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Oxford Stone
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https://www.hellenicleague.co.uk/club_news/hellenic.html


oxpete
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Hellenic League Premier Division:

Abingdon United
Ardley United (Promoted from HL1W)
Ascot United
Binfield
Bishops Cleeve (Relegated from SL1W)
Brackley Town Saints
Brimscombe & Thrupp
Fairford Town
Flackwell Heath
Reading City (formerly Highmoor Ibis)
Holmer Green (lateral move from Spartan SML)
Longlevens
Lydney Town
Oxford City Nomads
Royal Wootton Bassett Town
Shrivenham (Promoted from HL1W)
Tuffley Rovers
Virginia Water (Promoted from HL1E)
Wantage Town
Windsor


Division One East:

Abingdon Town (Promoted from HL2E)
AFC Aldermaston
Burnham (Relegated from HPL)
Chalvey Sports (Promoted from HL2E)
Chinnor
Didcot Town Reserves
Henley Town
Holyport
Milton United
Penn & Tylers Green
Thame Youth
Wallingford Town
Wokingham & Emmbrook
Woodley United (Relegated from HLP)


Division One West:

Almondsbury (lateral move from Western L1)
Bicester Town (lateral move from HL1E)
Carterton (Promoted from HL2W)
Cheltenham Saracens
Cirencester Town Development
Clanfield 85
Easington Sports
Kidlington Reserves
Malmesbury Victoria (lateral move from Western L1)
New College Swindon
North Leigh United
Pewsey Vale
Thornbury Town
Tytherington Rocks



I'm glad to see Ardley United back up in the Premier Division - they've always seemed to be a hardworking club, and have a history of playing some of the best football in the Hellenic. And Abingdon Town moving up a step is gladdening to see, too. I'm looking forward to seeing more Hellenic matches next season.


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Newent have been accepted into division 1 west since that provisional constitution was released. There may be more changes too, while there has also been some confusion about Henley's inclusion and whether it was a mistake!


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Any news on the Division Two allocation of clubs for next season in the Hellenic?



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Mr. T
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Jun 23, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Isn't Thornbury also a promoted club?


paulh66
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Jun 30, 2018, 3:12 PM

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Chalvey Sports have tweeted the draft constitution for Division 2 East, which I assume is what'll be up for approval at the forthcoming AGM:

Aston Clinton
Chalfont Wasps
Chalvey Sports Res
Chinnor (presumably reserves)
Langley
Long Crendon
Old Bradwell Utd Dev
Penn & Tylers Green (presumably reserves)
Risborough Rang Dev
Stokenchurch
Taplow United
Thatcham Town (presumably reserves)
Virginia Water Dev
Wallingford Town (presumably reserves)
Yateley


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paulh66
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Division One East:

Abingdon Town (Promoted from HL2E)
AFC Aldermaston
Burnham (Relegated from HPL)
Chalvey Sports (Promoted from HL2E)
Chinnor
Didcot Town Reserves
Henley Town
Holyport
Milton United
Penn & Tylers Green
Thame Youth
Wallingford Town
Wokingham & Emmbrook
Woodley United (Relegated from HLP)


Chalvey have today tweeted a revised constitution for 1 East which now includes Bicester but not Henley. Still 14 teams.


(This post was edited by paulh66 on Jun 30, 2018, 3:47 PM)


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Jul 6, 2018, 12:09 PM

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The Hellenic League have asked for a meeting with the FA & are waiting for the FA to organise a date. I believe they have a lot of questions to put to the FA.


Tim
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Jul 6, 2018, 12:58 PM

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There is now a line up on Full Time. No sign of Oxford City Nomads; Old Bradwell United are listed in Division 2 East - might be their reserves, but I reckon it is the same level as their first team; Langley, Taplow United and Yateley United are also in that division. Aston Clinton are called Development, which seems a bit odd. Adderbury Park are in Division 2 West.

One wonders if this is still a work in progress....


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Jul 6, 2018, 1:44 PM

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There is now a line up on Full Time. No sign of Oxford City Nomads; Old Bradwell United are listed in Division 2 East - might be their reserves, but I reckon it is the same level as their first team; Langley, Taplow United and Yateley United are also in that division. Aston Clinton are called Development, which seems a bit odd. Adderbury Park are in Division 2 West.

One wonders if this is still a work in progress....


The Hellenic Division Twos are not at Step 7. They have not had that status bestowed upon them by the FA. That may seem illogical, but its the fact all the same.

Therefore without that designation at present, threy're effectively Steo 8 divisions...or just divisions without a designated level. Kind of floaty divisions that haven't been tied down!

If the divisions had Steo 7 status Old Bradwell United Reserves (and of course Aston Clinton's second string) would not be allowed to play in the division, as their first team also plays at that level over in the SSML Div Two.

Their reserves were in the North Bucks & District League last season, and resigned at the end of the season, noted in the NB&DL league management minutes, so mystery solved as to where they have gone!


Tim
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Jul 6, 2018, 1:48 PM

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I understand what you are saying. But how have Newent Town managed to bypass the County League in order to move from a notional Step 8 to Step 6? I foresee more internal promotions......


