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Hitchin-John
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Jun 22, 2017, 11:42 AM

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Please use this thread for noting any problems you see with the main site for the 2017–18 season.


(This post was edited by steve walker on Jun 22, 2017, 11:59 AM)


Sarumio
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Jun 22, 2017, 12:09 PM

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Hello,

Could I suggest some change to the leagues/divisions that are covered on this site

I’ll start with the Lincolnshire League – now it’s at Step 7 – I assume it’s a MUST to be covered on this site?

The Teesside League needs renaming to the North Riding League Premier Division, and as with other Step 7 leagues, its Division One should also be covered on here?

The Central Midlands League now have a Division One sitting underneath its North and South divisions, so should that be on this site too?

I’d maybe also suggest the site stops covering the many lower divisions of the South Devon League that are just filled with reserve teams that very few have any interest in, and maybe scrap coverage of the odd league like the East Berks League and focus more on divisions that are actually much higher up like the Aylesbury and Wycombe Leagues whose top divisions feed into the SSML Div Two, making them effectively Step 8 divisions!

Maybe the Hellenic Div Twos should be covered in the Step 7 and below section too?


drawoh
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Jun 22, 2017, 1:40 PM

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Hello,

Could I suggest some change to the leagues/divisions that are covered on this site

I’ll start with the Lincolnshire League – now it’s at Step 7 – I assume it’s a MUST to be covered on this site?

The Teesside League needs renaming to the North Riding League Premier Division, and as with other Step 7 leagues, its Division One should also be covered on here?

The Central Midlands League now have a Division One sitting underneath its North and South divisions, so should that be on this site too?

I’d maybe also suggest the site stops covering the many lower divisions of the South Devon League that are just filled with reserve teams that very few have any interest in, and maybe scrap coverage of the odd league like the East Berks League and focus more on divisions that are actually much higher up like the Aylesbury and Wycombe Leagues whose top divisions feed into the SSML Div Two, making them effectively Step 8 divisions!

Maybe the Hellenic Div Twos should be covered in the Step 7 and below section too?

I agree with your first three points.

I don't agree with your final point - Hellenic League. I believe that the two Div Twos are reserve divisions, and that there is no promotion or relegation between the Div One and Div Two leagues.

Regarding your fourth point - uncertain about this one. You've definitely got a point there - what do others feel?


dottirofhod
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Jun 22, 2017, 1:49 PM

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I’d maybe also suggest the site stops covering the many lower divisions of the South Devon League that are just filled with reserve teams that very few have any interest in, and maybe scrap coverage of the odd league like the East Berks League and focus more on divisions that are actually much higher up like the Aylesbury and Wycombe Leagues whose top divisions feed into the SSML Div Two, making them effectively Step 8 divisions!




Regarding your fourth point - uncertain about this one. You've definitely got a point there - what do others feel?
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As I occasionally helped John inputting results it got to the stage that I told him I would help but not the South Devon or York lower divs , their a pain , who's interested in XX Res v YYY 5ths ?
It would help if people who are supposed to be looking after leagues did so !Fixtures always there results not so.
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Hitchin-John
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Jun 22, 2017, 2:11 PM

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Regarding the South Devon fixtures and results. There were so many changes to fixtures on the FA Full Time Site that it became almost impossible to determine the latest fixtures.

For the last few months of last season, it was easier to create NO fixtures but I made a point of copying results from Full Time to NLM on completion of the games. This ensured that both sites agreed but NLM lost it's prime objective of displaying fixtures in advance (min 2 weeks ) for our viewers.

Quite happy to see additional leagues, but happier still to see more Editors to maintain them.


steve walker
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Jun 22, 2017, 3:49 PM

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I think what happened with the South Devon and York was that back in the day someone would come along and say "please please add all divisions for this League and I will maintain it cross my heart" and then buggered off.
We could remove the South Devon altogether since it is such a pain and maybe also remove all but the top two divisions of the York.
As for adding leagues, yes it's really down to more Editors or there are 7 Admins plus myself who have access to all divisions. I can try and input a bit more than I do as I think Hitchin John probably does way more than he should need to so sure, we can add more leagues if we get more editors and more admin input. So I will leave it up to them to decide, it's voluntary after all, not a job.


Sarumio
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Jun 22, 2017, 4:10 PM

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In an ideal world for the new season I would advocate

Removing
South Devon League Div Two, Three, Four and Five
East Berkshire League Div One and Two
York League Div Two, Three and Four
Aldershot & District League
All but the top Two divisions of the Bedfordshire County League


Adding
Lincolnshire League (Step 7)
Aylesbury & District League Premier Division (Step 8)
Wycombe & District League Senior Division (Step 8)
Durham Alliance Combination League (Step 8)

Other divisions at notional Step 8 level that it could be argued are “less important” or of lower standard that are not currently covered on the site are the following

  • Swindon & District League and Trowbridge & District League (whose top divisions are both direct feeders to the Step 7 Wiltshire League)


  • Boston & District League, East Lincolnshire Combination, Scunthorpe & District League (whose top divisions are all direct feeders to the newly upgraded Step 7 Lincolnshire League)


But maybe they could be catered for if the site stopped covering some of the third tiers of current Step 7 divisions (like the WRCAL Div Two and the Notts Senior Legaue Div Two)

Maybe it’s best to cover all Step 7 and (notional) Step 8 divisions first and then see what else can be sensibly covered after that?


