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paulh66
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League website reports the following have applied ahead of today's deadline:

WELSH NATIONAL LEAGUE
Brickfield Rangers, Chirk AAA and FC Nomads
WELSH ALLIANCE LEAGUE
Llandudno Junction, Llandyrnog United, Glantreath and Llangefni Town
MID WALES LEAGUE
Berriew, Carno, Llanraeadr YM and Rhayader Town

Full details at http://www.huwsgrayalliance.co.uk/...0-promotion-deadline


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Can anyone confirm that the new FAW Tier 2 regulations, meant to start in 2017-18, have been delayed a year? If not, nearly all of these sides will fail the ground test as they have nowhere near the 250 covered seats required. Many of the existing Tier 2 sides both in the Cymru Alliance and in South Wales, Welsh League Division 1, would also fail the new regulations.

Even if that is the case, FC Nomads would need to reactivate their plans for a groundshare at Airbus UK presumably (??)


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Wrexham=based club FC Queens Park have had their application for promotion added to the list today.


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I understand they have been postponed for a year


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Wrexham=based club FC Queens Park have had their application for promotion added to the list today.


I assume they would use the athletics stadium instead of the pitch they are currently on?



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Wrexham=based club FC Queens Park have had their application for promotion added to the list today.


I assume they would use the athletics stadium instead of the pitch they are currently on?

Definitely. Their predecessors used the stadium when they played in the Cymru Alliance between 2005-08.


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Berriew planning ground improvements in advance for Tier 2 grading

http://clwbpeldroed.org/...ew-100-seater-stand/


adamsquire86
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I was at the Queens Park v Brickfield match on Saturday and overheard a conversation regarding promotion. Apparently as long as Brickfield finish in the top two they are going up. This is because Queens Park haven't got a ground that meets the Cymru Alliance criteria, and they are unable to get a ground share on the Queensway with Crusaders.

This seems a bit daft though as 1. Crusaders play there from March to October, and 2. Crusaders home games are on a Sunday.

As I said though this is only what I overheard, so it could be rubbish.

Also I assume that Brickfield have had their ground inspected and been told what is required, as there was a post on Facebook last week showing some ground improvements being made.



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(This post was edited by adamsquire86 on Mar 7, 2017, 9:14 AM)


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Brickfield tweeting their ground improvements

https://mobile.twitter.com/...244149198849/photo/1


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Rhayader Town, current leaders of the Mid Wales League, may be having problems getting the grading -

http://clwbpeldroed.org/...ue-promotion-battle/


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Rhayader Town, current leaders of the Mid Wales League, may be having problems getting the grading -

http://clwbpeldroed.org/...ue-promotion-battle/


I was at Rhayader on Saturday.
Without knowing how they might have failed the grading it is difficult to comment.They were, of course, very recently in The Cymru Alliance. Everything that was there when they were in The Welsh Premier League is still there but it doesn't look like even the slightest maintenance has been done since those days. The turnstiles were not open and full of junk and rubbish (the only way into the ground was through the players entrance) and a lot of seats in the two stands were tatty or broken. The pitch clearly has severe drainage problems and a lot of tidying up is needed.


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A current update, from Mold Alex's website -

http://www.pitchero.com/...updated-1791291.html


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http://huwsgrayalliance.co.uk/index.php/promotion

Updated as of yesterday. Now showing Rhayader and Llandudno Junction as passing. Queens Park's manager posting on Facebook last night that they're confident of being in Cymru Alliance next season too, and Stansty is up to scratch. There is also work being done on Brickfield's ground too.



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Just been updated again,

http://huwsgrayalliance.co.uk/index.php/promotion

Clubs who have shown a desire to be promoted as per FAW pyramid regulations
Welsh Alliance league
Glantraeth FAILED INSPECTION
Llandyrnog United FAILED INSPECTION
Llangefni Town PASSED INSPECTION
Llandudno Junction PASSED SECOND INSPECTION
Welsh National League
Brickfield Rangers FAILED INSPECTION
Chirk AAA FAILED INSPECTION
FC Nomads APPLIED TO GROUND SHARE
FC Queens Park APPLIED TO GROUND SHARE - PASSED SECOND INSPECTION
Mid Wales League
Berrier PASSED INSPECTION
Carno PASSED SECOND INSPECTION
Llanraeadr YM FAILED INSPECTION
Rhayader Town PASSED SECOND INSPECTION

With Rhyl coming down it looks like there'll be 4 teams relegated from the Cymru Alliance this season. Rhayader look dead certs to win the Mid Wales League, Queens Park have won the WNL, and if Glantraeth don't pass another inspection, Llandudno Junction look secure in second in the Welsh Alliance. Llangefni can mathematically still finish second too.

