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kivo
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Chairman has had enough and decided to fold the first team.

Can of worms - open at your leisure...


doktorb berske
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Chairman has had enough and decided to fold the first team.

Can of worms - open at your leisure...


Aquaforce to SpentForce in about three seasons!



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jrev61
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Few who have seen them play will miss this nasty bunch.
Cue more teams being moved between leagues and an extra team promoted?



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paulh66
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The club's statement: http://www.shawlaneafc.com/....WxqaVPXtwZ0.twitter

Seems the owner's vision was slightly divorced from reality. A shame because the town could probably support a club with more modest aims, but I suppose they came from nowhere and disappeared back to nowhere relatively quickly, and nobody got hurt.

Anyway, I hear the distant sounds of spreadsheets rustling... Excel seems to be running quite slowly at the moment....Wink


Sale Holmfield
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Jun 8, 2018, 4:26 PM

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I am not greatly surprised, although I though they might have lasted another season before concluding they were going nowhere.

People weren't hurt, I am sure, but as a big payer at their level, they were contributing to inflation of players' wages, which could not be sustained, and will have gone up through the divisions at the expense of more traditional clubs.


Dazzla84
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Jun 8, 2018, 4:35 PM

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The club's statement: http://www.shawlaneafc.com/....WxqaVPXtwZ0.twitter

Seems the owner's vision was slightly divorced from reality. A shame because the town could probably support a club with more modest aims, but I suppose they came from nowhere and disappeared back to nowhere relatively quickly, and nobody got hurt.

Anyway, I hear the distant sounds of spreadsheets rustling... Excel seems to be running quite slowly at the moment....Wink


In this case, it'll probably be this

1. The NPL Premier division gains the most northerly team in the new Central League, which by geography will be wither Coalville Town or Hednesford Town

2. The vacant spot at Step 3 should be taken by the next best playoff losing finalist, in this case, Wimbourne Town

3. The vacant spot at Step 4 should be taken by the next best 3rd placed side at Step 5, in this case, it would be FC Romania from the Essex Senior league

Either that or because its come so late, then the NPL premier could operate one club short at 21 clubs


007Dale
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Jun 8, 2018, 4:41 PM

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The club's statement: http://www.shawlaneafc.com/....WxqaVPXtwZ0.twitter

Seems the owner's vision was slightly divorced from reality. A shame because the town could probably support a club with more modest aims, but I suppose they came from nowhere and disappeared back to nowhere relatively quickly, and nobody got hurt.

Anyway, I hear the distant sounds of spreadsheets rustling... Excel seems to be running quite slowly at the moment....Wink


In this case, it'll probably be this

1. The NPL Premier division gains the most northerly team in the new Central League, which by geography will be wither Coalville Town or Hednesford Town

2. The vacant spot at Step 3 should be taken by the next best playoff losing finalist, in this case, Wimbourne Town

3. The vacant spot at Step 4 should be taken by the next best 3rd placed side at Step 5, in this case, it would be FC Romania from the Essex Senior league

Either that or because its come so late, then the NPL premier could operate one club short at 21 clubs


Or at least keep the movements ‘in region’, so take the highest places step 3 team that would fit into the NPL footprint and so on...


ladderman
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Jun 8, 2018, 4:46 PM

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But the FA told us promoting clubs in region was impossible and would lead the demise of civilization and the earth's core disintegrating


windydcfc
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NPL statement, expect club movements within the national league system http://www.evostikleague.co.uk/...-shaw-lane-afc-51200


Mr. T
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1. The NPL Premier division gains the most northerly team in the new Central League, which by geography will be either Coalville Town or Hednesford Town

2. The vacant spot at Step 3 should be taken by the next best playoff losing finalist, in this case, Wimbourne Town

3. The vacant spot at Step 4 should be taken by the next best 3rd placed side at Step 5, in this case, it would be FC Romania from the Essex Senior league

Either that or because its come so late, then the NPL premier could operate one club short at 21 clubs


Who moves from SLP South to Central?


Dazzla84
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Jun 8, 2018, 5:03 PM

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1. The NPL Premier division gains the most northerly team in the new Central League, which by geography will be either Coalville Town or Hednesford Town

2. The vacant spot at Step 3 should be taken by the next best playoff losing finalist, in this case, Wimbourne Town

3. The vacant spot at Step 4 should be taken by the next best 3rd placed side at Step 5, in this case, it would be FC Romania from the Essex Senior league

Either that or because its come so late, then the NPL premier could operate one club short at 21 clubs


Who moves from SLP South to Central?


Probably Banbury


Dazzla84
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Jun 8, 2018, 5:08 PM

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Or at least keep the movements ‘in region’, so take the highest places step 3 team that would fit into the NPL footprint and so on...


That would be sensible but do that and expect legal challenges galore


windydcfc
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1. The NPL Premier division gains the most northerly team in the new Central League, which by geography will be either Coalville Town or Hednesford Town

2. The vacant spot at Step 3 should be taken by the next best playoff losing finalist, in this case, Wimbourne Town

3. The vacant spot at Step 4 should be taken by the next best 3rd placed side at Step 5, in this case, it would be FC Romania from the Essex Senior league

Either that or because its come so late, then the NPL premier could operate one club short at 21 clubs


Who moves from SLP South to Central?


