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wishmaster3211
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Jun 15, 2012, 10:24 AM

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"The" Rangers FC it is then.

Here we go, when discussing Rushden, Dalrington, Kettering et al on this board people have always said what would happen if a big club went to the wall. Well, Rangers have gone to the wall totally.

From my reading of the situation as it was applied to Darlington, if they were in England they wouldn't be able to kick a ball next season in Senior football.

Like thats going to happen.

I bet they end up in the SPL with a points deduction, so Portsmouth fans can relax.....



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chienmort
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Jun 15, 2012, 10:39 AM

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"The" Rangers FC it is then.

Here we go, when discussing Rushden, Dalrington, Kettering et al on this board people have always said what would happen if a big club went to the wall. Well, Rangers have gone to the wall totally.

From my reading of the situation as it was applied to Darlington, if they were in England they wouldn't be able to kick a ball next season in Senior football.

Like thats going to happen.

I bet they end up in the SPL with a points deduction, so Portsmouth fans can relax.....


i assume that you are discussing Glasgow Rangers? Why would they end up in the Southern Premier League?



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Jaundiced Hack
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Jun 15, 2012, 10:47 AM

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What's the Southern Premier League?


Part-Timer
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Jun 15, 2012, 10:50 AM

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Here we go, when discussing Rushden, Dalrington, Kettering et al on this board people have always said what would happen if a big club went to the wall. Well, Rangers have gone to the wall totally.


That's novel; Darlington renaming themselves Dalrington. Better than AFC I suppose.Wink


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Jun 15, 2012, 11:09 AM

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Presume this is why Tokyngton Manor are not coming back.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../0/football/18446597


ladderman
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Jun 15, 2012, 12:26 PM

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I like the idea of mis-spelling your name rather than "AFC", though I suspect we'd just drop the "Bishop's", most people from the area don't use it anyway.

As for Pompey, they're not Rangers. I'm sure they would get away with it to a certain degree, but the FL doesn't need them quite like Scottish football (believes it) needs Rangers.


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Jun 15, 2012, 1:22 PM

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I like the idea of mis-spelling your name rather than "AFC", though I suspect we'd just drop the "Bishop's", most people from the area don't use it anyway.

As for Pompey, they're not Rangers. I'm sure they would get away with it to a certain degree, but the FL doesn't need them quite like Scottish football (believes it) needs Rangers.


But they do don`t they? The gates most Scottish Premier sides get is not enough to survive without the 4 games against Celti & Rangers take that away and a lot of clubs will run into major problems IMO.



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wishmaster3211
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Jun 15, 2012, 1:32 PM

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I like the idea of mis-spelling your name rather than "AFC", though I suspect we'd just drop the "Bishop's", most people from the area don't use it anyway.

As for Pompey, they're not Rangers. I'm sure they would get away with it to a certain degree, but the FL doesn't need them quite like Scottish football (believes it) needs Rangers.


But they do don`t they? The gates most Scottish Premier sides get is not enough to survive without the 4 games against Celti & Rangers take that away and a lot of clubs will run into major problems IMO.


They need the TV deal that the old Firm bring. They don't need the gates that's a myth, a lot of home fans don't bother going to games against the Old Firm and Police costs are excessive. With a chance of finishing 2nd a few clubs would see significant increases in most gates.

I am intrigued as to whether they will be forced to change their name. They were never known as GLASGOW Rangers (in fact that used to wind up a Rangers fan i knew more than calling him a "Hun"!) so that would be an option.

Personally I think any so called Rules that were applied to Livingston will be chucked out of a Govan tower block window.....

There are rumours Livingston will sue if THE Rangers dont get demoted (technically not demoted as its not even the same club!).



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TheLinnet
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Jun 15, 2012, 2:15 PM

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Presume this is why Tokyngton Manor are not coming back.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../0/football/18446597

Can someone tell me how this relates to Tokyngton Manor ?



