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Tykeoldboy
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The media and some fans say the Europa League isn't worth bothering with but the last eight teams this season are:

Arsenal
Atletico Madrid
CSKA Moscow
Lazio
Marseille
RB Leipzig
RB Salzburg
Sporting Lisbon

There are some big clubs left representing eight different countries. With RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg reaching this the Q/F this must start to concern UEFA.


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UEFA ruled before the season began that the ownership of Leipzig and Salzburg were separate enough for both to be allowed to enter European competition. Had they ruled otherwise one wouldn't have been allowed to take part.


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I know UEFA discussed this at the start of the season and one of the teams looked like they wouldn't be allowed to enter. If Leizip and Salzburg are drawn together there is going to be rumours of match fixing even if there isn't.


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Surely match fixing would only be an issue in a league format. In knockout tie it's win-win.


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Surely match fixing would only be an issue in a league format. In knockout tie it's win-win.


The main sponsor who I won't name but their initials are part of both club names, could influence the outcome to suit their own agenda, if they wanted to do this. In the end, having one of their teams winning the Europa League is good for their brand.


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Surely match fixing would only be an issue in a league format. In knockout tie it's win-win.


The main sponsor who I won't name but their initials are part of both club names, could influence the outcome to suit their own agenda, if they wanted to do this. In the end, having one of their teams winning the Europa League is good for their brand.

Yes, but why would they fix the match for one team to win over the other? Surely the best way to decide which club is best equipped to represent the brand is to have a play off and see who wins. If they were in a group stage one might throw the game against the other to help them out, but that doesn't apply in a knock out scenario. One of their teams MUST win.


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Surely match fixing would only be an issue in a league format. In knockout tie it's win-win.


The main sponsor who I won't name but their initials are part of both club names, could influence the outcome to suit their own agenda, if they wanted to do this. In the end, having one of their teams winning the Europa League is good for their brand.

Yes, but why would they fix the match for one team to win over the other? Surely the best way to decide which club is best equipped to represent the brand is to have a play off and see who wins. If they were in a group stage one might throw the game against the other to help them out, but that doesn't apply in a knock out scenario. One of their teams MUST win.


Agree, plus if you assume match fixing, that requires the involvement of 11 players, not that easy and certainly not without a high risk of it being leaked.


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Yes, but why would they fix the match for one team to win over the other? Surely the best way to decide which club is best equipped to represent the brand is to have a play off and see who wins. If they were in a group stage one might throw the game against the other to help them out, but that doesn't apply in a knock out scenario. One of their teams MUST win.

Not suggesting this is the case, I haven't looked at league tables for starters, but ...

If one of the teams has as good as clinched a CL spot via the domestic league but the other not, a certain result could be seen as an attempt to have two branded teams in the CL next season



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RB Salzburg have won the league for the last 4 seasons and are likely to do so again this season. RB Leipzig will not win their league and are, at present, not in the CL places.

A top level German team will always have more clout/kudos/call it what you will than an Austrian one, but the German FA will not allow the owner/sponsor name to form part of the official name of the club.

What all this means to RB in terms of marketing/brand etc only they will know, but reading the relevant UEFA regulations it does seem that the decision to allow both to compete would not necessarily have been a shoe-in.


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the German FA will not allow the owner/sponsor name to form part of the official name of the club.


Except in the case of Bayer Leverkusen.



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the German FA will not allow the owner/sponsor name to form part of the official name of the club.


Except in the case of Bayer Leverkusen.


or Opel Rüsselsheim.


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mick
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the German FA will not allow the owner/sponsor name to form part of the official name of the club.


Except in the case of Bayer Leverkusen.


Please keep up. - "the club" being discussed is RB Leipzig. The fact that other German clubs are allowed to have owner/sponsors names in their title has nothing to do with potential conflicts of interest in this seasons Europa League.

If someone wants to start another thread - "German football clubs with sponsors name in title" we could soon get well into double figures.


(This post was edited by mick on Mar 20, 2018, 2:48 PM)


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RB Salzburg have won the league for the last 4 seasons and are likely to do so again this season. RB Leipzig will not win their league and are, at present, not in the CL places.

A top level German team will always have more clout/kudos/call it what you will than an Austrian one, but the German FA will not allow the owner/sponsor name to form part of the official name of the club.

What all this means to RB in terms of marketing/brand etc only they will know, but reading the relevant UEFA regulations it does seem that the decision to allow both to compete would not necessarily have been a shoe-in.

Fair enough, that makes sense.

 
 


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