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Bantam Cymraeg
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Just thought I'd bump this thread up to the top to confuse everybody Wink


windydcfc
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I can't believe everyone's been posting on last seasons threadLaugh. Typical East Midlands 'just like Forest we live in the past'LaughSly


kirby knitters
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Apr 7, 2017, 9:28 PM

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Birstall Utd home game against Graham St Prims is also off tomorrow. Everything is fine at Meadow Lane so i take it Prims can't raise a team?


windydcfc
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Birstall Utd home game against Graham St Prims is also off tomorrow. Everything is fine at Meadow Lane so i take it Prims can't raise a team?



Prims have just tweeted that they've had several issues raising a team


shimtoan
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Apr 7, 2017, 10:26 PM

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I can't believe everyone's been posting on last seasons threadLaugh. Typical East Midlands 'just like Forest we live in the past'LaughSly

nah. it's just less hassle to keep the old thread going.

at least the name has changed now.

and, in my opinion, it isn't the same Forest now as it was then


windydcfc
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Apr 7, 2017, 10:30 PM

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I can't believe everyone's been posting on last seasons threadLaugh. Typical East Midlands 'just like Forest we live in the past'LaughSly

nah. it's just less hassle to keep the old thread going.

at least the name has changed now.

and, in my opinion, it isn't the same Forest now as it was then



You're a one off, most are still banging on about 2 European Cups. Even though most of them aren't old enough to even remember the games lol.


shimtoan
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Apr 7, 2017, 10:34 PM

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I can't believe everyone's been posting on last seasons threadLaugh. Typical East Midlands 'just like Forest we live in the past'LaughSly

nah. it's just less hassle to keep the old thread going.

at least the name has changed now.

and, in my opinion, it isn't the same Forest now as it was then



You're a one off, most are still banging on about 2 European Cups. Even though most of them aren't old enough to even remember the games lol.

some of my family went in '79 but that was to see Clough's Forest. Doughty, as a lifelong fan, at least kept the Forest spirit alive. Fawaz has ruined the club.

Anyhoo, Forest aren't in the EMCL (no snarky "yet" please windy)


kirby knitters
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Apr 8, 2017, 9:12 AM

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Shades of the 2nd year of this league here when Hinckley FC pulled the plug late on causing mayhem and p****ing the reformed Gresley FC fans off big time though they eventually won the title.


windydcfc
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Shades of the 2nd year of this league here when Hinckley FC pulled the plug late on causing mayhem and p****ing the reformed Gresley FC fans off big time though they eventually won the title.

Looking at the results this season, if Greenwood Meadows have there results expunged. Then there will be a couple of teams that'll benefit.
SNA, WB & Birstall have taken 6 points each off them this season & Aylestone have picked up 1 point off two games.
At the bottom Holbrook have picked up zero points off 2 games. Gedling have picked up zero points from a single game & Graham SP have picked up 6 points off two games.


windydcfc
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Apr 15, 2017, 10:10 PM

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The EMCL are having a meeting this Thursday about Greenwood Meadows.


windydcfc
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Apr 16, 2017, 12:34 PM

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The EMCL are having a meeting this Thursday about Greenwood Meadows.



An EMCL club have emailed the leagues secretary & asked if Greenwood Meadows records are going to be expunged. The reply from the secretary was, because they've played more than 75% of the fixtures they use different rules. What are the options available to the league? I know 3 points for every non-played game, but the result will be given as 0-0 is an option.


kirby knitters
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Apr 16, 2017, 1:52 PM

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The latter sounds best and also a good move to not expunge results so late in the day.


windydcfc
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Apr 16, 2017, 2:02 PM

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The latter sounds best and also a good move to not expunge results so late in the day.



I know certain clubs aren't happy, because FA Cup entry is dependent on league placement.


kirby knitters
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Apr 16, 2017, 2:09 PM

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The latter sounds best and also a good move to not expunge results so late in the day.



I know certain clubs aren't happy, because FA Cup entry is dependent on league placement.

Thats the price of clubs not seeing the season out. The league at the moment is very tight for the potential last couple of spots.


Richard Rundle
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Apr 16, 2017, 2:36 PM

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The latter sounds best and also a good move to not expunge results so late in the day.


Surely the league's rules have explicit instructions on how to deal with withdrawals?


windydcfc
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Apr 16, 2017, 3:00 PM

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The latter sounds best and also a good move to not expunge results so late in the day.


Surely the league's rules have explicit instructions on how to deal with withdrawals?



Pity the EMCL rules aren't readily available to read. The NCEL website would be a great example for the EMCL to follow.


Richard Rundle
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Pity the EMCL rules aren't readily available to read.


As a Step 6 league they should be using the FA Standardised rules anyway. What does it say in the Northern Counties East League rules?


kirby knitters
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Apr 16, 2017, 4:45 PM

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The latter sounds best and also a good move to not expunge results so late in the day.


Surely the league's rules have explicit instructions on how to deal with withdrawals?

You would certainly think so with the EMCL as they have had enough practice.


shimtoan
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Apr 21, 2017, 11:45 AM

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following a committee meeting yesterday the league have decided to...

seek further advice from the FA

http://eastmidlandscountiesleague.pitchero.com/management-committee-anouncement-36224


"At a Management Committee meeting held on Thursday 20th April a decision was taken on the failure by Greenwood Meadows FC to complete their last four
scheduled league games. Given the seriousness of the matter it was agreed that further advice on the decision would be sought from the FA before being
notified to the club. Once that has been concluded a further announcement wIll be made."


Swan32
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In other words let's delay it until the end of the season and fingers crossed whatever we decide to do doesn't affect anything.
How difficult is it to just expunge a teams record?


kirby knitters
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Apr 21, 2017, 1:51 PM

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It could also be seen as them washing their hands of the situation and letting someone else sort it but i think they have taken the correct course of action due to what is at stake.


Part-Timer
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In other words let's delay it until the end of the season and fingers crossed whatever we decide to do doesn't affect anything.
How difficult is it to just expunge a teams record?

It's not difficult, just not necessarily right. The rules say that if a club has not completed 75% of its fixtures their record will be expunged. They are less clear on what should happen if they have completed 75% of their fixtures, as is the case here.


kirby knitters
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Apr 21, 2017, 2:46 PM

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Results were expunged in 2010 when Hinckley pulled the plug very late but did the league or FA sort it?


shimtoan
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Apr 21, 2017, 4:04 PM

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In other words let's delay it until the end of the season and fingers crossed whatever we decide to do doesn't affect anything.
How difficult is it to just expunge a teams record?

It's not difficult, just not necessarily right. The rules say that if a club has not completed 75% of its fixtures their record will be expunged. They are less clear on what should happen if they have completed 75% of their fixtures, as is the case here.

4th to 8th is hotly contested at the moment

currently it's
75 (+36) Aylestone Park
73 (+32) Blaby & Whetstone Athletic
71 (+45) Radford
71 (+24) Kimberley Miners Welfare
70 (+38) Dunkirk

expunging gives
74 (+37) Aylestone
68 (+44) Radford
67 (+35) Dunkirk
67 (+26) Blaby
65 (+19) Kimberley

awarding 3 points at 0-0
75 (+36) Aylestone
74 (+45) Radford
73 (+38) Dunkirk
73 (+32) Blaby
71 (+24) Kimberley

going on PPG, which is another option I believe, we currently have
1.900 - Aylestone
1.842 - Dunkirk
1.781 - Blaby
1.775 - Radford
1.775 - Kimberley

nightmare


Swan32
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It took 1.63 to get in FA cup last season so it affects even further down the table than 8th.

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