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Savagebee
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Jun 15, 2012, 3:47 PM

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Presume this is why Tokyngton Manor are not coming back.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../0/football/18446597

Can someone tell me how this relates to Tokyngton Manor ?



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ladderman
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Jun 15, 2012, 3:55 PM

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But they wouldn't be losing four home games against the Old Firm, the ten other sides would lose on aveage 1.7 home games against Rangers (because of the split after 33 games), and they would still get the same number of home games. As Wishmaster says, the race for second would lead to less "dead" games, one team who would've been in the relegation section would end up in the title section of the SPL, one extra non Old Firm side would get into Europe. The numbers aren't as clear-cut as Rangers claim.

The fly in the ointment is the TV deal. It runs until the end of the 2016-17 season (by which time AFC Rangers would be back in the top flight) so it's down to whether Sky really can rip it up if there's no Rangers in the top flight. http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../0/football/17047957 suggests they can.

Regardless, I expect to see Rangers in the SPL next season.


stingray
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Jun 15, 2012, 5:04 PM

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Presume this is why Tokyngton Manor are not coming back.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../0/football/18446597



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PaulC
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Jun 15, 2012, 8:30 PM

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"The" Rangers FC it is then.


It seems odd that they are imitating The Celtic Football Club.

I thought they would have opted for "Glasgow Rangers"



ARL
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It would be interesting to see the new Rangers put in SFL Division Three, though. Their away game at Queens Park would surely attract the biggest ever gate for a 4th-level game in any country? (and finance the Spiders for the next 50 years)


Richard Watts
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Jun 16, 2012, 10:19 AM

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It would be interesting to see the new Rangers put in SFL Division Three, though. Their away game at Queens Park would surely attract the biggest ever gate for a 4th-level game in any country? (and finance the Spiders for the next 50 years)

I would imagine QPFC finance themselves quite comfortably as it is. Don't they own Hampden Park and hire it out to the SFA for internationals, cup finals etc.?

If this is going to be a completely new club starting with a debt free clean slate it would be outrageous were they to be allowed to start in the Premier League where the old club finished. If, for instance, Kilmarnock went bust would a new Kilmarnock club be allowed to do that?


ladderman
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Jun 16, 2012, 10:55 AM

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Livingstone were demoted from Div 1 to Div 3. Of course, that's the Scottish League rather than the SPL which will be their get-out clause.


garethwrexy
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Jun 16, 2012, 12:10 PM

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put them in the highland league Smile



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PaulC
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Jun 16, 2012, 1:08 PM

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Didn't Middlesbrough Football & Athletic Club (1986) take over the place of the previous Middlesbrough club after it went into liquidation?


Beano
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Jun 16, 2012, 2:04 PM

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Didn't Middlesbrough Football & Athletic Club (1986) take over the place of the previous Middlesbrough club after it went into liquidation?


Yes, but under a different set of rules to those in place now.

Of course, none of this is relevant to Scotland: different country, different rules.


scottywalds
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Jun 16, 2012, 2:36 PM

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put them in the highland league Smile

That would be like putting Arsenal in the Northern League.


MOUNTAINEER
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Jun 16, 2012, 3:21 PM

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I thought they have always been GLASGOW RANGERS.


scottywalds
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Jun 16, 2012, 3:29 PM

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I thought they have always been GLASGOW RANGERS.

No, that was added for European competitions to show which city they were from.


PaulC
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Jun 16, 2012, 3:34 PM

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<reply>I thought they have always been GLASGOW RANGERS. </reply>


Never. Rangers Football Club (and The Celtic Football Club)

It was only around 1910 that the Burgh of Govan in which Rangers play was 'annexed' by Glasgow.


cool_hand_luke
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Jun 16, 2012, 5:54 PM

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Will the newco club get to keep the oldco clubs history? 54 titles, Scottish cups etc?


MOUNTAINEER
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I have seen Glasgow Rangers FC referred to many times,
a Google can confirm the Glasgow Rangers name tag,
the SPL website in places refers to GLASGOW RANGERS.

Perhaps some Bears supporters can confirm it.

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