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Unicorn
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East Counties League/ Essex Senior League. Can't Post or Reply Privately

What are the two Step 6 leagues actually going to be called.
Some say one will be Eastern Counties Division One North and the other one called Eastern Senior League Division one South.
Others say its simply Eastern Senior League North and South.

Which is correct.


Unicorn
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As 1037 people have now viewed this and not given an answer i will assume that nobody knows.Smile


windydcfc
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There’s the Eastern Counties Football League Division 1 North & Eastern Counties Football League Eastern Senior League South



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Unicorn
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Thanks for that.
But good God what a mouthfull.


villan
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Jun 11, 2018, 2:16 PM

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Perhaps this is all a FA ploy to persuade Essex senior league to change it's name to say Eastern Counties League South & then each league can have there own step 5/6 set ups.



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windydcfc
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Re: [villan] East Counties League/ Essex Senior League. [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

The ESL1S has 7 clubs waiting in the wings, to replace Wadham Lodge(if reprieved). I believe there are 4 clubs waiting in the wings for the ESL1N.



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Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


Sarumio
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The ESL1S has 7 clubs waiting in the wings, to replace Wadham Lodge(if reprieved). I believe there are 4 clubs waiting in the wings for the ESL1N.


There shouldn't be any Essex sides waiting in the wings - you can't just keep dragging up the next Essex lucky loser pub team when something changes above!

Any vacancies now should be filled by

Brigg....Retford....S&L Corby....Bolehall......Stafford Town.....Oakham......Radlciffe Olympic

Actual proper football clubs, with proper football grounds of their own, supprters, communities that they serve, etc

Of course it won't happen and we'll soon find some cruddy reserve side filling the vacancy!


ictoan
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Jun 11, 2018, 4:34 PM

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There shouldn't be any Essex sides waiting in the wings - you can't just keep dragging up the next Essex lucky loser pub team when something changes above!

Any vacancies now should be filled by

Brigg....Retford....S&L Corby....Bolehall......Stafford Town.....Oakham......Radlciffe Olympic
!


Will they be happy with the travelling to Essex ?



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TrevorT
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Jun 11, 2018, 7:37 PM

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Perhaps this is all a FA ploy to persuade Essex senior league to change it's name to say Eastern Counties League South & then each league can have there own step 5/6 set ups.


All it would take is to persuade the step 5 Essex Senior League to change the word Essex to the word Eastern and you have a clearer, less confusing position. The step 6’s were set up to feed the Eastern Counties in the North and the Essex Senior in the South and that wouldn’t change but we would then have names of Leagues that are obvious second tiers to the step 5 League above.

Other benefits would see the ESL acronym being used and distinguishable from the ECL acronym, plus Hertfordshire clubs such as Hoddesdon may feel less aggrieved joining a League called Eastern rather than a League called Essex.

Who knows - maybe in the future


Homer
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Jun 11, 2018, 8:49 PM

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You see there is a lot of, for want of a better phrase I'll call it snobbery. There are clubs outside Essex who would rather be in a league that didn't have 'Essex' in the title. Within Essex there is 'London' Essex (within the M25) and 'Country' Essex (outside the M25). A pal of mine who is a Stanway supporter is mortified at the prospect of midweek away games in 'London', ditto Clacton pals are upset at being the only Essex team in ECL Premier. Some Wivenhoe chums are thinking they have been cast into a pub pitches league.


Geoff
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As far as I am aware the two step 6 leagues in Essex & East Anglia are to be called the Eastern Senior League North & The Eastern Senior League South. The former will be, in effect, the old Eastern Counties Division 1 under a new name. Both will be run by a committee with representatives from the Essex Senior League & The Eastern Counties League but will be administered by the latter.
I am unaware of seven clubs “waiting in the wings” for a place in the Southern Division should one become available. As I understand it, when a replacement was needed for Eton Manor the only club who showed an interest from the original applicants who had initially missed out was Brightlingsea Reserves.
I am not sure that changing the League’s name to Eastern would make a blind bit of difference other than to make it less clear the area it covers, not that that mattered when the Sussex & Kent Leagues came up with new names of course.
Perhaps making it the Essex & Lee (or Lea) Valley League would help, although based on the recent name change the Top Right-Hand Corner of the South East League could be a contender.


TrevorT
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Jun 12, 2018, 12:02 AM

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Yes Geoff if I’m honest I thought that what you say about the Eastern Senior League, with it’s North and South divisions was how it was going to be. And my suggestion to change the Essex Senior League at step 5 to the Eastern Senior League was just a thought given what others on this forum have said about what it will be called, which differs to what you and I thought.

If the Eastern Senior League (North and South) will indeed be effectively a separate step 6 League, I would expect to see a League website complete with fixtures, tables and club directory etc, maybe a League logo and a twitter account? Otherwise all the above will be part of the Eastern Counties website I guess.


Ashtree RockBee
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Jun 14, 2018, 10:22 AM

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As far as I am aware the two step 6 leagues in Essex & East Anglia are to be called the Eastern Senior League North & The Eastern Senior League South. The former will be, in effect, the old Eastern Counties Division 1 under a new name. Both will be run by a committee with representatives from the Essex Senior League & The Eastern Counties League but will be administered by the latter.
I am unaware of seven clubs “waiting in the wings” for a place in the Southern Division should one become available. As I understand it, when a replacement was needed for Eton Manor the only club who showed an interest from the original applicants who had initially missed out was Brightlingsea Reserves.
I am not sure that changing the League’s name to Eastern would make a blind bit of difference other than to make it less clear the area it covers, not that that mattered when the Sussex & Kent Leagues came up with new names of course.
Perhaps making it the Essex & Lee (or Lea) Valley League would help, although based on the recent name change the Top Right-Hand Corner of the South East League could be a contender.


How about South East Anglia League, or SEAL for short?

After all, there was a short lived West Anglian League in the mid 90's.


pitch 63
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Jun 14, 2018, 4:34 PM

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As far as I am aware the two step 6 leagues in Essex & East Anglia are to be called the Eastern Senior League North & The Eastern Senior League South. The former will be, in effect, the old Eastern Counties Division 1 under a new name. Both will be run by a committee with representatives from the Essex Senior League & The Eastern Counties League but will be administered by the latter.
I am unaware of seven clubs “waiting in the wings” for a place in the Southern Division should one become available. As I understand it, when a replacement was needed for Eton Manor the only club who showed an interest from the original applicants who had initially missed out was Brightlingsea Reserves.
I am not sure that changing the League’s name to Eastern would make a blind bit of difference other than to make it less clear the area it covers, not that that mattered when the Sussex & Kent Leagues came up with new names of course.
Perhaps making it the Essex & Lee (or Lea) Valley League would help, although based on the recent name change the Top Right-Hand Corner of the South East League could be a contender.


How about South East Anglia League, or SEAL for short?

After all, there was a short lived West Anglian League in the mid 90's.


There was a South East Anglia League between 1903-04 and 1907-08, which was renamed the East Anglian League in 1908-09 and lasted until the 1960s.

 
 


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