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PaulC
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Apr 16, 2018, 6:58 PM

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Here’s another question.

Our friends, Saudi Arabia, have used cluster bombs in Yemen. Should we destroy their stockpile (which they got from the UK)?

The UK, of course, is a signatory to the convention outlawing cluster bombs.


PaulC
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So there was no chemical attack in Douma.

Respected journalist Robert Fisk reports from the town.

https://t.co/1tNkJFopzE


kirby knitters
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So there was no chemical attack in Douma.

Respected journalist Robert Fisk reports from the town.

https://t.co/1tNkJFopzE

Claims there was no chemical attack in Douma! A respected journo who is a defender of the Assad regime but an interesting story all the same.



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PaulC
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Apr 16, 2018, 10:01 PM

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So there was no chemical attack in Douma.

Respected journalist Robert Fisk reports from the town.

https://t.co/1tNkJFopzE

Claims there was no chemical attack in Douma! A respected journo who is a defender of the Assad regime but an interesting story all the same.


Twice UK journalist of the year.


Climate Change
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Apr 16, 2018, 10:24 PM

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So there was no chemical attack in Douma.

Respected journalist Robert Fisk reports from the town.

https://t.co/1tNkJFopzE

Claims there was no chemical attack in Douma! A respected journo who is a defender of the Assad regime but an interesting story all the same.


Twice UK journalist of the year.


The Daily Mail has been newspaper of the year 7 times since 1993...your point is?



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broodleyhoo
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Apr 17, 2018, 7:18 AM

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Changing the angle of the discussion a bit, yesterday's events showed why Corbyn could never be PM.

Don't get me wrong. I support many of his policies, don't buy any of the scare stories about spies and all that and think, at heart he's a decent kind of bloke.

But a leader? Never.

For all that in realpolitik the airstrikes were necessary to placate the hawks they were both pointless in their targeting and May's excuse that it was a matter of urgency was laughable, given that there were at least 5 days between attack and response.

On top of that by allowing the executive to ignore Parliament she lost the one thing that still gives the UK moral authority in the world, namely that we aren't a place where the leader can just go off and do things unilaterally but policy is debated and discussed in public.

Corbyn could have successfully attacked her on any of those points - but chose to use the UN line - which allowed Tories, and many on his side to successfully cast him (however untruthfully) as a friend of the Ruskies and so un British, undemocratic and someone not to be trusted. What should have been an easy victory in the HoC was turned into a rout.

As a result of this, public support for the air strikes has apparently gone from about 20% to 50%. A better example of fashioning defeat from the tools of victory couldn't be found.

Me? Air strikes were pointless and illogical willy-waving. But if it keeps the hawks happy whilst the diplomats can try to do their work it will have served some purpose at seemingly minimal or no cost to human lives.


R.S.Cavendish
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Apr 17, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Bradshaw
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Apr 17, 2018, 8:26 PM

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Which leads us nicely onto another facet of this sad blot on the landscape: just how much did this little fireworks display cost the hard-pressed British tax payer? It seems we can always find money for a war chest. I cannot even begin to calculate the amount wasted on such a futile exercise but I bet it would have paid for a hospital or two or even a safe new home in the UK for a couple of thousand Syrian orphans.

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