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.....or maybe 1.5 Billion depending upon your news source...
1. murder at least 500 people
2. set yourself up as a political party
3. get 10 MP's
4. errr... that's it (courtesy of Private Eye)


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I wonder if any of the right-wingers who were accusing Labour of offering a bribe to young people before the election by proposing the elimination of student fees, will be back to explain how this isn't a bribe?

Perhaps there are Magic Money Trees after all.


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.....or maybe 1.5 Billion depending upon your news source...
1. murder at least 500 people
2. set yourself up as a political party
3. get 10 MP's
4. errr... that's it (courtesy of Private Eye)


Maybe Theresa May should get the DUP to take over the Brexit negotiations.


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I wonder if any of the right-wingers who were accusing Labour of offering a bribe to young people before the election by proposing the elimination of student fees, will be back to explain how this isn't a bribe?

Perhaps there are Magic Money Trees after all.


Quite clearly a bribe, just like the one Jezza offered, only this one worked


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I'm no fan of the DUP either, but at least the money will be going to Catholic and Protestant areas equally. This is a big improvement from the 60's when the Protestants ran the province for their own benefit.


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I wonder if any of the right-wingers who were accusing Labour of offering a bribe to young people before the election by proposing the elimination of student fees, will be back to explain how this isn't a bribe?

Perhaps there are Magic Money Trees after all.


If we do have another election this year, it could be a struggle for the Tories to find an angle against Labour seeing as pretty much everything they used against him before this one has ended up being what they did.

I guess this is why their friends in the newspaper industry are back to the CORBYN ISN'T PATRIOTIC nonsense.


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Cash for Votes.

Collusion with terrorist sympathisers.

Good to see the Tories are Making Britain Great Again.


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Cash for Votes.

Collusion with terrorist sympathisers.

Labour offered cash for votes, and colluded with terrorists, so they are as good/bad as each other

The winners of the election turn out to be the DUP and the folk of NI, no one saw that coming


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Cash for the Sash.........mmmmmm!


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I wonder if any of the right-wingers who were accusing Labour of offering a bribe to young people before the election by proposing the elimination of student fees, will be back to explain how this isn't a bribe?

Perhaps there are Magic Money Trees after all.


If we do have another election this year, it could be a struggle for the Tories to find an angle against Labour seeing as pretty much everything they used against him before this one has ended up being what they did.

I guess this is why their friends in the newspaper industry are back to the CORBYN ISN'T PATRIOTIC nonsense.


I'd have thought this definitely rules out another GE this year. They were fully Frit of Jezza even before buying 10 votes with a Billion £. I can't see Tory candidates wanting to explain on the doorsteps why they're favouring one part of the UK to cling to office. Shocked

As for the newspaper industry, with the honourable exceptions of the Times and the Telegraph, it's comical how the Tory papers are not mentioning the Billion £ bribe on their front pages. Move along, move along nothing to see……. Cool

If this is an example of Tory negotiating skill God help us with Brexit Frown


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I wonder if any of the right-wingers who were accusing Labour of offering a bribe to young people before the election by proposing the elimination of student fees, will be back to explain how this isn't a bribe?

Perhaps there are Magic Money Trees after all.


Well, I am not a right winger, but voted Tory at the GE17. Yes this is a bribe or the Americans might call it 'pork barrelling'. Certainly less expensive than the bribe Jezza was offering students.

God knows how much Jezza would have paid to form a leftie coalition of Doom.

Two years seems the likely length of this Government as one assumes they won't put anything forward that has a chance of being voted down. That is until the final deal on Brexit is ready, then the blood bath starts.
The question is can Jezza keep his halo polished long enough or will he eventually be given enough rope to hang himself - some comments on Trident may already have slipped out.


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I wonder if any of the right-wingers who were accusing Labour of offering a bribe to young people before the election by proposing the elimination of student fees, will be back to explain how this isn't a bribe?

Perhaps there are Magic Money Trees after all.


Well, I am not a right winger, but voted Tory at the GE17. Yes this is a bribe or the Americans might call it 'pork barrelling'. Certainly less expensive than the bribe Jezza was offering students.

God knows how much Jezza would have paid to form a leftie coalition of Doom.