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I understand what you are saying. But how have Newent Town managed to bypass the County League in order to move from a notional Step 8 to Step 6? I foresee more internal promotions......


Same way that Carterton, Abingdon Town and Chalvey all bypassed their Step 7 competitions I guess!

The Hellenic would have taken anybody from anywhere and the FA would have allowed it, because the league's middle name begins with a D and rhymes with.....Lesperation and the FA's attitude towards the league is unfathomable!! They even tried to include Henley Town, a club who's first team don't even exist!


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Oxford City Nomads also withdrawn from the Vase.


Tim
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Oxford City Nomads also withdrawn from the Vase.


19 team division: spreadsheets messed up and cue apoplexy at FA Mission Control. Stick Fleet Town in quick...


paulh66
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There is now a line up on Full Time. ....Old Bradwell United are listed in Division 2 East - might be their reserves, but I reckon it is the same level as their first team;

One wonders if this is still a work in progress....



If the divisions had Steo 7 status Old Bradwell United Reserves (and of course Aston Clinton's second string) would not be allowed to play in the division, as their first team also plays at that level over in the SSML Div Two.

Their reserves were in the North Bucks & District League last season, and resigned at the end of the season, noted in the NB&DL league management minutes, so mystery solved as to where they have gone!


Re OBU, it'll be their development team - see post #6, which I lifted from the document Chalvey tweeted.

I reckon what's now on fulltime are the constitutions which are being put forward for approval at Sunday's AGM.


Sarumio
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There is now a line up on Full Time. ....Old Bradwell United are listed in Division 2 East - might be their reserves, but I reckon it is the same level as their first team;

One wonders if this is still a work in progress....



If the divisions had Steo 7 status Old Bradwell United Reserves (and of course Aston Clinton's second string) would not be allowed to play in the division, as their first team also plays at that level over in the SSML Div Two.

Their reserves were in the North Bucks & District League last season, and resigned at the end of the season, noted in the NB&DL league management minutes, so mystery solved as to where they have gone!


Re OBU, it'll be their development team - see post #6, which I lifted from the document Chalvey tweeted.

I reckon what's now on fulltime are the constitutions which are being put forward for approval at Sunday's AGM.


Reserves, Development, I really don't care what they are calling themselves - ita all amounts to the same and its OBU's second team, and its the team that was in the North Bucks & District League last season.


paulh66
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Simply helping to clarify an uncertainty for the readership.


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The Hellenic League have asked for a meeting with the FA & are waiting for the FA to organise a date. I believe they have a lot of questions to put to the FA.


Any idea of what these questions are or relate to Windy ?



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I understand what you are saying. But how have Newent Town managed to bypass the County League in order to move from a notional Step 8 to Step 6? I foresee more internal promotions......


Has actually happened quite a lot in the last few years.
It will get less and less because there will no longer be room for clubs from outside the NLS to start at step 6.
But there still a fair amount of room in the Hellenic League.


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Oxford City Nomads also withdrawn from the Vase.


19 team division: spreadsheets messed up and cue apoplexy at FA Mission Control. Stick Fleet Town in quick...


Too late for that.
They have accepted the decision bestowed upon them.


Dudley_BTFC
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Might they offer Woodley United a reprieve to run a 20 team Premier Division?

Not sure if Woodley would accept but they (finished second bottom) are next in line for a reprieve.


windydcfc
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The Hellenic League have asked for a meeting with the FA & are waiting for the FA to organise a date. I believe they have a lot of questions to put to the FA.


Any idea of what these questions are or relate to Windy ?



I don’t know the specific questions, but the fact that they’ve been left with 2 leagues of 14 & the FA can create 2 new leagues & can fill them. Will be close to the top! I understand the list is quite extensive thoughLaugh


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The Hellenic League have asked for a meeting with the FA & are waiting for the FA to organise a date. I believe they have a lot of questions to put to the FA.


Any idea of what these questions are or relate to Windy ?



I don’t know the specific questions, but the fact that they’ve been left with 2 leagues of 14 & the FA can create 2 new leagues & can fill them. Will be close to the top! I understand the list is quite extensive thoughLaugh


Maybe stress maybe the FALC wanted to go to one division at step 6 in spite of the distance involved.
The Hellenic did not like that and an agreement could not be reached.
Resulting in no real effort to alter anything in that area.


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Langley are playing homes games at Holyport in Division Two East


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I can think of a number of issues that the Hellenic might want to discuss with the FA
  1. Allowing non-compliant clubs into Step 6 (FA sure to say no, as it would cause a precedent for other parts of the country_
  2. Whether the step 6 division should consolidate into a single divison, losing clubs from the periphery. It seems the league are against this, but I wonder what the clubs in the centre of the area think? The league is currently split around Oxford.
  3. The refusal to allow in the Herefordshire clubs. Never a possibility at a late stage, but possible en-masse if two divisions are kept.
  4. The status of Division 2. I guess the Hellenic would like these to be official step 7, but letting in teams associated with Step 7 clubs does not help the argument




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