I could help out with updating some of the new ones if needed!


Richard Rundle
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Jun 22, 2017, 9:15 PM

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The Teesside League needs renaming to the North Riding League Premier Division, and as with other Step 7 leagues, its Division One should also be covered on here?


Are we sure that's going to be the name of the new league? I thought it was going to be called the Teesside & Eskvale League.


Sarumio
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Jun 22, 2017, 9:52 PM

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Couple of name changes that haven't taken affect in the new 17-18 tables on the site


Darlington 1883 are now Darlington
Beaconsfield SYCOB are now Beaconsfield Town
And Shaw Lane AFC should just be Shaw Lane!


Sarumio
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Jun 22, 2017, 9:58 PM

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ML
Alvis Sporting are now Coventry Alvis
Hinckley AFC should be just Hinckley


NCEL
Barton Town Old Boys are now just Barton Town


drawoh
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Jun 23, 2017, 6:11 AM

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Darlington 1883 are now Darlington
Beaconsfield SYCOB are now Beaconsfield Town
And Shaw Lane AFC should just be Shaw Lane!

ML
Alvis Sporting are now Coventry Alvis
Hinckley AFC should be just Hinckley

NCEL
Barton Town Old Boys are now just Barton Town

All changed. Thanks for pointing these out!

We've now migrated everything from Step 1 to Step 6, apart from the Hellenic League. If there's anything else that looks amiss, please let us know.


kirby knitters
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Jun 23, 2017, 10:01 AM

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Hinckley AFC should just be Hinckley?



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Bantam Cymraeg
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Jun 23, 2017, 4:24 PM

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Hinckley AFC should just be Hinckley?

Yes, or you could theoretically stick "AFC" on the end of every club's name. Not necessary.


kirby knitters
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Jun 23, 2017, 4:34 PM

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Hinckley AFC should just be Hinckley?

Yes, or you could theoretically stick "AFC" on the end of every club's name. Not necessary.

I thought Sarumio was posting a statement of fact not a preference of names



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Sarumio
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Jun 23, 2017, 4:39 PM

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Hinckley AFC should just be Hinckley?

Yes, or you could theoretically stick "AFC" on the end of every club's name. Not necessary.

I thought Sarumio was posting a statement of fact not a preference of names


Nope just meant FC/AFC being left off is the norm for all other clubs and Hinckley should be no different


Northumbrian
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Jun 23, 2017, 7:05 PM

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To clear up the confusion re. the name of the new league I have emailed the North Riding FA. Their Governance Administrator replied confirming it will be called The North Riding Football League.


kirby knitters
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Jun 24, 2017, 9:59 PM

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Hinckley AFC should just be Hinckley?

Yes, or you could theoretically stick "AFC" on the end of every club's name. Not necessary.

I thought Sarumio was posting a statement of fact not a preference of names


Nope just meant FC/AFC being left off is the norm for all other clubs and Hinckley should be no different

Apart from Diamonds it seems!Sly



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GRIFFON
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Jun 26, 2017, 8:14 PM

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They are still known as Hinckley AFC on the MFL website and Full Time so that is their official name.Angelic


kirby knitters
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Jun 27, 2017, 9:42 AM

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That's why I questioned the naming of the club on here mate. There was a rumpus about the naming of LR Res/ LR Dev on here and the consensus was how they were named elsewhere officially but as I said at the time it made no odds to me what they were called but it does seem a wee bit strange.



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GRIFFON
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Jun 27, 2017, 11:32 AM

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Totally agree with you pal.
Their programme also uses their correct title throughout. As far as I can see they are the only club to use AFC in the two top divisions, although Wulfrunians do have it before their name.


Mister TwoU
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Jul 6, 2017, 1:57 PM

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Both NWCP (4, this season only) & SCEP (2) are missing one relegation position.



Professional cretin.


drawoh
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Jul 6, 2017, 3:55 PM

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Both NWCP (4, this season only) & SCEP (2) are missing one relegation position.

In view of the probable changes in sizes of Step 5 & 6 divisions in season 2018–19, relegation from Step 5 divisions at the end of the forthcoming season is likely to be very different from how we have known in recent seasons. However, until we know anything definite, I've made the changes suggested by you.


kirby knitters
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Jul 8, 2017, 10:21 AM

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Ilkeston Town need adding to MFL Div 1.



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multilevel
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Jul 8, 2017, 3:11 PM

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Ilkeston Town need adding to MFL Div 1.

Done.


steve walker
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Jul 11, 2017, 10:27 PM

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Don't do maps by the way.. I have a whole load from Mr MapMan to add to the site.... mileage charts if anyone wants to do them now that is a different matter :)

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