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PaulC
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Oct 20, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Round 2
University of Stirling 0-2 Linlithgow Rose


Tykeoldboy
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Round 3

Albion Rovers or Fort William v Airdrieonians
Auchinleck Talbot v Arbroath
Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic v Montrose
Dumbarton v Forfar Athletic
East Fife v Lochee United or BSC Glasgow
Edinburgh City v Annan Athletic or Brechin City
Elgin City v Alloa Athletic
Formartine United or Gala Fairydean Rovers v East Kilbride
Greenock Morton v Brora Rangers
Inverurie Loco Works v Cowdenbeath or Broxburn Athletic
Linlithgow Rose v Falkirk
Partick Thistle v Penicuik Athletic or Stenhousemuir
Queen of the South v Queen's Park
Raith Rovers v Peterhead
Stirling Albion v Clyde
Stranraer v Dunfermline Athletic

Ties to be played weekend of 22-24 November 201



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LeedsPhil
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Linlithgow Rose v Falkirk is the Friday night BBC Scotland TV pick. 7:05pm KO. No ticket info yet.


PaulC
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Oct 26, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Round 2
Penicuik Athletic 3-0 Stenhousemuir (1,249)

Round 2 replays
Broxburn Athletic 3-0 Cowdenbeath (1,049)
Gala Fairydean Rovers 1-2 Formartine United
Fort William 0-5 Albion Rovers
Brechin City 0-2 Annan Athletic (258)
BSC Glasgow v Lochee United (Sunday)


(This post was edited by PaulC on Oct 26, 2019, 7:12 PM)


PaulC
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Highlights
Penicuik v Stenhousemuir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C25lSC3AUw

Broxburn v Cowdenbeath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDQHnaOvv34


BelfastBlue
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Oct 28, 2019, 11:02 PM

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Linlithgow Rose v Falkirk is the Friday night BBC Scotland TV pick. 7:05pm KO. No ticket info yet.


£15 and £7. Rose Secretary met with BBC today reference TV coverage and a stress test to the wall is imminent to determine capacity.


LeedsPhil
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Linlithgow Rose v Falkirk is the Friday night BBC Scotland TV pick. 7:05pm KO. No ticket info yet.


£15 and £7. Rose Secretary met with BBC today reference TV coverage and a stress test to the wall is imminent to determine capacity.
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Wall test Mon 4th Nov. Tickets (£15, £10 concessions) on sale from Tue 5th but only to STHs/Members (2 per person) in the first instance.



BelfastBlue
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Linlithgow Rose v Falkirk is the Friday night BBC Scotland TV pick. 7:05pm KO. No ticket info yet.


£15 and £7. Rose Secretary met with BBC today reference TV coverage and a stress test to the wall is imminent to determine capacity.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________
Wall test Mon 4th Nov. Tickets (£15, £10 concessions) on sale from Tue 5th but only to STHs/Members (2 per person) in the first instance.



I got my original prices from the Rose Secretary on Sunday.


oftenscore6
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Nov 18, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Round 2
Tidying up - the last result was:
BSC Glasgow 2-1 Lochee United (Sunday 27th October)




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29/11 Drochtersen/Assel v Altona


PaulC
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Nov 18, 2019, 1:34 PM

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Bonnyrigg Rose v Montrose is all-ticket, with no payment at the gate. Cost £10/£5.

The club say hundreds were turned away ticketless from the last tie - Bonnyrigg v Buckie. Capacity for the Montrose tie is 2,000.


mick
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Nov 18, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Bonnyrigg Rose v Montrose is all-ticket, with no payment at the gate. Cost £10/£5.

The club say hundreds were turned away ticketless from the last tie - Bonnyrigg v Buckie. Capacity for the Montrose tie is 2,000.


Madness - the crowd for the Buckie game was 1678 and anyone who watched it on TV will have seen plenty of room to accommodate hundreds more. I never understand why so many clubs turn away paying customers when the ground is not full, even taking into account any segregation requirements.


Jim S
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Nov 18, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Mick, read the Bonnyrigg website. They fully explain th e reason for the capacity. Also if it is a wet day the majority of the ground is grass banking with no crush barriers. No seats either.


PaulC
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Nov 18, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Mick, read the Bonnyrigg website. They fully explain th e reason for the capacity. Also if it is a wet day the majority of the ground is grass banking with no crush barriers. No seats either.


Just one side has grass banking - and it’s the only side with crush barriers.


mick
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Nov 18, 2019, 10:53 PM

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I have read the website and, leaving aside your misinformation concerning the banking and crush barriers, I can only find reference to a licensed capacity of 2,640 which had to be reduced for the Buckie game beacuse of TV & VIP requirements. I could see no specific figure for the reduced capacity, but I doubt whether TV facililities etc would take up the room of almost 1000 spectators.

The stated explanation for the actual capping at below 1700 of being "primarily for the safety of supporters that already have purchased tickets, who will be watching a competitive fixture at New Dundas Park under artificial light for the first time." smacks rather of Junior views regarding the 'devil's candles' than a meaningful reason. If I have missed the full explanation please let me know what it was.

As already mentioned, TV viewers would have been able to clearly see the swathes of unfilled capacity at both ends.


prorege
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Nov 19, 2019, 7:43 AM

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"Torrential rain throughout the day made playing conditions difficult and spectating conditions even more so. The small covered enclosure was rammed to capacity half an hour before kick off. The remainder of the grassy bankings were treacherous in the extreme and by the end resembled the mudfields of the Somme. This was not helped by a lack of toilet facilities for the bumper crowd – most male supporters on the far side opted to just pish through the slats in the wooden fence at the back of the banking rather than trying to fight their way through the throng on the other side of the ground. Likewise refreshments were a forlorn hope for most with just one outlet.

