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windydcfc
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Nov 14, 2019, 1:07 PM

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Has the YAL been given step 7 status?



Yep



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Yorkstar
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Nov 14, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Has the YAL been given step 7 status?



Yep


Well that didn't last very long - 4 months?


oftenscore6
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Nov 14, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Is there a full list of who has joined / left the Huddersfield and Wakey leagues?

RE: Moorside, seems a weird move given they are a lancashire side.

Much of Saddleworth, I expect including Moorside, was in West Yorkshire pre-1974. Various Saddleworth teams have played in the Huddersfield League before then and since - I think Uppermill and 3D Dynamos (Delph, Dobcross and Denshaw) are both mentioned in this thread. Good to hear Marsden FC is being used.



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Nov 14, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Is there any chance that the various West Yorks Leagues will be allocated distinct areas of West Yorkshires?



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windydcfc
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Nov 14, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Is there any chance that the various West Yorks Leagues will be allocated distinct areas of West Yorkshires?



I contacted the West Riding FA about this, at the end of last season. This was there responses to a few questions:
The CFA has no intention to engineer an East / West split. Teams have a freedom of choice as to which league they apply to. An East/West split would only be fair if an equal standard of football could be guaranteed, which, at this stage, cannot. It is not in the CFAs gift to mandate any team to complete in either league.

The alternative would to be to operate the Step 7 leagues in distinct areas based on East and West geography. This assumes that the clubs that a) have the grounds to fulfil ground grading and b) the potential on the pitch are equality spread across the County. This is not the case unfortunately.



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Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


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Nov 15, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Is there any chance that the various West Yorks Leagues will be allocated distinct areas of West Yorkshires?



I contacted the West Riding FA about this, at the end of last season. This was there responses to a few questions:
The CFA has no intention to engineer an East / West split. Teams have a freedom of choice as to which league they apply to. An East/West split would only be fair if an equal standard of football could be guaranteed, which, at this stage, cannot. It is not in the CFAs gift to mandate any team to complete in either league.

The alternative would to be to operate the Step 7 leagues in distinct areas based on East and West geography. This assumes that the clubs that a) have the grounds to fulfil ground grading and b) the potential on the pitch are equality spread across the County. This is not the case unfortunately.

If the West Riding FA don't want an east / west split and don't think there is an equality in terms of potential they could always put the better teams into one Step 7 league and put the remainder into a "Step 8" feeder division, or would that be too radical!


Thewatcher
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Nov 21, 2019, 9:16 PM

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What do you mean that didn't last long? YAL top division is till step 7 and have submitted their development plan for 20/21


Thewatcher
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There seems to be a lot of 'snobbery' on here regarding the achievement of Step 7 by some leagues? Why shouldn't WRCFA be able to support 2 step 7 leagues, one well established and one working hard to get established and improve their facilities and standards. Surely they are allowed to start somewhere??
Also why is the geography such an issue? Both leagues can operate successfully across the WRCFA footprint


Yorkstar
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Nov 22, 2019, 12:36 PM

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See Windy's post @ #376 (further up the page) about them giving uo their Step 7 status.


Thewatcher
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Nov 22, 2019, 12:46 PM

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Unless I'm reading that wrong it says 'have YAL been given step 7 status' and the answer is yes.
They are still step 7


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Nov 22, 2019, 1:17 PM

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So there are 2 Step 7 leagues in West Yorkshire.
There should be no issue with that, other counties have 2.

But there is a difference in quality between the two and they don't have a geographical split which seems a little odd.


Thewatcher
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Nov 22, 2019, 1:58 PM

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As per my previous post - its accepted that there are differences in the quality of facilities (although quality of teams is much closer). One has been growing and developing for a number of years, one is in its infancy and working hard to improve its stature. I don't see this as an issue?

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