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swjoduk
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Any news?

Did I see rumours on here of Elmore from Devon and Exeter League?

Bristol Telephones, Thornbury and Stonehouse from Gloucestershire?

Frys, Middlezoy and Staplegrove from Somerset League?

Any transfers from Peninsula, say Axminster?

No applicants from Wiltshire or transfers from Hellenic?


windydcfc
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Any news?

Did I see rumours on here of Elmore from Devon and Exeter League?

Bristol Telephones, Thornbury and Stonehouse from Gloucestershire?

Frys, Middlezoy and Staplegrove from Somerset League?

Any transfers from Peninsula, say Axminster?

No applicants from Wiltshire or transfers from Hellenic?



The only step 7 applicants are the Bristol Telephones, Stonehouse & Thornbury. The list is on my post #75 on the Step 7 applicants thread. As for teams wanting to laterally transfer, they have until the 31st March to apply to do so. The only clubs that might actually do this across the whole country are probably Stone OA WMRL to the NWCL1(I think they might have a better chance next season when the NWCL1 is regionalised into 2 divisions). Unless Carlisle City stick a transfer in from the NWCL1 to the NL2. If any SWPL want to transfer I'm sure Phil would already have heard something.


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swjoduk
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Feb 3, 2017, 10:18 PM

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Very surprised Middlezoy didn't apply from Somerset as they submitted a planning application for lights and a new stand. Same with Frys they have everything in place now.

Where did your list come from? I was looking for an official FA news release but no luck.


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Where did your list come from? I was looking for an official FA news release but no luck.


I saw an official release through the NWCL website: http://www.hallmarksecurityleague.com/...articles.php?id=5643


windydcfc
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Where did your list come from? I was looking for an official FA news release but no luck.


I saw an official release through the NWCL website: http://www.hallmarksecurityleague.com/...articles.php?id=5643



That's identical to the list I posted.


swjoduk
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Feb 3, 2017, 10:49 PM

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Disappointing from the Somerset League clubs then. Maybe Middlezoy and Staplegrove see it as a bit too early as they've not long been at step 7 and Frys may feel they are too far off the pace


SWP-Phil
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Feb 4, 2017, 10:03 AM

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THe list that included Elmore was the much maligned one seemingly written as a wish list with no basis in reality.

Axminster cannot transfer froim Step 7 to Step 6 and Elmore cannot be promoted from Step 8 to Step 6, esp as they may not even finish in the top 3 of the D & E league !



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gcnc
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Feb 14, 2017, 3:34 PM

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Bristol Telephones have apparently acquired Melksham's old floodlights to help their promotion bid, and now believe everything is in place if they can finish high enough in the Gloucestershire County, according to

http://www.gloucestershirefa.com/.../local-football-news


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Bristol Telephones have apparently acquired Melksham's old floodlights to help their promotion bid, and now believe everything is in place if they can finish high enough in the Gloucestershire County, according to

http://www.gloucestershirefa.com/.../local-football-news



They don't want to be waiting until 'the Summer' to install them, then - as Manager is quoted saying. Deadline is March 31st.!



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gcnc
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Feb 14, 2017, 3:56 PM

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Bristol Telephones have apparently acquired Melksham's old floodlights to help their promotion bid, and now believe everything is in place if they can finish high enough in the Gloucestershire County, according to

http://www.gloucestershirefa.com/.../local-football-news



They don't want to be waiting until 'the Summer' to install them, then - as Manager is quoted saying. Deadline is March 31st.!


They wouldn't have to have them installed by 31st March, or even by the start of next season. All they need to prove is that everything is in place (planning permission, equipment purchased etc) for the ground to be floodlit during the season, by the end of September, if I remember rightly.


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SWP-Phil
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30th September is the earliest deadline to install, after that leagues "may" impose penalties but a club is only relegated for non-compliance f they are not installed by March 31st following promotion.



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KnowYourMarket
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Feb 16, 2017, 2:45 PM

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THe list that included Elmore was the much maligned one seemingly written as a wish list with no basis in reality.

Axminster cannot transfer froim Step 7 to Step 6 and Elmore cannot be promoted from Step 8 to Step 6, esp as they may not even finish in the top 3 of the D & E league !


I know this is only theory but couldn't Elmore apply directly to step 6 if there was a vacancy as they are outside the pyramid? There is no such thing as step 8? I know the South West has a good internal pyramid but if they're outwith step 7 they're not in the FA pyramid.