This emphasises that whilst Bonnyrigg may have pretensions of promotion to the SPFL – they will have a massive amount of work to do between now and the end of the season if they are to be eligible for SPFL membership. The bankings will need to be at least concreted. They will have to have two sets of proper turnstiles to enable segregation. That means new toilets and catering facilities in the away section. New Dundas Park is unusual in that there is only access to one side of the ground – the remainder is entirely surrounded by houses and private gardens. They have no way of bringing in a burger van or portaloos to the far side of the ground. Oh, and seats – the SPFL would insist on some of those as well"

The above is quoted from my WDYG report on the Bonnyrigg v Buckie match.

For clarity, there are crush barriers in the covered enclosure as well as some on the grass banking. I left the covered enclosure around 20 minutes before kick off as I thought it was seriously overcrowded and I couldn't get a decent view of the game. I then watched from the grassy bank side which had plenty room but was certainly dangerous underfoot. Most people stood on the flat bit at the back or down at pitchside - it was too slippy to stand on the slope with any hope of remaining upright.

As far as I could see Bonnyrigg were initially admitting people for cash on the night - there were two separate queues, one for cash and one for tickets. Once the capacity was reached they closed the cash gate.

For such a game the club had to get a Safety Certificate from the local council. The capacity will have been calculated using the Green Guide. Given this week's weather I'd say 2000 capacity is the Council being very generous indeed.


mick
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Nov 19, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Thanks for that. Seems rather strange that the licenced capacity is stated as 2,640 yet the 'safe' capacity is seemingly ~25% less. Normally you would expect a licensing body to err on the side of caution and underestimate the safe capacity rather than overestimate it.


prorege
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Nov 20, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Round 3 Details

1. Auchinleck Talbot v. Arbroath
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Beechwood Park 1.45pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 Beechwood Park 1.45pm
R. Wednesday 27 November 2019 Gayfield Park 7.45pm

2. Stranraer v. Dunfermline Athletic
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Stair Park 3.00pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 Stair Park 3.00pm
R. Tuesday 26 November 2019 East End Park 7.45pm

3. Dumbarton v. Forfar Athletic
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 C&G Systems Stadium 3.00pm
P. Tuesday 3 December 2019 C&G Systems Stadium 7.45pm
R. Tuesday 3 December 2019 Station Park 7.45pm

4. Raith Rovers v. Peterhead
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Stark’s Park 3.00pm
P. Tuesday 3 December 2019 Stark’s Park 7.45pm
R. Tuesday 3 December 2019 Balmoor Stadium 7.45pm

5. Elgin City v. Alloa Athletic
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Borough Briggs 3.00pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 Borough Briggs 3.00pm
R. Saturday 30 November 2019 Indodrill Stadium 3.00pm

6. Greenock Morton v. Brora Rangers
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Cappielow Park 3.00pm
P. Tuesday 3 December 2019 Cappielow Park 7.45pm
R. Tuesday 3 December 2019 Dudgeon Park 7.45pm

7. Formartine United v. East Kilbride
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 North Lodge Park 3.00pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 North Lodge Park 3.00pm
R. Saturday 30 November 2019 K Park 3.00pm

8. Partick Thistle v. Penicuik Athletic
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Energy Check Stadium at Firhill 3.00pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 Energy Check Stadium at Firhill 3.00pm
R. Saturday 30 November 2019 Penicuik Park 3.00pm

9. Albion Rovers v. Airdrieonians
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 The Reigart Stadium 3.00pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 The Reigart Stadium 3.00pm
R. Tuesday 3 December 2019 Penny Cars Stadium 7.45pm

10. Queen of the South v. Queen’s Park
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Palmerston Park 3.00pm
P. Tuesday 3 December 2019 Palmerston Park 7.45pm
R. Saturday 30 November 2019 Hampden Park 3.00pm

11. Edinburgh City v. Annan Athletic
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Ainslie Park 3.00pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 Ainslie Park 3.00pm
R. Saturday 30 November 2019 Galabank 3.00pm

12. Stirling Albion v. Clyde
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Forthbank Stadium 3.00pm
P. Tuesday 26 November 2019 Forthbank Stadium 7.45pm
R. Tuesday 3 December 2019 Broadwood Stadium 7.45pm

13. East Fife v. BSC Glasgow
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Locality Hub Bayview Stadium 3.00pm
P. Wednesday 4 December 2019 Locality Hub Bayview Stadium 7.45pm
R. Wednesday 4 December 2019 Indodrill Stadium 7.45pm

14. Linlithgow Rose v. Falkirk
O. Friday 22 November 2019 Prestonfield 7.05pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 Prestonfield 3.00pm
R. Saturday 30 November 2019 The Falkirk Stadium 3.00pm

15. Inverurie Loco Works v. Broxburn Athletic
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 Harlaw Park 3.00pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 Harlaw Park 3.00pm
R. Saturday 30 November 2019 Albyn Park 3.00pm

16. Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic v. Montrose
O. Saturday 23 November 2019 New Dundas Park 3.00pm
P. Saturday 30 November 2019 New Dundas Park 3.00pm
R. Tuesday 3 December 2019 Links Park Stadium 7.45pm

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