updates if any are changed.

Thereafter, yes, as you say, tables will have to look incomplete.


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Presumably the curtain won't come down until the final Scottish Junior league game has been played. So until then we can keep an eye on all those in your list, Hitchin-John, and make updates if any are changed.

Thereafter, yes, as you say, tables will have to look incomplete.



No it doesn't work that way. A new season is created and then the Leagues are moved on to the new season individually. After a League is moved onto the new season then you are quite right, we cannot make any adjustments to the previous season.

For example we could move the Conference or whatever it's called now, onto 2015/16 today. It wouldn't affect the ability to add results to Scottish Juniors or to edit the issues in Johns post UNLESS those Leagues had also individually been moved onto the new season themselves. It's an irreversible process moving a League on and cannot be undone.

Hope that explains.


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As was suggested, I have added an exclusive forum section for NLM main site Editors and Admins for this type of discussion. Please PM me for access. Thanks

Looks as if it's open to all, Steve, even those not logged in.


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Yes it might be a bit trial error this one. I didn't add a private forum section before. I will see if I can give you access and see what happens


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In the Leics Sen League Prem Kirby Muxloe Res have been deducted a further 3 points to failure to fulfil home game with Melton this leaves the club in the bottom 2 however the deduction is subject to an appeal by the club and it will be heard at County FA on June 29th.

If my memory serves me right, didn't KM reserves deny MM the title the season before last. When they filled the team with 1st team players. So MM denying them the opportunity to play the canceled game. Could be looked on as spiteful payback.



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Presumably the curtain won't come down until the final Scottish Junior league game has been played. So until then we can keep an eye on all those in your list, Hitchin-John, and make updates if any are changed.

Thereafter, yes, as you say, tables will have to look incomplete.



No it doesn't work that way. A new season is created and then the Leagues are moved on to the new season individually. After a League is moved onto the new season then you are quite right, we cannot make any adjustments to the previous season.

For example we could move the Conference or whatever it's called now, onto 2015/16 today. It wouldn't affect the ability to add results to Scottish Juniors or to edit the issues in Johns post UNLESS those Leagues had also individually been moved onto the new season themselves. It's an irreversible process moving a League on and cannot be undone.

Hope that explains.


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Scaffolding Up!

The scaffolding has gone up around the site as it gets prepared for the new 2014/15 season. Don't report any strange goings on for now until the dust settles, hopefully by the end of July. If you want to edit a League for 2014/15 then you are most welcome.... please click the Big Red Button on the league of your choice and your Editor account will be set up before the new season starts. Thanks..... Steve

I think the above message from 25 Jun 2014 does imply that curtain came down.


Although I now understand your comments above.


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Scaffolding Up!

The scaffolding has gone up around the site as it gets prepared for the new 2014/15 season. Don't report any strange goings on for now until the dust settles, hopefully by the end of July. If you want to edit a League for 2014/15 then you are most welcome.... please click the Big Red Button on the league of your choice and your Editor account will be set up before the new season starts. Thanks..... Steve

I think the above message from 25 Jun 2014 does imply that curtain came down.


Although I now understand your comments above.



That was more aimed at the site users John. They may see the wrong maps and mileage charts. If they catch a League that is in the middle of being moved on they may see the wrong teams in it for the new season.... stuff like that.


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Its hit the fan in the Cheshire League Premier Div.
Billinge deducted 3 points at meeting last night (Wed 3rd) for using an ineligible player.

Good news for Denton as it saves them being relegated but demotes Billinge.

Cheshire League Full Time table shows points adjustment and season 2015/16 division line ups have been altered accordingly.



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Its hit the fan in the Cheshire League Premier Div.
Billinge deducted 3 points at meeting last night (Wed 3rd) for using an ineligible player.

Good news for Denton as it saves them being relegated but demotes Billinge.

Cheshire League Full Time table shows points adjustment and season 2015/16 division line ups have been altered accordingly.

Applied here on NML main site tables too, now.


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Another league where the table on the official website is wrong due to an incorrect result. Western League Premier Division. They have Bitton v Buckland on 21st Feb as 1-4. It was 1-3 according to both club's websites.

