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leohoenig
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...and yet we need food banks?



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Yatesman
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...and yet we need food banks?


We have food banks and people use them......need them?

We have near full employment and lots of job vacancies a universal benefits system and free education and health.

Poverty is often caused by poor choices.....to drink, smoke ,do drugs, not to cook at home as much as anything else.
I get that housing costs are expensive and delays in receivIngleton benefitake causes problems but a lot else is down to personal choice.

That's not poverty as the rest of the world understands it.....just saying!


steveking
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Apr 25, 2018, 5:45 PM

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...and yet we need food banks?


We have food banks and people use them......need them?

We have near full employment and lots of job vacancies a universal benefits system and free education and health.

Poverty is often caused by poor choices.....to drink, smoke ,do drugs, not to cook at home as much as anything else.
I get that housing costs are expensive and delays in receivIngleton benefitake causes problems but a lot else is down to personal choice.

That's not poverty as the rest of the world understands it.....just saying!

Well I guess poverty is a relative thing though that doesn't diminsh its effect on people but it seems that "full employment" is relative too. Do we really have "near full employment".


PaulC
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Poverty is often caused by poor choices.....to drink, smoke ,do drugs, not to cook at home as much as anything else.
I get that housing costs are expensive and delays in receivIngleton benefitake causes problems but a lot else is down to personal choice.


Not everyone is good at making the right choices. Are we going to condemn people simply because they are unable to make the right choices? Many peoples' lives are chaotic and although it is easy to look down on them and tell them it's their own fault , that isn't going to solve the problem of poverty and an uncaring Tory government.

16 million people in this country have under £100 in savings. Any small change in circumstances pushes them over the edge.

The Trussell Trust reported “Rather than acting as a service to ensure people do not face destitution, the evidence suggests that for people on the very lowest incomes … the poor functioning of universal credit can actually push people into a tide of bills, debts and, ultimately, lead them to a food bank. People are falling through the cracks in a system not made to hold them. What little support available is primarily offered by the third sector, whose work is laudable, but cannot be a substitute for a real, nationwide safety net.”

The poor don't vote in great numbers. Those who vote tend not to vote Tory. The Tories don't care about the most disadvantaged in our society - there are no votes in it for them and it's easy to tell them it's their own fault - they made the choices.


007Dale
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Apr 25, 2018, 6:57 PM

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The Trussell Trust reported “Rather than acting as a service to ensure people do not face destitution, the evidence suggests that for people on the very lowest incomes … the poor functioning of universal credit can actually push people into a tide of bills, debts and, ultimately, lead them to a food bank. People are falling through the cracks in a system not made to hold them. What little support available is primarily offered by the third sector, whose work is laudable, but cannot be a substitute for a real, nationwide safety net.”

The poor don't vote in great numbers. Those who vote tend not to vote Tory. The Tories don't care about the most disadvantaged in our society - there are no votes in it for them and it's easy to tell them it's their own fault - they made the choices.


Despite voting Tory at the last election (I don’t consider myself a Tory) I have spent some time over the last couple of years volunteering for food banks; in the warehouse, collecting food from supermarkets and also handing out food. I try not to judge, many can’t help the situation they are in, but i’d say this - many had more fashionable clothes on than me (maybe donated), but almost all of the adults had a very expensive mobile phone (iPhone 10 and the like).

It could be argued, that many people are not making the right choices, but that’s not to say we shouldn’t help them, however, is does bring an interesting question: what is the definition of poverty? Maybe in today’s world, not being able to afford an iPhone and food means you are in poverty?


greenwood
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May 20, 2018, 10:46 PM

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Thanks heavens the Royal Wedding is over. Mind you, you would have thought the groom would have at least shaved off his beard. I know beards are fashionable at the moment, but an ORANGE one? Must have ruined the spectacle for quite a few people.


(This post was edited by greenwood on May 20, 2018, 10:47 PM)


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Shame neither father could make it...........


jon b
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Meanwhile Lord Lucan could be spotted, riding Shergar on the grassy knoll, before heading back to Area 51.

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