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Unicorn
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I see they are sort of being mentioned on another thread about Step 7.
Am i right or wrong about the following.

They were Brackley Town Development. They got as high as Step 5 by being basically an academy team and using the higher education rule.
When they changed their name to Brackley Town Saints they stayed at Step 5 by using the teams already at that level rule which had come into force a few years earlier.

Correct or incorrect.


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They are not considered a reserve or development team.


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That does not even begin to answer my question.
I am looking for the history of how this occurred.


(This post was edited by Unicorn on Sep 19, 2019, 12:15 AM)


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According to FCHD, they spent one year in the Hellenic League under the Development name, and changed name on promotion to the Premier Division
They claim independence and the FA accepts that, but many cynics on here do not believe it.

Another Saint, Saint Neots Town Saints, (and one year Saint Neots Town Youth and Saints), while never rising above Step 6 also claimed independence and played two seasons in the FA Vase, but were shut down on the whim of their parent club in 2015-16 season (again, this is according to a site cynic)

Of course, a club can change from being a reserve team to an indepentent club - see Redditch Borough for example, (at least one known cynic accepts their change in status)



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Thank you.


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They are not considered a reserve or development team.



By you and the FA maybe. The FA are stupid.

Look at Brackley Towns website , you will see the 'Saints' are their second string , call them what you want.



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 87 / 75 / 12 / inc 3 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 14 / 10 / 2019.
2019/20. Benelux = Bel = 0-0-0-(I(MUI-I)-0-0)-(0-2-1-1)/ Lux = 0-2 / Neth = 0-0-0-(1 - 2) Others France = 0-0 / Germany =0-0-0 / Italy =0-1(Act 2- Frosinone new)./ Iberia = P = 0-0 & S = 0-0.

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Of course, a club can change from being a reserve team to an indepentent club - see Redditch Borough for example, (at least one known cynic accepts their change in status)

Borough do have their own ground and there is now a Redditch United Reserves side in the MFL.

There are now two clubs from Inkberrow in the MFL playing on the same ground. Sporting Club Inkberrow are apparenty a separate club but stem from the reserves side of Inkberrow.


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There are now two clubs from Inkberrow in the MFL playing on the same ground. Sporting Club Inkberrow are apparenty a separate club but stem from the reserves side of Inkberrow.


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Once again using websites , Inkberrow's in this case and scrolling through teams , SC Inkberrow are 2nd in the list , read into that what YOU want.



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 87 / 75 / 12 / inc 3 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 14 / 10 / 2019.
2019/20. Benelux = Bel = 0-0-0-(I(MUI-I)-0-0)-(0-2-1-1)/ Lux = 0-2 / Neth = 0-0-0-(1 - 2) Others France = 0-0 / Germany =0-0-0 / Italy =0-1(Act 2- Frosinone new)./ Iberia = P = 0-0 & S = 0-0.

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Yes, Sporting Club played our Reserves the other week and told us they are completely separate from the other club having their own 'directors', committee, sponsors etc. With their results so far I doubt there are many of the old reserves side playing for them.


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I am one of those cynics Leo speaks highly of and would just say that that is what they have been told to tell other teams , fans , public to con the FA.



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 87 / 75 / 12 / inc 3 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 14 / 10 / 2019.
2019/20. Benelux = Bel = 0-0-0-(I(MUI-I)-0-0)-(0-2-1-1)/ Lux = 0-2 / Neth = 0-0-0-(1 - 2) Others France = 0-0 / Germany =0-0-0 / Italy =0-1(Act 2- Frosinone new)./ Iberia = P = 0-0 & S = 0-0.

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Ignore the shared websites, logos, colours etc - these are red herrings that prove nothing about the main issue, namely the autonomy of these clubs to make their own financial and playing decisions (there are many examples in other industries where independent entities in charge of their own finances, resources and business decisions share branding and web platforms).


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Do you work for the FA Paul ?






July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 87 / 75 / 12 / inc 3 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 14 / 10 / 2019.
2019/20. Benelux = Bel = 0-0-0-(I(MUI-I)-0-0)-(0-2-1-1)/ Lux = 0-2 / Neth = 0-0-0-(1 - 2) Others France = 0-0 / Germany =0-0-0 / Italy =0-1(Act 2- Frosinone new)./ Iberia = P = 0-0 & S = 0-0.