In Division One Westbury United v Chippenham Park on 10th Jan is recorded as 1-3 on the league website, 0-3 on here. Westbury's Twitter confirms 0-3 (retweeted by Chippenham), but Chippenham's website says 1-3. Being Pitchero that could have been filled in by someone who had Western League admin status though.
I'm leaving it as 0-3 for now unless anyone knows any different.

As far as I'm aware everything from steps 1-6 is completely up to date now. I can't see there being any more points deductions now.


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List checked 5 Jun 2015
Buckhurst Hill v Newham United in the Eessex Olympian Prem
Mortimer v Unity in the Thames Valley Prem
Kirby Muxloe Reserves v Melton Mowbray in the Leicestershire Prem. Outstanding fixture is going to the FA. Kirby Res offered Melton a date which they refused, it's laughable but could mean the difference between the home club staying up or being deducted more points for failure to fulfil and going down. (Kirby Knitters) Revised comments noted from previous posting 2 Jun
Farnborough v Long Lane, Kent County Div 1W
Peckham v Belvedere, Kent County Div 1W
Nicholas Wanderers v Lebeq, Bristol Premier Combination
Richings Park v Barley Mow East Berkshire Div 1
Staffs County League - leaving drawoh to resolve discrepancies

Ventus/Yeadon Celtic v Bradford Horton Sports West Riding Div 1. 9 May 2015 H-W awarded Updated 5 Jun
Golcar United Reserves v Littletown Reserves West Riding Div 2. 9 May 2015 H-W awarded Updated 5 Jun

I assume we have to accept that these fixtures will remain unfulfilled and the relative league tables will remain looking incomplete, the Leicestershire Prem may be the exception subject to results of appeal.

A note could be added above the respective league table, "outstanding fixture(s) not played" before Steve draws the curtain down, otherwise it could be assumed the result was missed by a NLM editor.


Kent Co League have finally awarded the points in the unplayed games.

Long Lane and Peckham Town have been awarded the 3 points. With runners up position up for grabs they couldn't leave the Peckham game like it was. They rightfully take second.


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Kent Co League have finally awarded the points in the unplayed games.

Long Lane and Peckham Town have been awarded the 3 points. With runners up position up for grabs they couldn't leave the Peckham game like it was. They rightfully take second.

I've applied the default wins for Long Lane and Peckham Town.
The two teams who they "beat" each appear to have had one point docked. Do you know the reason? Was it failure to appear, perhaps?
The point deduction for each of these two teams still has to be applied.


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Kent Co League have finally awarded the points in the unplayed games.

Long Lane and Peckham Town have been awarded the 3 points. With runners up position up for grabs they couldn't leave the Peckham game like it was. They rightfully take second.

I've applied the default wins for Long Lane and Peckham Town.
The two teams who they "beat" each appear to have had one point docked. Do you know the reason? Was it failure to appear, perhaps?
The point deduction for each of these two teams still has to be applied.


The Full Time site confirms the reason for the 1 point deduction of both clubs.

I have updated the NLM table.


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Re: Staffs County League.

The League's website has now been updated for the new season, and already one club seems to have been inadvertently missed from the list of clubs for Division One.

This contrasts with last season, when one club was included twice. Before the mistake was corrected last season, the table showed both instances of the club, with all home matches being listed against one, and all away matches against the other. I seem to remember that this club occupied the bottom two places for a while.

Regarding our NML results and tables for last year, I'm happy that what we now have should stand. The league website seems to have lost all record of last season; the results have been deleted, and the archive section is now empty.


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Richings Park v Barley Mow East Berkshire Div 1


I've just had a look into this one.
It was played on September 6th but abandoned due to trouble of some sort. Both clubs mention it on Twitter but neither goes into much detail. The league mentioned Barley Mow's 100% record for the season in a tweet in May and said the game was left unplayed.
I've put a note above the table.


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Sorted out a couple more from the list above. I've added notes to the tables.

Newham United v Buckhurst Hill in the Essex Olympian declared void and left unplayed. Quote from Full-Time - "Both teams were found guilty of causing the match to be abandoned".

