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justAndy
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Jun 14, 2017, 6:32 PM

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Tim Farron,but i bet it got a few pulses racing Smile


paulh66
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Being outshone by Mr Fishfinger during his acceptance speech was probably the last straw.


007Dale
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Increased a few seats, but vote share not improved. Has overseen the return of two party politics in England.


steve walker
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Tim Farron,but i bet it got a few pulses racing Smile



I work from home and tend to have the news channels on all day.
This is the first time I have actually learnt of a breaking story on here rather than on the TV. Understandable why on this day.
I quite like Tim Farron as I have said before, he is very eloquent, he puts his point across well and with clarity. It seems he just backed the wrong horse going into this election. He hoped to pick up lots of the non Brexit votes but it just didn't happen.


justAndy
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Tim Farron,but i bet it got a few pulses racing Smile



I work from home and tend to have the news channels on all day.
This is the first time I have actually learnt of a breaking story on here rather than on the TV. Understandable why on this day.
I quite like Tim Farron as I have said before, he is very eloquent, he puts his point across well and with clarity. It seems he just backed the wrong horse going into this election. He hoped to pick up lots of the non Brexit votes but it just didn't happen.


Was on the beeb site catching up with the tower block fire when it flashed up as 'breaking news'

Don't think Farron did anything wrong as such, just didn't seem to register, Libs usually pick the ball up when the other 2 drop it, didn't happen this time


Jaundiced Hack
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Jun 14, 2017, 7:27 PM

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Another homophobic God botherer will disappear into oblivion.
Good riddance


garethwrexy
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Jun 14, 2017, 7:45 PM

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Blimey



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acmold
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Another homophobic God botherer will disappear into oblivion.
Good riddance


Bit of a dope.


windydcfc
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Jun 14, 2017, 9:18 PM

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Another homophobic God botherer will disappear into oblivion.
Good riddance


Bit of a dope.



I'm sure Vince Cable's return to Westminster will make the leadership battle a very short one.



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PaulC
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Another homophobic God botherer will disappear into oblivion.
Good riddance


Bit of a dope.



I'm sure Vince Cable's return to Westminster will make the leadership battle a very short one.


Jo Swinson would be a better bet.


R.S.Cavendish
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Well said, Jaundiced Hack. These sort of people really bother me.
I have just spent some time in Northern Ireland and the bigotry from the evangelicals is truly awful.


Ronsdog
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Another homophobic God botherer will disappear into oblivion.
Good riddance


I wasn't aware of his 'core' beliefs until his appearances in the recent election. It staggers me that our leaders, in the 21st Century haven't ditched such illiberal religious claptrap.

It begs the question as to what he was doing in the LDs in the first place. As to his leadership qualities the less said the better.

Uncle Vince will do an Alladyce for them but the future is Swinsons.


007Dale
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Uncle Vince will do an Alladyce for them but the future is Swinsons.

Suspect that's what will happen.
However, with such a low number of MP's, they could consider a non- MP, if there is a better person out there, and elect a deputy leader who becomes their Parliamentary leader.
SNP, Plaid, DUP all had leaders outside parliament. Also, at the 2015 election, Greens & UKIP had MP's (1 & 2 respectively) but represented by leaders outside parliament.

That said, I have no use who it could be.


jon b
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Increased a few seats, but vote share not improved. Has overseen the return of two party politics in England.


Nope, that was Cleggy's achievement. His ejection from Sheffield Hallam was well merited. Cool


HantsLondoner
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Jun 15, 2017, 8:19 AM

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Nope, that was Cleggy's achievement. His ejection from Sheffield Hallam was well merited. Cool


Absolutely. He was the toxic skeleton in the Lib Dem cupboard that prevented them increasing their vote significantly.

Tim Farron seemed like a decent bloke and performed quite well in debate but the press sensed a weakness if they harped on about his religious beliefs and that did for him.

I hope the Lib Dems can move on now without Clegg. I've stopped voting for them because of him, but they are still the biggest party I can vote for who favour a form of proportional representation. We saw in the recent election that a 3% advantage for the Tories translated into 58 seats. Madness.



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007Dale
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Jun 15, 2017, 9:30 AM

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I hope the Lib Dems can move on now without Clegg. I've stopped voting for them because of him, but they are still the biggest party I can vote for who favour a form of proportional representation. We saw in the recent election that a 3% advantage for the Tories translated into 58 seats. Madness.


