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CR86
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42 point deduction dished out by FAW which would relegate them from tier 2.

[https://www.faw.cymru/en/news/statement-bangor-city-football-club/]


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Now hit with a 42 points deduction by the FAW for inter alia - not paying a contracted player, not lodging the contract with the FAW, signing a contract player outside the transfer window, playing two ineligible players etc. I could go on but the charge sheet is a lengthy one. If they fail to win their appeal they will finish bottom of the Cymru Alliance and be relegated to the third tier. I recall Vaughan junior's statement of 4 March in which he said he had left his role in Malta and had come back "to help save the club". Hmmm.


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I have tears in my eyes .!!


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Bangor City's statement in response.....

"In light of the findings of the recent case, FAW vs. Bangor City FC, the FAW has issued a points deduction to the club as a result of players being paid who are registered as non-contract players that do not have a written contract at FAW.
This issue will send shockwaves through the football community as many clubs throughout Wales pay players who are registered as non-contract and who are not on professional contracts.
In the opinion of the FAW, players who sign standard non-contract forms should NOT be paid apart from expenses and then only if valid receipts are submitted.
All registration rules have been adhered to and the decision is based on 'balance of probability' rather than adhering to their own rules and regulations.
All forms signed have been submitted correctly and therefore, no blame can be attributed to any individuals who have been involved with the club.
The punishment that has been issued is severely harsh and not in keeping with previous punishments for similar issues.
This decision will be appealed - not just in the interests of Bangor City but for every other club within Welsh football who currently are doing the same thing."



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Well Bangor's response seems to be yes we did it but so do others.

Wouldn't give them much hope in any appeal in that case.
Well done to the FAW in taking no nonsense from the Vaughans and the way they flaunt any rule they care to.


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Well Bangor's response seems to be yes we did it but so do others.

Wouldn't give them much hope in any appeal in that case.
Well done to the FAW in taking no nonsense from the Vaughans and the way they flaunt any rule they care to.


Agreed, but whatever our feelings might be about those currently in control at Bangor, they do make a fair point. The FAW do pick and choose the rules they enforce.
If what BCFC have been doing is as widespread as they suggest, it should be easy to prove and then the onus will be on the FAW to go after everybody who is guilty.


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Well Bangor's response seems to be yes we did it but so do others.

Wouldn't give them much hope in any appeal in that case.
Well done to the FAW in taking no nonsense from the Vaughans and the way they flaunt any rule they care to.


Agreed, but whatever our feelings might be about those currently in control at Bangor, they do make a fair point. The FAW do pick and choose the rules they enforce.
If what BCFC have been doing is as widespread as they suggest, it should be easy to prove and then the onus will be on the FAW to go after everybody who is guilty.

If the FAW run things in such a slapdash manner as has been mentioned on here many times in the past then maybe it should be clubs /people going after them!


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Bangor - currently slated to participate in tier 3 football next season - have appointed a director of football. The latest in the saga that keeps on giving. I can't be bothered to name him. He wont be there long enough to leave a footprint in the sands of time. Sly


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Local press reporting that Bangor City's appeal to the FAW against the 42 point deduction will take place on June 18.

Meanwhile the breakaway fan-owned club have unveiled their new name and badge - Bangor 1876 (https://twitter.com/...757927475523585?s=21). Local press reporting that they'll find out their league placing on June 16.

An interesting few days coming up for the FAW!


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Local press reporting that Bangor City's appeal to the FAW against the 42 point deduction will take place on June 18.

Meanwhile the breakaway fan-owned club have unveiled their new name and badge - Bangor 1876 (https://twitter.com/...757927475523585?s=21). Local press reporting that they'll find out their league placing on June 16.

An interesting few days coming up for the FAW!

I'm told Bangor 1876 will find out on the 19th, but hoping for a tier 3 starting division, which could make for an interesting pair of fixtures, subject to points deduction appeal, paying bills etc.



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''Bangor 1876'', another sham name , AndyD will be happy.



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''Bangor 1876'', another sham name , AndyD will be happy.


Certainly delighted it's not AFC Bangor. Other than that, I'm not prepared to comment.



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The appeal hearing into Bangor City's 42 point deduction has today nullified the original decision and ordered a rehearing into the case: http://www.bangorcityfc.co.uk/...hearing-2436486.html

In separate news, City collected the fair play award at the league's AGM on Saturday! Awkward..


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Turns out Bangor City's statement is incorrect Crazy. The FAW have stated the appeal was merely adjourned until June 24 after City produced fresh information which requires further consideration by the appeals body: https://www.faw.cymru/...ring-bangor-city-fc/


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I'm told Bangor 1876 will find out on the 19th, but hoping for a tier 3 starting division, which could make for an interesting pair of fixtures, subject to points deduction appeal, paying bills etc.


Statement from Bangor 1876 informs that they've been placed in the Gwynedd League: https://pbs.twimg.com/...=jpg&name=medium


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Still waiting for an announcement as to where their home ground will be. Not too many options close to Bangor.


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Still waiting for an announcement as to where their home ground will be. Not too many options close to Bangor.


I thought Id read they were going to play at Treborth.




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I've not seen that anywhere, but I would say that is the most likely. There is a railed off grass pitch, and a new 3G cage is currently under construction, so they could use either or both of those.


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Found it!

https://www.northwaleschronicle.co.uk/...C22o-ab_IapPHa__xD-0

There is also this -

https://www.thebangoraye.com/...aGIcVZD1UCeOiJBg4p9o

...which states that they will be using the 3G. The new cage runs perpendicular at the far end of the railed pitch in the picture in the first link.


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Bangor 1876 have been put in the Gwynedd League (Tier 5). Was always goiung to be that or Anglesey League and cannot believe some above thought they would jump over long established clubs and be in Tier 3. Lucky to be in Gwynedd League.


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"cannot believe some above thought they would jump over long established clubs and be in Tier 3." Well, as it's Bangor an entitlement exists, surely.Smile


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That is very true. They have even thanked FAW for putting them in Gwynedd League when that league has nothing to do with FAW. FAW wouldn't put them any higher and even Gwynedd League will upset some clubs.


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... and of course any new club starting in the South Wales or Gwent FA areas would never be able to start above Tier 8. Aberbargoed Town who have won their Tier 8 League (North Gwent) for the last two seasons are still not allowed to be promoted to Tier 7 (Gwent County 3), as they are too young!


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Yes quite a difference between the south and the north. Anglesey and Gwynedd leagues at Tier 6 and 5 get a dozen teams at most. At Tier 4 in Welsh Alliance, Welsh National League and Mid Wales they often struggle to get 16 teams and in a few seasons even Tier 3 has struggled to get 16 teams.
The new licensing in Wales will just mean in north you have a dozen or so teams that could be in WP and compete in Tier 2. Quite a contrast with the south.


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Bangor City's 42 point deduction has been halved to 21 points on appeal - just enough for them to survive at step 2 on goal difference...http://www.bangorcityfc.co.uk/...stay-up-2438195.html. Holywell are instead relegated to step 3.

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