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(This post was edited by dottirofhod on Sep 21, 2019, 11:06 AM)


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Oh, no attempt whatsoever to play the ball! And fishing belongs in other sports. Tongue

A disciplinary for you on Monday
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Look at Brackley Towns website , you will see the 'Saints' are their second string , call them what you want.


Agree with this completely. I think looking at the parent club's website to see whether the newer club is mentioned as their reserves is a pretty safe and foolproof method of finding out if a particular club is a reserve side.


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I am one of those cynics Leo speaks highly of and would just say that that is what they have been told to tell other teams , fans , public to con the FA.
Well they do have their own website where it lists all the different Directors, officials and sponsors etc so I believe them.Angelic


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Inkberrow Twitter is a complete giveaway as to the connection between Firsts, SC & the Academy sides.

Please give link Griff for SC Inkberrow seperate website, Ta.



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 87 / 75 / 12 / inc 3 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 14 / 10 / 2019.
2019/20. Benelux = Bel = 0-0-0-(I(MUI-I)-0-0)-(0-2-1-1)/ Lux = 0-2 / Neth = 0-0-0-(1 - 2) Others France = 0-0 / Germany =0-0-0 / Italy =0-1(Act 2- Frosinone new)./ Iberia = P = 0-0 & S = 0-0.

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Sorry, just realised I meant Twitter site. It was there when I looked pre-season, listed everyone and sponsors.
Off to footie now so will leave in your capable hands.


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Quicky, you could try https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11936856
or this one https://suite.endole.co.uk/...g-club-inkberrow-ltd


(This post was edited by GRIFFON on Sep 21, 2019, 12:54 PM)


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They are not considered a reserve or development team.



By you and the FA maybe. The FA are stupid.

Look at Brackley Towns website , you will see the 'Saints' are their second string , call them what you want.

Hey, I didn't say I agree but only the fa's opinion matters. I'd say the FA are more disinterested than stupid.


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Well I'm off the Alex shortly, does that count as football?



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 87 / 75 / 12 / inc 3 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 14 / 10 / 2019.
2019/20. Benelux = Bel = 0-0-0-(I(MUI-I)-0-0)-(0-2-1-1)/ Lux = 0-2 / Neth = 0-0-0-(1 - 2) Others France = 0-0 / Germany =0-0-0 / Italy =0-1(Act 2- Frosinone new)./ Iberia = P = 0-0 & S = 0-0.

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OK Doobs, I was thinking you worked in the same office as that FA guy Paul Herring.



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 87 / 75 / 12 / inc 3 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 14 / 10 / 2019.
2019/20. Benelux = Bel = 0-0-0-(I(MUI-I)-0-0)-(0-2-1-1)/ Lux = 0-2 / Neth = 0-0-0-(1 - 2) Others France = 0-0 / Germany =0-0-0 / Italy =0-1(Act 2- Frosinone new)./ Iberia = P = 0-0 & S = 0-0.

Now blogging at https://eccentricity.video.blog/



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Well I'm off the Alex shortly, does that count as football?


Is that the club that is/was Liverpool's reserves? Tongue


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I'm reporting you to Greg Clarke.



July 1, 2019 to June 30,2020 = 87 / 75 / 12 / inc 3 x 0-0's. (You know my rules) @ 14 / 10 / 2019.
2019/20. Benelux = Bel = 0-0-0-(I(MUI-I)-0-0)-(0-2-1-1)/ Lux = 0-2 / Neth = 0-0-0-(1 - 2) Others France = 0-0 / Germany =0-0-0 / Italy =0-1(Act 2- Frosinone new)./ Iberia = P = 0-0 & S = 0-0.

Now blogging at https://eccentricity.video.blog/



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Have you got the limited company details for the other Inkberrow - but I notice the treasurer, chairman and senior chairman of Inkberrow FC are directors of the Sporting Club



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(This post was edited by leohoenig on Sep 22, 2019, 9:03 AM)


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Have any Brackley Town players ever played for Saints?. How many Saints players have played for Brackley Town?.

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