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windydcfc
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Feb 16, 2017, 2:56 PM

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THe list that included Elmore was the much maligned one seemingly written as a wish list with no basis in reality.

Axminster cannot transfer froim Step 7 to Step 6 and Elmore cannot be promoted from Step 8 to Step 6, esp as they may not even finish in the top 3 of the D & E league !


I know this is only theory but couldn't Elmore apply directly to step 6 if there was a vacancy as they are outside the pyramid? There is no such thing as step 8? I know the South West has a good internal pyramid but if they're outwith step 7 they're not in the FA pyramid.

There has to be a space for them available. This is after all the normal promotion & relegation issues have been sorted. If a WL team has been placed in a relegation spot & there is a space. At the WL Agm, the clubs would vote to keep an existing clubs, rather than allow a team from outside the pyramid to replace them. Also the FA have told clubs outside the pyramid, that they are tightening up on allowing teams from outside the pyramid to be promoted. Those teams will almost certainly be told to join a step 7 league.


SWP-Phil
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No as their is a formal promotion & relegation link between the SWP and the Devon & Exeter League in place.



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windydcfc
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Feb 16, 2017, 5:19 PM

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No as their is a formal promotion & relegation link between the SWP and the Devon & Exeter League in place.



Okay, so they've got absolutely no chance of them joining the WL


Sarumio
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Feb 16, 2017, 7:23 PM

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No as their is a formal promotion & relegation link between the SWP and the Devon & Exeter League in place.



Okay, so they've got absolutely no chance of them joining the WL


Well, surely actually there is a chance.

A precedent has been set - as you say clubs from LEAGUES entirely outside of Step 7 can apply directly for a Step 6 place if a vacancy exists, a la FC Oswestry Town and Whitchurch Alport have done in the North West.

The Western League is two short of capacity. And as things currently stand only Stonehouse Town will go up from its feeder divisions, AND EVEN THEN, they are so far in Gloucestershire that they could end up being put in the Hellenic League.

So if Elmore want it, surely they could get it?


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windydcfc
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No as their is a formal promotion & relegation link between the SWP and the Devon & Exeter League in place.



Okay, so they've got absolutely no chance of them joining the WL


Well, surely actually there is a chance.

A precedent has been set - as you say clubs from LEAGUES entirely outside of Step 7 can apply directly for a Step 6 place if a vacancy exists, a la FC Oswestry Town and Whitchurch Alport have done in the North West.

The Western League is two short of capacity. And as things currently stand only Stonehouse Town will go up from its feeder divisions, AND EVEN THEN, they are so far in Gloucestershire that they could end up being put in the Hellenic League.

So if Elmore want it, surely they could get it?



Skegness Town have received a response from the FA after applying directly to the NCEL & the UCL. The new hierarchy within the FA will be taking a harder stance on clubs applying directly for promotion, from outside the pyramid. The FA will be pushing for clubs to join step 7 leagues. We will see what happens.


swjoduk
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I see that planning has been granted for Bristol Telephones lights. Do they get many watch them? Thriving club house? Not a bad set up when I looked through the fence last week. 1seating stand, perimeter path will need seated stand too as not sure the covered stand has those?

Looks like Thornbury however has withdrawn their application for floodlights etc according to South Gloucs planning website.


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That is true, plus money talks!

If, for example, a Jersey FC were to apply to the Wessex/Combined Counties League for a place in one of their leagues and had the funds etc. like Guernsey FC then it would be hard to stop them if they had a ground worthy of Wessex/Combined Counties League football.

Not saying that a Jersey FC will happen, but you never know! If a Step 7 side could not move up due to ground-grading and Jersey FC could fill a gap then maybe it would be worth a go.


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The Western League is two short of capacity. And as things currently stand only Stonehouse Town will go up from its feeder divisions, AND EVEN THEN, they are so far in Gloucestershire that they could end up being put in the Hellenic League.

So if Elmore want it, surely they could get it?


Interesting day today, with Bristol Telephones winning away and Stonehouse losing at home, the pendulum seems to be swinging Telephones way. With the news that Gillingham Town are pulling out of the Western League, as well, there look like being some spare places in the League next season.


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Could both of them (Bristol Telephones and Stonehouse Town) go up from the GCL, if they're going to separate leagues (Western and Hellenic)?


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Stonehouse I think, might argue Slimbridge as a case in point for the TSL promotion, not to mention Malmsbury.



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Richard Rundle
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TSL?


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Don't think so they have refused it in the past.



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Tool Station League, possibly. Though it's the Toolstation Western League, of course.

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