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sjosta
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It is sad how Rangers are struggling.


To whom? After they'd bought their way to umpteen Titles in the past, and in so doing (in my bitter and twisted opinion) impoverished the others.

Hell mend them!

Every team that wins the top league three years in a row should be recycled starting from the bottom again
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Not sure that would be workable. Celtic or Rangers would simply make sure they didn't win the league a third time. Teams throwing matches is hardly the way forward.Incidentally sad is not quite the word I would use either to describe Rangers demise.



Interesting. Who would they throw the league to?



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buckielugger
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Dec 6, 2014, 9:41 PM

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It is sad how Rangers are struggling.


To whom? After they'd bought their way to umpteen Titles in the past, and in so doing (in my bitter and twisted opinion) impoverished the others.

Hell mend them!

Every team that wins the top league three years in a row should be recycled starting from the bottom again.


Pretty much every team that wins every league or cup buys their way to it. That's the nature of PROFESSIONAL football. That's not to say the richest team always wins...but the more money a club has the more often they win. My home team Lincoln City have never had the finances to reach the top level and never will have...but equally we will only get back into the Football League when we are able to buy our way to the Conference title and Imps fans (and fans of all clubs) hope that someone will come along one day and give us a pile of cash.
So don't criticise spending money or having it. I guess it IS fair to criticise spending money you don't have but even then that's a gamble that has to be taken sometimes and occasionally failure will result as it has so badly with Rangers.
And "sad for whom?"....will quite obviously sad for all the vast numbers of lifelong Rangers fans and many others who sympathise with them.
As for demoting teams who win...utter nonsense.

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prorege
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Dec 6, 2014, 10:13 PM

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It is sad how Rangers are struggling.


To whom? After they'd bought their way to umpteen Titles in the past, and in so doing (in my bitter and twisted opinion) impoverished the others.

Hell mend them!

Every team that wins the top league three years in a row should be recycled starting from the bottom again.


Pretty much every team that wins every league or cup buys their way to it. That's the nature of PROFESSIONAL football. That's not to say the richest team always wins...but the more money a club has the more often they win. My home team Lincoln City have never had the finances to reach the top level and never will have...but equally we will only get back into the Football League when we are able to buy our way to the Conference title and Imps fans (and fans of all clubs) hope that someone will come along one day and give us a pile of cash.
So don't criticise spending money or having it. I guess it IS fair to criticise spending money you don't have but even then that's a gamble that has to be taken sometimes and occasionally failure will result as it has so badly with Rangers.
And "sad for whom?"....will quite obviously sad for all the vast numbers of lifelong Rangers fans and many others who sympathise with them.
As for demoting teams who win...utter nonsense.

Discuss



Eh? Nobody sympathises with Rangers. Pure Marmite. Love them of hate them. As for lifelong Rangers supporters - products of bigotry, sectarianism and jingoism.


kirby knitters
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Dec 6, 2014, 10:21 PM

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It is sad how Rangers are struggling.


To whom? After they'd bought their way to umpteen Titles in the past, and in so doing (in my bitter and twisted opinion) impoverished the others.

Hell mend them!

Every team that wins the top league three years in a row should be recycled starting from the bottom again.


Pretty much every team that wins every league or cup buys their way to it. That's the nature of PROFESSIONAL football. That's not to say the richest team always wins...but the more money a club has the more often they win. My home team Lincoln City have never had the finances to reach the top level and never will have...but equally we will only get back into the Football League when we are able to buy our way to the Conference title and Imps fans (and fans of all clubs) hope that someone will come along one day and give us a pile of cash.
So don't criticise spending money or having it. I guess it IS fair to criticise spending money you don't have but even then that's a gamble that has to be taken sometimes and occasionally failure will result as it has so badly with Rangers.
And "sad for whom?"....will quite obviously sad for all the vast numbers of lifelong Rangers fans and many others who sympathise with them.
As for demoting teams who win...utter nonsense.

Discuss



Eh? Nobody sympathises with Rangers. Pure Marmite. Love them of hate them. As for lifelong Rangers supporters - products of bigotry, sectarianism and jingoism.

Agree on all 3 fronts, mother from Cookstown NI and i love em!!


sjosta
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Dec 7, 2014, 4:59 PM

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Pretty much every team that wins every league or cup buys their way to it.


Disagree completely. Successful teams should be products of the local community moulded together by a manager e.g. Ferguson at East Stirling, St.Mirren and Aberdeen or MacLean at United or Finlayson at Hill of Beath. Everything else is Tescos or Waitrose. You wanna support your local Supermarket or lookat how your shares are growing because your team has been taken over by some shady Eastern European or Asian "Capitalist", that's your choice.
I thought that this was a football forum.