Probably Banbury



Will there be a reprieve for a Essex Senior League Relegated club?


Dazzla84
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Jun 8, 2018, 5:14 PM

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1. The NPL Premier division gains the most northerly team in the new Central League, which by geography will be either Coalville Town or Hednesford Town

2. The vacant spot at Step 3 should be taken by the next best playoff losing finalist, in this case, Wimbourne Town

3. The vacant spot at Step 4 should be taken by the next best 3rd placed side at Step 5, in this case, it would be FC Romania from the Essex Senior league

Either that or because its come so late, then the NPL premier could operate one club short at 21 clubs


Who moves from SLP South to Central?


Probably Banbury



Will there be a reprieve for a Essex Senior League Relegated club?


Id think so if common sense is present


paulh66
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Jun 8, 2018, 5:24 PM

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Yep, 27 minutes was all it took for yet another football discussion to be hijacked by the pyramidistas! Laugh Sod the demise of a football club, there just aren't enough threads to speculate about reprieves, lateral movements etc...


steve walker
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Jun 8, 2018, 5:34 PM

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The discussion IS about what happens next and how it affects far more clubs than Shaw lane voluntarily winding themselves up. I think it's a fair topic.


ladderman
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Jun 8, 2018, 5:44 PM

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I'm sure if it was Tranmere, stortford or.....well any established club but people don't care about vanity projects. Purfleet /thurrock were around a lot longer, and few mourned them.
I know little of aquaforce, but the owner seemed good at pissing people off. He also seemed very quick to pull the trigger on his club. It took ten months to get a buyer for stortford, and that's the date from when we went public - feelers had been out for a while.


steve walker
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You can throw a stamp over which is further north, Hednesford or Coalville. Hednesford has better access to the North western clubs being next to the M6 and Coalville to the North Eastern via the M1. It's anyones guess I suppose.


paulh66
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I see their average gate was just shy of 200. A bit low for where the owner wanted to take them but still respectable for, say, up to step 4. Particularly in a town where, until the emergence of Athersley, there was no real non-league presence, if I'm not mistaken. Like you, I doubt there'll be much mourning given the image the club seems to have acquired but it does appear a wasted opportunity to build something worthwhile and long lasting, albeit smaller scale, in a town that could probably support and benefit from such a venture.

Still, I suppose it's his money and much of his time and effort..


doktorb berske
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Jun 8, 2018, 6:00 PM

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Yep, 27 minutes was all it took for yet another football discussion to be hijacked by the pyramidistas! Laugh Sod the demise of a football club, there just aren't enough threads to speculate about reprieves, lateral movements etc...

To be fair, there is little left to discuss about Shaw Lane. We know their story, we know the Chairman, we know the relationship with Barnsley.

Their demise has consequences for the league and it's worth asking questions about the administrative consequences.



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Reserves? Yes, why not?
Friendlies? No problem.
Bracketed ticks? Come on in, I say.

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How Scandinavian of me!"


swjoduk
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Jun 8, 2018, 6:00 PM

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What about Kings Lynn?


buckielugger
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I recall them getting thrown out of FA Trophy (quite rightly) for fielding a suspended player and they tried all sorts to get round it.

And yes obviously a lot would be made if a major club like Tranmere folded and very little about the likes of Shaw Lane or small clubs like Stortford. That's the nature of things.


aiwa
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The club's statement: http://www.shawlaneafc.com/....WxqaVPXtwZ0.twitter

Seems the owner's vision was slightly divorced from reality. A shame because the town could probably support a club with more modest aims, but I suppose they came from nowhere and disappeared back to nowhere relatively quickly, and nobody got hurt.

Anyway, I hear the distant sounds of spreadsheets rustling... Excel seems to be running quite slowly at the moment....Wink


In this case, it'll probably be this

1. The NPL Premier division gains the most northerly team in the new Central League, which by geography will be wither Coalville Town or Hednesford Town

2. The vacant spot at Step 3 should be taken by the next best playoff losing finalist, in this case, Wimbourne Town

3. The vacant spot at Step 4 should be taken by the next best 3rd placed side at Step 5, in this case, it would be FC Romania from the Essex Senior league

Either that or because its come so late, then the NPL premier could operate one club short at 21 clubs


On point #2, would the vacant spot at Step 3 not be taken by a reprieve, which in this case might be Tooting?


Lillywhite
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You can throw a stamp over which is further north, Hednesford or Coalville. Hednesford has better access to the North western clubs being next to the M6 and Coalville to the North Eastern via the M1. It's anyones guess I suppose.


I wouldn’t rule out King’s Lynn Town being placed North.


paulh66
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And yes obviously a lot would be made if a major club like Tranmere folded and very little about the likes of Shaw Lane or small clubs like Stortford. That's the nature of things.


Well yes, that's why we have a non-league forum for such things.
But shame on ladderman for injecting such a scurrilous notion into proceedings....Wink


(This post was edited by paulh66 on Jun 8, 2018, 6:27 PM)

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