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MistaFozzII
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Mar 22, 2019, 10:20 PM

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I was wondering what the rules are regarding Farm/Feeder Teams in this Country, I know we see teams like Brackley Town Saints a few steps down from Brackley and other reserve teams in the League System

I was wondering if PL and EFL teams officially have feeder teams in the National League System, could say Newcastle buy a stake Gateshead, Sunderland buy a stake in South Shields or Middlesbrough buy a stake Hartlepool or Darlington and become a part of the bigger clubs business.

Also, could something like that see money filter down through the Leagues with smaller clubs getting Money from bigger clubs to help with the coaching and development of Young players



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leohoenig
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Mar 23, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Do we need a new thread on things that have been discussed at length in the past - such as the status of Brackley Town Saints.
None of the 92 have a stake in lower clubs, and I do not think FA rules would allow it. A purely commercial agreement between two entities could be created, hence allowing the lower club to keep independent while obtaining assistance from a higher level, although I do not see much benefit for Newcastle in making such an agreement with Gateshead - they would probably see Carlisle United as a better fit to their players needs (and more so in seasons when Carlisle are in League-1 rather than League-2). I am sure fans of clubs at League-1 and League-2 level would be against this, seeing it as reserves in disguise.
I do not know enough about the financial structures to say this with absolute certainty, but I suspect that this is how the affiliate programmes work in Major League Baseball and Major League Soccer, with the affiliated clubs being an enterprise in their own right, but with a contractual link to a bigger organisation. Hence, the Fresno Grizzlies were affiliated to the SF Giants when I went, but have since had a four year spell as an affiliate of the Houston Astros and are now linked to the Washington Nationals.



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Wijit99
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Mar 23, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Officially you can't have feeder clubs, however, there are a few clubs who have unofficial agreements in regards to loaning young players.

There are also a few cases in England where coaches from a league team are involved with non league teams and obviously can help acquire a few youth players on loan.


Quite a few premier league clubs have feeder clubs abroad though. Chelsea and Vitesse in the Netherlands being one example. Their of course is the obvious link between Man City and New York City in USA.


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Officially you can't have feeder clubs, however, there are a few clubs who have unofficial agreements in regards to loaning young players.

There are also a few cases in England where coaches from a league team are involved with non league teams and obviously can help acquire a few youth players on loan.


Quite a few premier league clubs have feeder clubs abroad though. Chelsea and Vitesse in the Netherlands being one example. Their of course is the obvious link between Man City and New York City in USA.


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