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buckielugger
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Dec 8, 2014, 9:32 PM

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PaulC
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Dec 10, 2014, 5:38 PM

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Their side of star-studded megabucks professionals, who no doubt spent their usual afternoon in a "5 Star hotel" today, threw-away a lead to lose to part-time Alloa Athletic in tonight's delayed Semi-Final... (It got delayed owing to Rangers using a loophole to get it postponed from an international weekend). It's claimed the scorer of Alloa's 88th-minute winner didn't finish his shift until 6pm.


As Barry Smith, Alloa's manager said (probably apocryphally) "The boys put in a great shift today. Then they went out tonight and beat Rangers."


buckielugger
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That's a clever little line from the Alloa manager. Good on him and his team for getting the win.
It sums up even more how low Rangers continue to sink.
I hope that they can sort themselves out with a credible owner as Scottish football needs them. But every other club is entitled to take advantage of their sorry state for as long as it lasts.

Any prospects for a Third Lanark revival? I think a team exists in amateur football and has been attempting fundraising but any progress on that?
With the likes of East Kilbride and BSC Glasgow leaping from nowhere into the Lowland Lge, could a Third Lanark revival club do the same?


kirby knitters
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Dec 12, 2014, 2:25 PM

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McCoist has offered the board his resignation.


PaulC
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Dec 12, 2014, 2:45 PM

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McCoist has offered the board his resignation.


The board can't afford to accept it.


sjosta
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Dec 12, 2014, 3:08 PM

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McCoist has offered the board his resignation.


The board can't afford to accept it.


McCoist must stay!



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kirby knitters
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Dec 12, 2014, 3:31 PM

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McCoist has offered the board his resignation.


The board can't afford to accept it.

And he knows it so why do it?


Bantam Cymraeg
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Dec 12, 2014, 4:45 PM

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Would he get a payout if he resigns, rather than being sacked? I would have thought that he wouldn't. They could then get someone cheaper who could do a better job. There must be plenty out there....


northstandexile
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Dec 12, 2014, 6:43 PM

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He is on a 12 month rolling contract and he has in fact given the club 12 months notice of leaving.

The ball is in the club's court. They can let him work his 12 contract out until December 2015 or pay him off.

Trouble is the club haven't the cash to pay him off.


kirby knitters
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Dec 13, 2014, 9:13 AM

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After the debacle last night and with the fans now voting with their feet by staying away from Ibrox in the tens of thousands something needs to be done quick smartish. Any hopes of winning the title have now gone and the whole of the board were in London yesterday trying to sort things out....Desperate times indeedFrown


acmold
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Dec 13, 2014, 10:23 AM

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Saw the game last night on BT Sport, the team Rangers had out would be where in the Football League, league 1 (or even 2) at best?. How can they throw so much money at it and appear to be so bad.


sjosta
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How can they throw so much money at it and appear to be so bad.


If the money is thrown at them being full time it's easy. A full time team will outlast a part-time team in upward of 95% of occasions. Even journeymen can look good if they're fit (look at England)



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PaulC
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Dec 15, 2014, 8:38 AM

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He is on a 12 month rolling contract and he has in fact given the club 12 months notice of leaving.

The ball is in the club's court. They can let him work his 12 contract out until December 2015 or pay him off.

Trouble is the club haven't the cash to pay him off.


Rangers have informed the Stock Exchange that McCoist has resigned and is serving 12 months notice.

His pay will almost double to £750,000 in his notice period.


kirby knitters
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I take it his money is now reverting back to what it was as he was said to have taken a large pay cut 2 years ago?


PaulC
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Dec 15, 2014, 10:07 AM

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I take it his money is now reverting back to what it was as he was said to have taken a large pay cut 2 years ago?


I think he was on about £825,000 when he plotted the defeats of such luminaries of the Scottish game as East Stirlingshire, Albion Rovers and Elgin City.


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windydcfc
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Rangers & Mike Ashley accused of ownership breach by SFA:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30486272



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kirby knitters
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Rangers & Mike Ashley accused of ownership breach by SFA:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30486272

Both parties would have known full well about this before entering into any sort of agreement so can hardly be surprised at action by The SFA.


PaulC
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Meanwhile, in other news, "retail tycoons Sir Philip Green and Mike Ashley were both left nursing multimillion pound paper losses yesterday after close to £140m was wiped off the value of MySale, the website that runs clearance sales for fashion brands, following a major profit warning." The Grauniad.

Couldn't happen to two more deserving people.


windydcfc
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Reports in the Daily Record are that Rangers are set to offer former Nottingham Forest boss Billy Davies the job of resurrecting their fortunes if they reach an agreement for manager Ally McCoist to leave Ibrox.



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Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


kirby knitters
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Reports in the Daily Record are that Rangers are set to offer former Nottingham Forest boss Billy Davies the job of resurrecting their fortunes if they reach an agreement for manager Ally McCoist to leave Ibrox.

McCoist is staying at Ibrox for the time being so take it they failed to come up with an acceptable package for him to leave.

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