Two years seems the likely length of this Government as one assumes they won't put anything forward that has a chance of being voted down. That is until the final deal on Brexit is ready, then the blood bath starts.
The question is can Jezza keep his halo polished long enough or will he eventually be given enough rope to hang himself - some comments on Trident may already have slipped out.



I'm not sure Trident is a major issue for many people. Most countries in the world don't have nuclear weapons & they aren't regularly threatened by rouge states. People are sick & tired of lying politicians. The Labour Party seemed a little bit gaff prone at the GE, but it seemed easier to swallow than all the scripted Tories. Most people want to know that politicians genuinely care about them & not themselves.



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The question with Trident in today's world is "who is it aimed at?"
During the cold war, it is plausible that Mutally Assured Distruction was not quite as MAD as its initials
There were for a while, parties in both USA and USSR that might have gone for a first strike, if they could confidently take out the opposition

But now, despite the arguments between Russia and the USA, there is much less likelihood of wars breaking out.
The biggest threat appears to be the fundamentalist religious groups.
We know that, as yet, these terrorist groups have not got a nuclear weapons, because if they did have one, it would have been used.
And if a rogue group gets a bomb and lets it off in London, Paris or New York - where exactly do we send the counter-strike?



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The question with Trident in today's world is "who is it aimed at?"
During the cold war, it is plausible that Mutally Assured Distruction was not quite as MAD as its initials
There were for a while, parties in both USA and USSR that might have gone for a first strike, if they could confidently take out the opposition

But now, despite the arguments between Russia and the USA, there is much less likelihood of wars breaking out.
The biggest threat appears to be the fundamentalist religious groups.
We know that, as yet, these terrorist groups have not got a nuclear weapons, because if they did have one, it would have been used.
And if a rogue group gets a bomb and lets it off in London, Paris or New York - where exactly do we send the counter-strike?
No State(including Iran & North Korea)are going to commit suicide. So the only likely nuclear threat is from terrorist groups & probably the so-called 'dirty bombs'. If it's ISIS or any other terrorist group, they could have cells spread across the planet. The leadership might be in a cave somewhere, with very few associates with them.




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Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


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There is whole other debate on Trident we can have, but my point was that he is going against Labour Party policy.

As for Trident, I'd have sent it down to the south Atlantic in 1982 and pointed the missiles at Buenos Aires and told them they had 24 hours to get off the Falklands - would have saved a lot of military personal lives on both sides!


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As for Trident, I'd have sent it down to the south Atlantic in 1982 and pointed the missiles at Buenos Aires and told them they had 24 hours to get off the Falklands - would have saved a lot of military personal lives on both sides!


What would you have then done, if they had ignored you?



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As for Trident, I'd have sent it down to the south Atlantic in 1982 and pointed the missiles at Buenos Aires and told them they had 24 hours to get off the Falklands - would have saved a lot of military personal lives on both sides!


What would you have then done, if they had ignored you?


Fired the first one at a uninhabited section of the country. I doubt they would ignore it again or wait for the second.


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The big mistake Argentina made in 1982 was invading the Falklands capital Stanley from the word go. Instead they should have made landfall on the west coast of West Falkland and put up a lot of army-type huts, barracks, etc and the UK would then perhaps have been reluctant to send a task force there as no islanders would have been directly affected. The dispute would then have rumbled on for years at the UN, during which time Argentina would have put up more buildings and perhaps some sheep farms. Eventually they would have got a shared sovereignty deal or something similar.


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There is whole other debate on Trident we can have, but my point was that he is going against Labour Party policy.

As for Trident, I'd have sent it down to the south Atlantic in 1982 and pointed the missiles at Buenos Aires and told them they had 24 hours to get off the Falklands - would have saved a lot of military personal lives on both sides!


The Argies would have called our bluff. Frown


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The big mistake Argentina made in 1982 was invading the Falklands capital Stanley from the word go. Instead they should have made landfall on the west coast of West Falkland and put up a lot of army-type huts, barracks, etc and the UK would then perhaps have been reluctant to send a task force there as no islanders would have been directly affected. The dispute would then have rumbled on for years at the UN, during which time Argentina would have put up more buildings and perhaps some sheep farms. Eventually they would have got a shared sovereignty deal or something similar.


The big mistake was trying military force at all. They didn't need to.