Nicholas Wanderers v Lebeq - Bristol Premier Combination also marked as 'void' on the League's Full-Time page. No reason given though.


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In the Leics Sen League Prem Kirby Muxloe Res have been deducted a further 3 points to failure to fulfil home game with Melton this leaves the club in the bottom 2 however the deduction is subject to an appeal by the club and it will be heard at County FA on June 29th.

Appeal now withdrawn.


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In the Leics Sen League Prem Kirby Muxloe Res have been deducted a further 3 points to failure to fulfil home game with Melton this leaves the club in the bottom 2 however the deduction is subject to an appeal by the club and it will be heard at County FA on June 29th.

Appeal now withdrawn.

Quite a successful end of season for the club thenTongueSly



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In the Leics Sen League Prem Kirby Muxloe Res have been deducted a further 3 points to failure to fulfil home game with Melton this leaves the club in the bottom 2 however the deduction is subject to an appeal by the club and it will be heard at County FA on June 29th.

Appeal now withdrawn.

Quite a successful end of season for the club thenTongueSly

Now no reason to go ahead with it.


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In the Leics Sen League Prem Kirby Muxloe Res have been deducted a further 3 points to failure to fulfil home game with Melton this leaves the club in the bottom 2 however the deduction is subject to an appeal by the club and it will be heard at County FA on June 29th.

Appeal now withdrawn.

Quite a successful end of season for the club thenTongueSly

Now no reason to go ahead with it.

Why? Are they staying up now?



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In the Leics Sen League Prem Kirby Muxloe Res have been deducted a further 3 points to failure to fulfil home game with Melton this leaves the club in the bottom 2 however the deduction is subject to an appeal by the club and it will be heard at County FA on June 29th.

Appeal now withdrawn.

Quite a successful end of season for the club thenTongueSly

Now no reason to go ahead with it.

Why? Are they staying up now?

Looking that way yes.


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No section for 15/16 errors/mistakes yet so shall put them here for now

Royal Wootton Bassett should be Royal Wootton Bassett Town in hellenic Premier
Elmore Reserves shoudl just be Elmore as this is their first team this season in the Dev & Exe League
Wessex - picky but Fawley AFC really should just be listed as Fawley.


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No section for 15/16 errors/mistakes yet so shall put them here for now

Royal Wootton Bassett should be Royal Wootton Bassett Town in hellenic Premier
Elmore Reserves shoudl just be Elmore as this is their first team this season in the Dev & Exe League
Wessex - picky but Fawley AFC really should just be listed as Fawley.

Not picky at all. Good to have them right.

I'd picked up the RWB and Fawley names from the leagues' websites, but it's better to have them accurate.

All changed.

Map changes may follow.


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OK as I am allowed to be picky

Two more
Farsley AFC should be Farsley Celtic - club renamed a couple of weeks back
Goole AFC should just be Goole.


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OK as I am allowed to be picky

Two more
Farsley AFC should be Farsley Celtic - club renamed a couple of weeks back
Goole AFC should just be Goole.

Farsely - Fully agree with you. Changed
Goole - While I agree that it would be a better name, the league still uses the AFC suffix, and so does the club itself, both on its website and its twitter feed. So I've left that one alone, for the present.


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OK as I am allowed to be picky

Two more
Farsley AFC should be Farsley Celtic - club renamed a couple of weeks back
Goole AFC should just be Goole.

Farsely - Fully agree with you. Changed
Goole - While I agree that it would be a better name, the league still uses the AFC suffix, and so does the club itself, both on its website and its twitter feed. So I've left that one alone, for the present.


I would argue (not like me I know Wink), that all clubs have an AFC or FC after their name and that Goole's common name, like all other clubs (whether they have a suffix or not) is just Goole. Goole's AFC suffix is no different or more special that any other club's AFC or FC ending...other than the NPL website seems to be obsessed with it.


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OK as I am allowed to be picky

Two more
Farsley AFC should be Farsley Celtic - club renamed a couple of weeks back
Goole AFC should just be Goole.

