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PaulC
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Still, good news to see the Gov't are finally get their act together and populating the Civil Service with an army of thousands of new recruits to deliver Brexit and to create the new agencies that will be required after we Leave.


Has it been costed?


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The biggest regret of the process was the inability of the Remainer politicians to join the Gov't in a show of national unity and deliver a Brexit that the majority could buy in to.

-- As I've said several times, the Conservative government have taken on the referendum result, interpreted it in their own way (an interpretation which I believe is NOT what the majority voted for), and run the Brexit project itself. Other parties have not been invited to form a national committee, which would have represented the UK people rather than various factions of the Tories. I remember early on May wouldn't even divulge details of her Brexit plan to other parties because it would 'damage the UK's negotiating position'. I repeat, 'the people' voted in the referendum but 'the people' are not being represented in the Brexit project.


Ronsdog's quote/comment above seems to sum it up quite well:
'Both Soubry and Umanna briefly and only briefly commented on this when they conceded that ....."Brexit exposes the failings of our two main parties. It's an uncomfortable truth that many millions of voters feel that neither represent them. " ........include me and many remainers as well as levers within those millions. Both sides of the argument simply want our politicos to secure a deal. They are currently failing miserably in that task and allowing the EU to set the agenda and dynamic'.

Still no sign of the Brexit project involving any but the Conservatives. Perhaps it's getting too late now, maybe the divides and frustrations are already too deep. Much like the EU's frustration with what they've had from the UK so far.



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Still, good news to see the Gov't are finally get their act together and populating the Civil Service with an army of thousands of new recruits to deliver Brexit and to create the new agencies that will be required after we Leave.


Has it been costed?


Yes ... 350million per week apparently. .....


PaulC
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Still, good news to see the Gov't are finally get their act together and populating the Civil Service with an army of thousands of new recruits to deliver Brexit and to create the new agencies that will be required after we Leave.


Has it been costed?


Yes ... 350million per week apparently. .....


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Nowt for the NHS then.


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Rumours that the Chancellor is going to lay the foundations today for a new NHS tax to be announced in the autumn budget.

This would mean a reduction in general income tax and then a flat rate of tax for the NHS - heard 5% mentioned, but no idea if that would cover the costs.

I think the principle is a good idea. Anyone moaning about funding for NHS then gets hit with the increased tax stick. The reality is we want more money spent on it but don't want taxes increased, this will allow more open and honest discussions about it.


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The reality is we want more money spent on it but don't want taxes increased, this will allow more open and honest discussions about it.


I don't mind taxes being increased if we get better public services in return. Ever since Thatcher, taxation has been a dirty word. no party (apart from the SNP) dare increase them because they know the flak they will get from the neo-liberals in control of the media and the right wing political parties in this country.

When you look at the state of our public services Thatcher has a lot to answer for. If only we could be as forward thinking as the Scandinavians instead of trying to emulate the Americans.


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What they and others can't come to terms with is that the people's wishes , that's the 52%, should be enacted as was promised before the refendum took place. Instead of carping on, just like Cable, they should be getting behind our current negotiators to seek the best terms that we can.


Looks like the Brexiteers are getting their excuses ready for ending up with a lousy deal.


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Rumours that the Chancellor is going to lay the foundations today for a new NHS tax to be announced in the autumn budget.

This would mean a reduction in general income tax and then a flat rate of tax for the NHS - heard 5% mentioned, but no idea if that would cover the costs.

I think the principle is a good idea. Anyone moaning about funding for NHS then gets hit with the increased tax stick. The reality is we want more money spent on it but don't want taxes increased, this will allow more open and honest discussions about it.

Where will that end? Separate taxes for defence? Welfare? Education? How much will it cost to administer? How many quangos will be set up to monitor whether such a tax is actually only being spent on the NHS.

Fiddling while Rome burns.

Of course if we had had a separate tax to fund our EU contributions everyone would grasp how little our membership actually costs us in comparison to those big ticket items.


(This post was edited by Part-Timer on Mar 13, 2018, 2:18 PM)


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It will be interesting to see if Buncranaboy gets overtaken as the top forum poster by the likes of Paul C, Yatesman and Ronsdog on the strength of their contributions to this thread by the time we're due to leave the EU on Friday 29th March 2019. Tongue

Are you worried about losing your top ten posters position?

Terrified. Being amongst the other posters on this list makes me feel soooo important! Tongue



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Being amongst the other posters on this list makes me feel soooo important!



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If I go for the life membership do I get a 'Clique' badge to wear to matches? Cool



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If I go for the life membership do I get a 'Clique' badge to wear to matches? Cool


Only if you also wear Clique Happy Perfume at all matches.


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The reality is we want more money spent on it but don't want taxes increased, this will allow more open and honest discussions about it.


I don't mind taxes being increased if we get better public services in return. Ever since Thatcher, taxation has been a dirty word. no party (apart from the SNP) dare increase them because they know the flak they will get from the neo-liberals in control of the media and the right wing political parties in this country.

When you look at the state of our public services Thatcher has a lot to answer for. If only we could be as forward thinking as the Scandinavians instead of trying to emulate the Americans.


Giving more cash to the NHS is like shovelling money in to a furnace.

I would happily give more of my earnings to the State if I thought they valued that money and would use it wisely. Evidence suggests otherwise.

The Skandi type welfare systems are a better mix of private and State provision and free market access but with a much higher flat rate of tax. That means the less well off pay more but are better covered.
A better system and doesn't penalise the better earners and therefore still encourages enterprise and entrepreneurials.