If Galtieri had had any sense he'd have carried on with the existing hearts and minds campaign to win over the Falkland Islanders. The latter were well aware that for years the UK Government (both Labour or Tory) had just wanted rid of the islands.

Whatever part of the Islands Argentine armed forces took over, Thatcher had no choice but to react militarily. If she hadn't been able to announce the sending of a Task Force in the Emergency Session of the House of Commons on the Saturday immediately after the invasion she wouldn't have lasted the weekend as PM and the Tories would probably have faced electoral catastrophe.


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The big mistake Argentina made in 1982 was invading the Falklands capital Stanley from the word go. Instead they should have made landfall on the west coast of West Falkland and put up a lot of army-type huts, barracks, etc and the UK would then perhaps have been reluctant to send a task force there as no islanders would have been directly affected. The dispute would then have rumbled on for years at the UN, during which time Argentina would have put up more buildings and perhaps some sheep farms. Eventually they would have got a shared sovereignty deal or something similar.


The big mistake was trying military force at all. They didn't need to.

If Galtieri had had any sense he'd have carried on with the existing hearts and minds campaign to win over the Falkland Islanders. The latter were well aware that for years the UK Government (both Labour or Tory) had just wanted rid of the islands.

Whatever part of the Islands Argentine armed forces took over, Thatcher had no choice but to react militarily. If she hadn't been able to announce the sending of a Task Force in the Emergency Session of the House of Commons on the Saturday immediately after the invasion she wouldn't have lasted the weekend as PM and the Tories would probably have faced electoral catastrophe.



I'm sure most of the Fackland Islanders would've evacuated & allowed to settle in the U.K. If the Argies hadn't invaded & persuaded the U.K. government to eventually hand over the Islands.



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Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


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The big mistake Argentina made in 1982 was invading the Falklands capital Stanley from the word go. Instead they should have made landfall on the west coast of West Falkland and put up a lot of army-type huts, barracks, etc and the UK would then perhaps have been reluctant to send a task force there as no islanders would have been directly affected. The dispute would then have rumbled on for years at the UN, during which time Argentina would have put up more buildings and perhaps some sheep farms. Eventually they would have got a shared sovereignty deal or something similar.


The big mistake was trying military force at all. They didn't need to.

If Galtieri had had any sense he'd have carried on with the existing hearts and minds campaign to win over the Falkland Islanders. The latter were well aware that for years the UK Government (both Labour or Tory) had just wanted rid of the islands.

Whatever part of the Islands Argentine armed forces took over, Thatcher had no choice but to react militarily. If she hadn't been able to announce the sending of a Task Force in the Emergency Session of the House of Commons on the Saturday immediately after the invasion she wouldn't have lasted the weekend as PM and the Tories would probably have faced electoral catastrophe.



I'm sure most of the Fackland Islanders would've evacuated & allowed to settle in the U.K. If the Argies hadn't invaded & persuaded the U.K. government to eventually hand over the Islands.


We could have exchanged them for Diego Maradona and won the 1986 World CupSmile



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I'm sure most of the Fackland Islanders would've evacuated & allowed to settle in the U.K. If the Argies hadn't invaded & persuaded the U.K. government to eventually hand over the Islands.


Have to disagree, My experience of being there in 82, was that the Islanders would never have left. All the ones i spoke to were determined to continue living exactly where they were, and they gave no thought to leaving either before, during or after.


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There is whole other debate on Trident we can have, but my point was that he is going against Labour Party policy.

As for Trident, I'd have sent it down to the south Atlantic in 1982 and pointed the missiles at Buenos Aires and told them they had 24 hours to get off the Falklands - would have saved a lot of military personal lives on both sides!


The Argies would have called our bluff. Frown


Fairly sure they would have done which is worrying. They had Reagan who was more on their side than ours and kept well out of it



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I'm sure most of the Fackland Islanders would've evacuated & allowed to settle in the U.K. If the Argies hadn't invaded & persuaded the U.K. government to eventually hand over the Islands.


Have to disagree, My experience of being there in 82, was that the Islanders would never have left. All the ones i spoke to were determined to continue living exactly where they were, and they gave no thought to leaving either before, during or after.


It would have between cheaper if we would have put them all on a remote scottish Island and given them all a couple of million quid each. We ended up paying 400 million on a new airport runway serving 2000 people



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