Farsely - Fully agree with you. Changed
Goole - While I agree that it would be a better name, the league still uses the AFC suffix, and so does the club itself, both on its website and its twitter feed. So I've left that one alone, for the present.


I would argue (not like me I know Wink), that all clubs have an AFC or FC after their name and that Goole's common name, like all other clubs (whether they have a suffix or not) is just Goole. Goole's AFC suffix is no different or more special that any other club's AFC or FC ending...other than the NPL website seems to be obsessed with it.

OK, I'm easily persuaded, even if it takes five days. Goole's now lost its suffix.


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Middlesex County League Division One West.

The table looks to be correct but the first two explanations below appear to be erroneous.

You have three points deducted then subsequently awarded back to New Hanford and Imperial College Old Boys.

Should that not simply read "3 points awarded to" New Hanford and Imperial College Old Boys?


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Middlesex County League Division One West.

The table looks to be correct but the first two explanations below appear to be erroneous.

You have three points deducted then subsequently awarded back to New Hanford and Imperial College Old Boys.

Should that not simply read "3 points awarded to" New Hanford and Imperial College Old Boys?

The software only permits us to deduct points; it won't allow us to add points. Hence it's -3 points deducted. The second sentence was an attempt to clarify, but I can see that it could also cause confusion. I've tried rewording one of the two. Does that look better? (As far as what we are permitted to insert as an explanation, we only have liberty to say what appears after the colon.)


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Middlesex County League Division One West.

The table looks to be correct but the first two explanations below appear to be erroneous.

You have three points deducted then subsequently awarded back to New Hanford and Imperial College Old Boys.

Should that not simply read "3 points awarded to" New Hanford and Imperial College Old Boys?

The software only permits us to deduct points; it won't allow us to add points. Hence it's -3 points deducted. The second sentence was an attempt to clarify, but I can see that it could also cause confusion. I've tried rewording one of the two. Does that look better? (As far as what we are permitted to insert as an explanation, we only have liberty to say what appears after the colon.)


So the first part before the colon is automatically generated?

Perhaps in the case of negative deductions the generated text could be changed to say "points awarded to". Sounds a simple code change via the addition of an if-else test. To be included next time there are modifications?

As for now I think your change looks good, clearer. I like the "in effect".


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... haven't read the recent posts exhaustively BUT from the TABLES/FIXTURES/RESULTS panels this AM there appears to be no Sussex Leagues and selecting either of the SCEL brings up Sussex NOT SCEL??

...or am I missing something obvious? Shocked


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... haven't read the recent posts exhaustively BUT from the TABLES/FIXTURES/RESULTS panels this AM there appears to be no Sussex Leagues and selecting either of the SCEL brings up Sussex NOT SCEL??

...or am I missing something obvious? Shocked

Is it the former Sussex County League which you are referring to?

If so, the league has changed its name to the Southern Combination League, and its divisions can be found by following the appropriate links in the Step 5-6 and Step 7 sections of the main site.

To make matters more complicated, when changing its name, the league also changed the names/numbers of its constituent divisions, thus Division One became Premier Division, Division Two became Division One, etc.

One thing which has remained consistent, is that, as a result of the league using the word Combination in its new title, it kept the same name for its website - http://www.scfl.org.uk/

To find results and tables from previous seasons on this site, follow the links to the new league/division name, and then select a previous season. There will be a note above the list of seasons saying what the previous league/division was called.


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...thanks - so it was me Blush

- not being a Sussex watcher hadn't spotted the name change - which means (sans County tag) that it is now similar to the 'old' Kent League which become Southern Counties East, as opposed to what I clicked on expecting to see it -i.e. the Southern Combination League Premier -

... which notary/panel of blazers came up with that name - with me it merely evokes thoughts of a Reserve section


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Map for Welsh Football League division 1 is coming up with Combined Counties teams and header? Divisions 2 & 3 are fine



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Few corrections

Essex & Suffolk Border League
Wormingford & Colne Engaine Wanderers appear to have de-merged. Colne Engaine are back in the Mid-Essex League - and so the team in Div One should be called Wormingford Wanderers.
Holland (and their reserves in D1) and Barnston dont need FC after their names.

