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Yatesman
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Apr 25, 2019, 8:15 AM

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The one line I would argue on your last comment, Yatesman is that Brexit had a more coherent message
I think one of the reasons for its success was its incoherence, so as it could be all things to all men.
This is why no one appears to know what Brexit means, apart from Brexit means Brexit

Facebook profiling probably played a part in this - by sending the correct message in the correct directions and allowing people to believe what they wanted to believe
Clearly it did not affect you or me, as despite differences of opinion, we were always certain of the direction of our votes
How many were swayed by this is less clear, but it is obvious that small margins were all it took to sway some people, and a small margin applied to a national population is how the result played out


You're saying that Facebook ads were telling some people basically what they wanted to hear........therefore confirming that these people's opinions weren't changed, just underscored.
You also say it is not possible to know how many people's voting intention changed , if anyone's was at all.
Therefore the theory that Facebook advertising changed the outcome of the referendum is unprovable and probably desperate straw clutching.
It doesn't matter how nicely spoken and earnest the journalist is.....her theory doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
It all adds up to Leave running a better campaign , despite the establishment and all its levers of power and influence working against it.
It makes the Leave victory all the more remarkable and something for the man in the street to be proud of.

The worm turned !


PaulC
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Apr 25, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Sturgeon has again called for IndyRef2 if we leave the European Union. Although she acknowledges this can only happen with the British Governments agreement.

Given that this is never going to happen under the current government, could it possibly be a pre-requisite for supporting a Corbyn-led Government after the next general election?

Obviously Labour are also against IndyRef2, but could it be included in a coalition of doom - much like the LD’s ill-fated
‘Alternative vote’ ref?


No.

There will be no SNP/Labour coalition. That is nonsense. Though you can be sure the Tory press will again scare their English readers with horror stories of Scots being in power over them.

The SNP would no doubt back a minority Labour government, as would the other progressive parties at Westmister, if it keeps the Tories out.

But they won't make the same mistake the LDs made by going into coalition. They will support policies they believe are worth supporting and will oppose those that aren't.

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