Even worse in Scotland, 37% vote share for SNP and over half the seats in Scotland.

Of course, PR (which I do support), will lead to minority governments and coalition's at almost every election. This Parliament could be a good test-bed.


PaulC
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Jun 15, 2017, 12:28 PM

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Even worse in Scotland, 37% vote share for SNP and over half the seats in Scotland.



Of course, unlike the Tories and Labour, the SNP supports PR.


garethwrexy
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It's twenty years since tories were wiped off the Scottish political map



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mip
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I hope the Lib Dems can move on now without Clegg. I've stopped voting for them because of him, but they are still the biggest party I can vote for who favour a form of proportional representation. We saw in the recent election that a 3% advantage for the Tories translated into 58 seats. Madness.


Even worse in Scotland, 37% vote share for SNP and over half the seats in Scotland.

Of course, PR (which I do support), will lead to minority governments and coalition's at almost every election. This Parliament could be a good test-bed.


PR is already in operation in 92 countries so not certain there's a need for a test-bed.

Elections will almost always lead to coalitions but not necessarily minority governments.


007Dale
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Jun 16, 2017, 8:23 AM

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I hope the Lib Dems can move on now without Clegg. I've stopped voting for them because of him, but they are still the biggest party I can vote for who favour a form of proportional representation. We saw in the recent election that a 3% advantage for the Tories translated into 58 seats. Madness.


Even worse in Scotland, 37% vote share for SNP and over half the seats in Scotland.

Of course, PR (which I do support), will lead to minority governments and coalition's at almost every election. This Parliament could be a good test-bed.


PR is already in operation in 92 countries so not certain there's a need for a test-bed.

Elections will almost always lead to coalitions but not necessarily minority governments.


Let's be clear, self-interest in the Tory and Labour Party means they will never allow it at Westminster. Don't forget, the general public (at the 2011 referendum) soundly rejected a form of it.


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Let's be clear, self-interest in the Tory and Labour Party means they will never allow it at Westminster. Don't forget, the general public (at the 2011 referendum) soundly rejected a form of it.


AV is not a form of proportional representation. It's instant runoff voting, similar to that used for the London Mayor. MPs would still have been elected in single constituencies and the number of seats for each party would not have been linked in any way to proportion of vote share.

Also, the 'no' campaign was so outrageously dishonest that I don't think the result can be considered a true reflection of public opinion.


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Let's be clear, self-interest in the Tory and Labour Party means they will never allow it at Westminster. Don't forget, the general public (at the 2011 referendum) soundly rejected a form of it.


AV is not a form of proportional representation. It's instant runoff voting, similar to that used for the London Mayor. MPs would still have been elected in single constituencies and the number of seats for each party would not have been linked in any way to proportion of vote share.

Also, the 'no' campaign was so outrageously dishonest that I don't think the result can be considered a true reflection of public opinion.



What's the voting system that Corbyn says he likes? I know it includes a ffp system for your local MP, combined with a top up of MP's added via PR.



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007Dale
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Let's be clear, self-interest in the Tory and Labour Party means they will never allow it at Westminster. Don't forget, the general public (at the 2011 referendum) soundly rejected a form of it.


AV is not a form of proportional representation. It's instant runoff voting, similar to that used for the London Mayor. MPs would still have been elected in single constituencies and the number of seats for each party would not have been linked in any way to proportion of vote share.

Also, the 'no' campaign was so outrageously dishonest that I don't think the result can be considered a true reflection of public opinion.


Whatever it was, Nick Clegg thought it was more important than scrappping tuition fees in his coalition negotiations with the Tories.


Fanatic
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What's the voting system that Corbyn says he likes? I know it includes a ffp system for your local MP, combined with a top up of MP's added via PR.


Presumably it's some form of mixed-member system. There are numerous variants on it depending on how constituency and proportional MPs are elected. In some countries the constituency MPs are elected via FPTP, in others by the two round system - it could also be done by instant runoff voting. For the proportional MPs, some countries have a separate ballot paper whilst others use the national vote totals for the constituency votes to assign the seats.


PaulC
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You just need to look to Scotland to find a PR system which works.

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