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Third biggest FTSE company, Unilever, is moving its HQ to the Netherlands.

Maybe they'll rename it Unileaver.


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Third biggest FTSE company, Unilever, is moving its HQ to the Netherlands.

Maybe they'll rename it Unileaver.

According to their CEO it's nothing to do with Brexit but more to do with cost saving and to protect themselves against hostile bids.
They operate in 190 countries worldwide and Brexit is of no concern to them at all.
Two divisions of Unilever are still based in the UK , Beauty and Home care products and approx 6300 jobs are here.
He was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning.
Sorry, Paul C but your credibility for balanced reporting is busted once again😆


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Third biggest FTSE company, Unilever, is moving its HQ to the Netherlands.

Maybe they'll rename it Unileaver.

According to their CEO it's nothing to do with Brexit but more to do with cost saving and to protect themselves against hostile bids.
They operate in 190 countries worldwide and Brexit is of no concern to them at all.
Two divisions of Unilever are still based in the UK , Beauty and Home care products and approx 6300 jobs are here.
He was interviewed on Radio 4 this morning.
Sorry, Paul C but your credibility for balanced reporting is busted once again😆


What was inaccurate in what I reported?


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Nothing was wrong in what you reported, Paul C

I suspect that Yatesman has believed that the CEO of Unilever would never put a spin on anything he said.


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This decision, long on the making, is as likely to be about Brexit as it is about the possibility of Jeremy Corbyn coming to power.

In common with most Multi-Nationals, this consumer products giant, is making decisions based on any financial advantage and market protection it can gain.


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This decision, long on the making, is as likely to be about Brexit as it is about the possibility of Jeremy Corbyn coming to power.

In common with most Multi-Nationals, this consumer products giant, is making decisions based on any financial advantage and market protection it can gain.


Are any multinationals moving to the UK now they will be able to enjoy the benefits of Brexit?


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This decision, long on the making, is as likely to be about Brexit as it is about the possibility of Jeremy Corbyn coming to power.

In common with most Multi-Nationals, this consumer products giant, is making decisions based on any financial advantage and market protection it can gain.


Are any multinationals moving to the UK now they will be able to enjoy the benefits of Brexit?


Irrespective of Brexit the UK still attracts the bulk of inward investment into Europe.
(Source FT)

But, we need to rebalance the economy, and from this imperative government no longer has a hiding place. Our new freedom and EU contribution monies mean the government, at last, has the mandate and the resources to support our small and medium-sized exporters, and not be transfixed by the often protectionist multinationals.

We must invest in universities and research and development and actually build infrastructure, not just talk about it. Seek the lowest-cost sources of energy rather than burdening consumers with massive bills. Provide non-equity loan capital and finance for entrepreneurs, growing firms and the tech sector, even if it means the City turning a buck less.


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Agree that we need to invest, build, and rebalance. Regardless of Brexit.

Whatever the reasons for Unilever's decision, it's not the first sign that the UK has been seen recently as a less attractive place to invest/expand a business.

So if the UK does do a hard Brexit, then this is another reminder that 'going it alone' and trying to create markets is not going to be easy. And I think the UK is woefully unprepared for it.



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Third biggest FTSE company, Unilever, is moving its HQ to the Netherlands.

Maybe they'll rename it Unileaver.


Unilever was originally a Dutch company [I can't remenber its name] that merged with the British Lever Brothers company. Initially after merger it kept the new group's HQ in the Netherlands but I think that it was in the 1950s that HQ moved to the UK.


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Third biggest FTSE company, Unilever, is moving its HQ to the Netherlands.

Maybe they'll rename it Unileaver.


Unilever was originally a Dutch company [I can't remenber its name] that merged with the British Lever Brothers company. Initially after merger it kept the new group's HQ in the Netherlands but I think that it was in the 1950s that HQ moved to the UK.


Unilever has held dual UK and Dutch listings on the stock exchange and has always had it's HQ in two locations. Rotterdam and London.

This latest move is as a result of a number of hostile takeover bids. It cab resist these bids more easily under Dutch law. It also makes financial sense to consolidate it's HQ operations on one site.
As said earlier. Two of it's main divisions are still HQ'd in the UK and it is currently building a new factory and investing 30million+ in this new plant in Runcorn ( I think).
Not exactly UniLeaving....

TBH it's all over the news today.
As for the history of the company. Wiki will have the info on them, I'm sure


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Agree that we need to invest, build, and rebalance. Regardless of Brexit.

Whatever the reasons for Unilever's decision, it's not the first sign that the UK has been seen recently as a less attractive place to invest/expand a business.

So if the UK does do a hard Brexit, then this is another reminder that 'going it alone' and trying to create markets is not going to be easy. And I think the UK is woefully unprepared for it.


Unilever's decision is not a sign of that at all and tbh your ignorance on the subject is staggering. Shooting from the lip as you do does not add to the debate in any way, shape or form.


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Agree that we need to invest, build, and rebalance. Regardless of Brexit.

Whatever the reasons for Unilever's decision, it's not the first sign that the UK has been seen recently as a less attractive place to invest/expand a business.

So if the UK does do a hard Brexit, then this is another reminder that 'going it alone' and trying to create markets is not going to be easy. And I think the UK is woefully unprepared for it.


Unilever's decision is not a sign of that at all and tbh your ignorance on the subject is staggering. Shooting from the lip as you do does not add to the debate in any way, shape or form.


I think you'll find the correct expression is 'shooting from the hip'. I won't suggest you are ignorant because you got it wrong!



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