First Team Star
Jun 4, 2008, 1:17 AM
Location: Great Malvern
Team(s): Yeovil Town
Post #80 of 92
Agree with a few of the sounder comments and duly taken on board.
So, my take on what should be happening is this:
All putative decisions on extraordinary reprieves &/or promotions MUST be delayed and only pre-finalised on the day prior to the first of the AGM's - this subject to any executive FA decision made eight days following. No such reprieves/relegations shall be put into motion prior to this and importantly, not before all possibilities have come to light.
The rulings for the extraordinary team movements WILL be strictly adhered to and these MUST be decided across the Step and not on a Division by Division 'domino' basis. This means that all teams MUST be compared first by position and only then by points-per-game**.
To clear up any misapprehensions, it should be made clear that all teams which leave any Division on any unusual (non straightforward relegation) pretext will be considered to still be represented notionally in the final League Table; even if their official records have been expunged; and will be effectively placed last (or joint-last in the event that two or more leave the same Division concurrently).
Further to that, all teams which remain playing, yet drop more than a single Division in this extraordinary demotion, shall also be considered to have occupied the last position in each and every Division present at the successive Steps beneath - down to, but not including the Division at that Step in which they will be accepted for the new Season. This will help ensure as little continuing confusion as possible about the Step vs. Division argument about reprieves.
[**- It may be decided that PPG is not the best discriminator and if this is so, personally I find it hard to find an adequate alternative beyond a series of play-outs. There would in this case continue to be a separation of all teams by position as the first and primary discriminator, and then the play-out results would determine the secondary order across the Step at each position. PPG would be irrelevant.
It would be easy enough to organise at Step 2 where there are only two Divisions: 20N vs. 20S; 21N vs. 21S & 22N vs. 22S... probably best arranged as single matches at neutral venues, although two matches on a H/A basis could be contemplated.
At Step 3 with three Divisions, it is more complex. I'd suggest that as each team would need to play against two other teams, there could be a random draw for which of the three fixtures are played H/A, such that each team has one of each and this would be done sparately for each position.
Step 4 with six Division might best combine both of the above - using the Step 3 version in two groups of three teams to begin with and then the pairs of group ranked equals further playing-out as in the Step 2 model. At each position, the selection of teams to each of the two groups would remain random.
These games would be played out straight after the end of the season and could be advertised spectacularly in much the same way as the regular play-offs are currently. In effect they would be 'wild-card' games where the best finishers may get a reprieve... and consequently these games would become a matter of course for all Divisions in Steps 2 to 4 inclusive (If you're gonna heve 'em, might as well market them properly !).]
Leagues' AGM's should be fairly synchronised across the boards. I think it may be impossible for all of them to happen on the same day, but perhaps they should all be done within the same seven-day period (?)
The day following the last of these meetings would then be defined as the 'point-of-no-return' as far as extra movements and so forth are concerned. It would be on this day that the FA would contact all Leagues involved and suitable teams in a position to possibly take advantage of some event that has created a vacuum in a Step above them and they MUST give a yea or nay as to whether they will take that up by (say) 5PM of that day. Obviously all teams in such a position would know all this well in advance and would be prepared properly for a formal decision on that day. This would all be then 'set in stone' and there would be no further movements to replace any team withdrawing for any reason.
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