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Tykeoldboy
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Tonga have shaken things up up a bit by beating New Zealand which probably means England facing Tonga in the SF. A good result for Scotland, a draw against Samoa, to finish off their eventful tournament


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Just caught up with the final group game highlights after a weekend away. As expected, the Tonga-NZ match was a cracker. Superb effort from the Tongans to come back from 2-16 down at half-time to lead 24-16 and eventually win 28-22. Game of the tournament thus far.

England? Oh, dear. Still so much to do. Started at a gallop against France then finished with a limp. Another patchy effort. Enough to beat a typically erratic French XIII 36-6 (would have been 36-12 but for a forward pass call), but that's about all. It's a very good job England aren't facing PNG (64-0 routers of the USA) in PNG in the quarters.

Very pleased embattled Scotland picked themselves up to draw 14-14 with Samoa. One of the surprise results of the tournament. If any one of three drop goal attempts in the last 10 minutes had gone over, the Scots would have won.

The rather daft format means the Samoans reach the last eight without winning a match while Ireland, 34-6 victors over an improved Wales (they couldn't get any worse), head home, despite also beating Italy.

Last eight:

Australia v Samoa (Darwin, Nov 17)
Tonga v Lebanon (Christchurch, Nov 18)
New Zealand v Fiji (Wellington, Nov 18)
England v PNG (Melbourne, Nov 19)

Australia and Tonga will cruise through. The other two ties, especially NZ-Fiji, look too close to call.




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You don't think Lebanon could pull off a surprise result against Tonga?


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I can't see it. The half-backs and a decent defence aside, Lebanon don't really have anything to threaten Tonga, who could win that quarter-final by a 20-point margin.




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Burgess boost for England ahead of the PNG quarter-final. I trust Sam's fully fit. If so, now is the time for him to find his best form. Unfortunately, second row Bateman appears to be a tournament-long fixture in the centre. Why?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...ugby-league/41980733




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Nice little story about the lengths to which some RL followers have to go to watch the World Cup...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/...mp;objectid=11944398




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Great piece about Papua New Guinea, the only country in the world where rugby league is the national sport...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...ugby-league/42011291




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Has there been any other team sport where the national team of England and Lebanon have met each other?


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Great Britain and Lebanon met in the ball hockey [ice hockey minus the ice] World Cup in the summer. GB won 2-1


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Has there been any other team sport where the national team of England and Lebanon have met each other?

Could one ask the same question about England and Papua New Guinea?




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Predictably big win for Australia in the first quarter-final. The defending champions saw off Samoa 46-0. Plenty of firsts. Chief talking point was winger Valentine Holmes becoming the first player to score five tries in a World Cup match. The Kangaroos, 30-0 up at half-time, crossed eight times. This was the first rugby league Test staged in steamy Darwin, which responded with a sell-out crowd. Queenslander Belinda Sleeman, a print journalist, was one of the touch judges. She is the first woman to officiate at a rugby league World Cup tournament. Australia now face either Fiji or New Zealand in Brisbane on November 24th.




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Has there been any other team sport where the national team of England and Lebanon have met each other?

Could one ask the same question about England and Papua New Guinea?


England and Papua New Guinea played each other at Netball in 1975 and there are presumably a few other sports at which the teams have met in the Commonwealth Games (I suspect Bowls would be one)


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I don't do rugby - north or south versions - but is 4-2 a rare score
in either of said codes?

Somebody once told me that an England v Scotland game in the
erstwhile five nations finished 0-0...must be rare for such scores, no?



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Great Britain and Lebanon met in the ball hockey [ice hockey minus the ice] World Cup in the summer. GB won 2-1



Does Lebanon actually play the other version? I'd have thought the only ice they use in that country, is in a glass!


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Great Britain and Lebanon met in the ball hockey [ice hockey minus the ice] World Cup in the summer. GB won 2-1



Does Lebanon actually play the other version? I'd have thought the only ice they use in that country, is in a glass!


The Lebanese ice hockey team made their debut earlier this year, playing a number of friendlies in Canada. I suspect the majority, if not all, of the team are Canadian residents of Lebanese ancestry.


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I don't do rugby - north or south versions - but is 4-2 a rare score
in either of said codes?

Somebody once told me that an England v Scotland game in the
erstwhile five nations finished 0-0...must be rare for such scores, no?

In modern rugby league, 4-2 is an unusually low - but far from unheard of - final score. Union, being less open and frequently rather turgid, tends to throw up a greater number of low scores and try-less games. Never witnessed a 0-0 in 45 years of watching league or 35 years of watching union. I recall, in league, seeing a 2-0 (at Huddersfield, versus Swinton, circa 1975) and, in union, a 3-0 (at Scarborough, versus York, 2011).

Great to see the Fiji-NZ and Lebanon-Tonga quarter-finals were so close and competitive. The latter game looked a belter, with Lebanon scoring probably the try of the tournament. A shame I had to make do merely with the BBC's highlights. Very close to getting an upset in both ties. Something similar is likely tomorrow morning, when misfiring England face buoyant Papua New Guinea. Alarm clock set for 4.30!