Central Midlands League
Thoresby Colliery Welfare have folded and need to be removed from the North Div table

Dorset Premier
Tintinhull have folded and need to be removed

Essex Olympian
Southminster St Leonards have resigned from the league and need to be removed from D1 table. They have taken their lower ranked teams' places in the Mid Essex League

Leicestershire Senior
In D1 - Asfordby Amateurs have folded and need removing.

Midland D2
Aston have dropped back into the Birmingham & District League, taking their reserves place and so need removing from Midland D2 table.

Middlesex County D1 West
Conquest Football Academy are actually just called Conquest according to FA find a Club.


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Northants Combination
Welford Victoria have folded in the Prem, Heyford Athletic have taken their place.
Gretton have been demoted to D1.

Northern Alliance
Killingworth Station have become Killingworth Town
Shilbottle CW should be Shilbottle Colliery Welfare

Sheffiled & Hallamshire
Joker have folded in Prem, Frecheville CA have be reprieved and taken their place.
In Div One Grimethorpe have not change their name - they should still have Sports in their name.

Staffs Co

LAFC should be Longton Area. Norton Fc should be Norton, Wetley Victoria should be prefixed with AFC. Penridge Town should be Penkridge.


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Thanks for your posts, oftenscore6 and Sarumio.

May not get to them today, but will certainly fix all the problems before too long.


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Map for Welsh Football League division 1 is coming up with Combined Counties teams and header? Divisions 2 & 3 are fine

I've no idea how that happened. I certainly prepared the correct map, but for some reason inserted the wrong one. Should be ok now.

Many thanks for pointing the error out!

I see the mileage chart for that same division is displaying a Not Found 404 message. I'll take that one up with Steve.


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Few corrections

Essex & Suffolk Border League
Wormingford & Colne Engaine Wanderers appear to have de-merged. Colne Engaine are back in the Mid-Essex League - and so the team in Div One should be called Wormingford Wanderers.
Holland (and their reserves in D1) and Barnston dont need FC after their names.

Happy with all those comments. Changes made.

Well, that's a starts. Rest later.


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Central Midlands League
Thoresby Colliery Welfare have folded and need to be removed from the North Div table

Removed the club, and updated the map.

Mileage chart also updated, and passed to Steve for inclusion.

More later.


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Dorset Premier
Tintinhull have folded and need to be removed

Club removed and map revised.

New mileage chart sent to Steve


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Essex Olympian
Southminster St Leonards have resigned from the league and need to be removed from D1 table. They have taken their lower ranked teams' places in the Mid Essex League


Club removed and map revised.



Rest later


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Leicestershire Senior
In D1 - Asfordby Amateurs have folded and need removing.

Team removed; fixtures removed also.


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Midland D2
Aston have dropped back into the Birmingham & District League, taking their reserves place and so need removing from Midland D2 table.

Team removed. Looks as if their fixtures have already been removed.


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Middlesex County D1 West
Conquest Football Academy are actually just called Conquest according to FA find a Club.

Happy to make that change. More sensible name.


drawoh
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Northants Combination
Welford Victoria have folded in the Prem, Heyford Athletic have taken their place.
Gretton have been demoted to D1.

Did that one yesterday.


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Northern Alliance
Killingworth Station have become Killingworth Town
Shilbottle CW should be Shilbottle Colliery Welfare

Changed.


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Sheffiled & Hallamshire
Joker have folded in Prem, Frecheville CA have be reprieved and taken their place.
In Div One Grimethorpe have not change their name - they should still have Sports in their name.

Changed Joker and Frecheville. I'll wait to see confirmation elsewhere about Grimethorpe (Div Two, BTW)

Map and mileage chart for Premier Div to be amended later.


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Staffs Co

LAFC should be Longton Area. Norton Fc should be Norton, Wetley Victoria should be prefixed with AFC. Penridge Town should be Penkridge.

I've made these four changes. I think there are a number of other name changes that could be made in this division, having just compared the leaue's handbook, which I got this weelk, the league's website, and how the teams are commonly referred to.

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Sorry it's taken a while to get around to addressing all your comments.

Thanks again for the info. Keep it coming!

 
 


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