So the league will probably lose Buckley and Mold to the WNL, Conwy to the Alliance, and Llanfair to the Mid Wales League.



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(This post was edited by adamsquire86 on Apr 26, 2017, 2:23 PM)


gcnc
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Queens Park definitely up according to

http://clwbpeldroed.org/...d-ground-inspection/


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It now looks like all 3 champions will be promoted -

http://www.huwsgrayalliance.co.uk/...-06-25/376-promotion


Dave A
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I'm not sure if it's 100% about Glantraeth yet. Their website says they'll make a decision on promotion after they've completed their fixtures. They finished their league programme yesterday but have still got two cup finals next Tuesday and Saturday.


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Glantraeth have refused promotion - they can't commit to the two-tier criteria.


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Llandudno Junction posting on their Facebook as of an hour ago that they're going up.



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As a general football fan I would always rather the best team went up , ground grading restrictions are a menace now to clubs actually enjoying football. I went to Llandudno junction on Saturday, they also don't have enough seats but more importantly for me they didn't have enough car parking spaces (unless I completely missed them). Neither of them issues are 'that' important to a local area watching and getting behind its local team, feel sorry for Glentraeth


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Llandudno Junction have passed inspection and I understand they will be promoted. Personally, I welcome the new ground requirements as an attempt to improve facilities in the pyramid. I do think that maybe they should be funded by FAW though.

http://www.welshallianceleague.co.uk/glantraeth-to-stay-in-the-welsh-alliance-36654


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So we have the daft situation where the club that finishes top, but doesn't quite have the ground criteria which will be necessary this time next year, doesn't go up, but the second placed club where the facilities are far more basic, go up instead! Llandudno Junction don't, as far as I know, have plans or intentions to be compliant in twelve months time, so will be forcibly relegated next summer.

The basic problem here is surely the requirements of Tier 2. The need for 250 seats at Welsh League Division 1 or Cymru Alliance level is unrealistic. They will rarely if ever need all those seats, as is highlighted in the excerpt from the article on the Welsh Alliance website, where the Glantraeth secretary explains their reasoning;

We might be accused of lacking ambition but this is a dilemma that many clubs in the Welsh Alliance are going to have to face in future if they finish in a promotion position.
Our landowner Iolo Owen has generously allowed us to play on his land for over thirty years. He has allowed us to develop a tidy little ground that more than satisfies the kind of crowds we get and has in the past comfortably accommodated up to 500 for Welsh Cup ties against Rhyl for example but erecting a 250 seat stand that will rarely see more than twenty seated spectators is a step too far. There would verge on a seat for every person in the village!



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gcnc is quite correct. I have been at grounds where clubs have been forced to play at because their own grounds did not comply with the "rules." To sit in one section of a stand (with the rest cordoned off) looking over at the unused other stands is a joke.
The problem we have here is that FAW officials are stubborn in their views and most are running scared of EUFA rules. If you meet them socially they are very pleasant people but they have a 'mind set' which is not to the benefit of the grass roots game.
The huge money flowing in to the FAW, thanks to Chris Coleman and his team, should be spent in a proper fashion.
Put it like this : If for one overseas international the FAW told their Councillors and staff "No free trip for you and your families (for some of them take their children)" then that money could be used to build a cheap Atcost Stand at a promotion winning club. The fact the stand would hardly ever be used or was not needed in the first place would not come into FAW thinking.


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He has allowed us to develop a tidy little ground that more than satisfies the kind of crowds we get and has in the past comfortably accommodated up to 500 for Welsh Cup ties against Rhyl for example but erecting a 250 seat stand that will rarely see more than twenty seated spectators is a step too far. There would verge on a seat for every person in the village!


That sums up the ludicrous situation well.

It looks like the sort of clipboard wielders who have long infested England have now reached Wales. Expect standing on 'dangerous' grass to be banned next Mad.


(This post was edited by mick on May 16, 2017, 12:19 PM)

 
 


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