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Whatever happened to the South Africa? I have memories of them competing in a RLWC but a good few years ago now. Has Union completely killed the game?



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Whatever happened to the South Africa? I have memories of them competing in a RLWC but a good few years ago now. Has Union completely killed the game?

South Africa failed to qualify for this RL World Cup (can't recall who beat them in their eliminator). It seems as though union is struggling in South Africa at the moment.




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Whatever happened to the South Africa? I have memories of them competing in a RLWC but a good few years ago now. Has Union completely killed the game?

South Africa failed to qualify for this RL World Cup (can't recall who beat them in their eliminator). It seems as though union is struggling in South Africa at the moment.

South Africa lost a two-Test Middle East-Africa play-off against Lebanon, who won 40-12 and 50-16. Both games were played in Brakpan (Gauteng Province).




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Not sure it was worth the pre-dawn alarm call to watch erratic England beat Papua New Guinea 36-6 in Melbourne. Far too many errors (20), many unforced, from Wayne Bennett's men. Fortunately, the Kumuls weren't dangerous enough to take advantage. Essentially, when England are good, they're very good (as we saw from the defence and two of the second half tries); when they're bad, they're awful (how many knock-ons?). We need the former for next week's semi-final against Tonga in Auckland.

Fartown winger Jermaine McGillvary, who scored two tries and assisted for two, again the big plus. Shaping up to be the player of the tournament. His assists both for Kallum Watkins, official man of the match. The difference, at centre, between John Bateman (ponderous) and Watkins (mercurial) is absolutely eye-popping. Bateman simply has to be dropped for the Tonga game. He is NOT a centre. I'd like to see the lively and effective James Roby start, too. Big concern over Kevin Brown who, having sustained concussion in an accidental face to shoulder collision, might not make the Auckland match, which would mean an unwelcome reshuffle.

Overall, a largely disappointing game, especially after the exciting Fiji-NZ and Lebanon-Tonga quarter-finals. To boot, it was poorly refereed by Dewsbury whistler James Child, who didn't get much useful help from his touch judges. Still, an England win is an England win, especially over such notoriously difficult opponents.

Last four line-up:

Australia v Fiji (Brisbane, November 24th)

England v Tonga (Auckland, November 25th)




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4-2 is now an impossible score in Rugby Union.

The last tier one international union match to finish 0-0 was Scotland v New Zealand in 1964 according to Saturday's Daily Telegraph which had an article about it.

I seem to recall watching a rugby league match in the old BBC2 Floodlit Trophy in the early 1970s which finished 0-0. It may even have been a final.


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I seem to recall watching a rugby league match in the old BBC2 Floodlit Trophy in the early 1970s which finished 0-0. It may even have been a final.

Wiki says Salford and Warrington drew 0-0 at The Willows in the 1974 final on December 17. Was it snowy?! Salford won the Wilderspool replay, five weeks later, 10-5.

Not a game I witnessed, but west Cumbria rivals Whitehaven and Workington Town drew 0-0 in a Boxing Day mudbath at the Recreation Ground. IIRC, it was an out-of-season friendly, so since the launch of the summer era.

One low-scoring game at Whitehaven I did see, from the press box, was a 2-2 draw with Batley in November 1988. Can't recall a single thing about the match, but I do remember struggling with a 1,000-word 'runner' for the Batley News, whose sports editor opted not to make the long trip on a Wednesday evening and ordered the copy. The 2-0 win for Huddersfield over Swinton aside (circa 1975, higher up this thread), it's the lowest-scoring rugby league game I've seen (live - I don't count stuff on the telly).

An indication of how much rugby league has changed: results from the first day, on September 7, 1895, of the Northern Union…

Batley 7 Hull 3; Bradford (Park Avenue) 11 Wakefield Trinity 0; Broughton Rangers 0 Wigan 9; Leigh 3 Leeds 6; Liversedge 0 Halifax 5; Runcorn 15 Warrington 4; St Helens 8 Rochdale Hornets 3; Stockport 0 Brighouse Rangers 5; Tyldesley 6 Manningham 0; Warrington 5 Hunslet 4.

And the open nature of the play, compared to what was commonplace in Victorian 'rugby', is reported to have astonished onlookers! The highest crowd was at Stockport (10,000), the lowest at Leigh (2,500).




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The semi finals didn't quite turn out as expected but it should still be Australia v England in the final with the usual outcome.


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I seem to recall watching a rugby league match in the old BBC2 Floodlit Trophy in the early 1970s which finished 0-0. It may even have been a final.


I saw a 0-0 between Halifax & Hull FC in the RL Challenge cup SF at Headingley on 26/3//3 88 . The replay at Elland Road on 30/3/88 was 4-3 to Halifax.


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Can't say women's sport does anything for me, but I see England, despite losing 22-16 to Cook Islands in their final group game, have reached Sunday's semi-finals of the six-team women's World Cup tournament. Naturally, Australia are hot favourites to lift the trophy. The Jillaroos thumped Canada 88-0 to breeze undefeated into the last four. Earlier, Australia beat England 38-0. Despite the shock win over England, Cook Islands, outsiders who were routed by Australia and New Zealand, find themselves eliminated.




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