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wazzafan
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Dec 13, 2016, 12:20 PM

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Certainly a tricky scenario. Whoever gets moved won't be pleased about it. If Evesham being placed in the NPL South last summer before being reinstated to the SLSW is anything to go by, they may be the first in the FALC's thinking.

However, if it was down to me, and with no offense to your club, I'd probably keep AFC R&D in the NPL South, even with a groundshare at another SLC club.

The problem I foresee is, should you be allocated to the SLC next summer, whoever is placed in the NPL South will no doubt appeal the decision. With this, they may claim your club purposely chose to groundshare at a club more southern than your geographical location (and being the 44th most northern club in the country at Step 4) in order to switch to a different league, and they may state this is to the detriment of their own club. I'm not sure if this kind of reasoning will stick with the appeals panel, however it's worth thinking about.

On the flip side, newly promoted sides (in this case Westfields) don't have a definitive say in which league they are allocated in, and the FALC are increasingly becoming more likely to prioritise existing clubs at that particular level, with regards to the league they are currently playing in, or in your case, the league you wish to be moved into. Saying this, should Westfields be promoted into the NPL South, they may refuse promotion altogether.

All rather confusing, I'd keep your hopes up that Westfields don't get promoted. Angelic



Non League Projections - 2018/19: http://goo.gl/MW6EFU

Step 1: http://goo.gl/UTHzqq
Step 2: http://goo.gl/oRDNEd
Step 3: http://goo.gl/HDFmG2
Step 4: http://goo.gl/V2YxhA
Step 5: http://goo.gl/RSUfK7
Step 6: http://goo.gl/cwVvN9


royboy
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Dec 14, 2016, 8:27 AM

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Post #102 of 711 (11413 views)
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I note you have FC Bolsover going to NCE1 and Ollerton moving to EMCL.

Is it not more likely FC Bolsover would go to EMCL and Ollerton remain where they are?

As others have said you efforts are much appreciated.


wazzafan
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Dec 14, 2016, 11:02 AM

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Post #103 of 711 (11314 views)
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F.C. Bolsover are currently gorundsharing at Shirebrook Town, who currently play in the NCE1. This inclines me to think they'll be placed in the same division. Although, such examples such as F.C. Broxbourne/Eton Manor and Bagshot/Fleet Spurs shows playing at the same ground doesn't mean the same division.



Non League Projections - 2018/19: http://goo.gl/MW6EFU

Step 1: http://goo.gl/UTHzqq
Step 2: http://goo.gl/oRDNEd
Step 3: http://goo.gl/HDFmG2
Step 4: http://goo.gl/V2YxhA
Step 5: http://goo.gl/RSUfK7
Step 6: http://goo.gl/cwVvN9


windydcfc
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Dec 14, 2016, 11:25 AM

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Post #104 of 711 (11305 views)
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F.C. Bolsover are currently gorundsharing at Shirebrook Town, who currently play in the NCE1. This inclines me to think they'll be placed in the same division. Although, such examples such as F.C. Broxbourne/Eton Manor and Bagshot/Fleet Spurs shows playing at the same ground doesn't mean the same division.



A rival club in the CMLN pointed out to me that they'd started there groundshare after the start of the season. Belper Utd obviously did it last season, but the way they got round the rules was they were evicted from a ground that had the relevant grading to another ground that also had the relevant grading! Bolsover have moved ground to gain promotion & I've got a feeling they're going to be denied promotion.


windydcfc
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Jan 2, 2017, 4:59 PM

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Post #105 of 711 (10397 views)
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Been told that 3 clubs are having financial difficulties in the NCEL. They are Retford Utd, Westella & Willerby & Brigg Town. The first two are in worst states, so we may see some reprieves at the seasons end.


Dazzla84
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Jan 3, 2017, 9:04 AM

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Been told that 3 clubs are having financial difficulties in the NCEL. They are Retford Utd, Westella & Willerby & Brigg Town. The first two are in worst states, so we may see some reprieves at the seasons end.


Retford have been in trouble for a while haven't they? Ever since dropping out of the NPL i think


equal
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Jan 4, 2017, 8:39 PM

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I love this Non league projection one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JIniirEek4qDNVyE8YNphuVlBSQ4YlSqVZeDyMQxOgc/htmlview

Nice and equal for level 4, i know it might sound sad, but I can look at this non league projection for hours. Been waiting for months for it/this one. (Is that sad) who knows, I love this non league projection cas it's ace, ace.

Can't it finish like that, wishing so. Then level 4 is nice and equal.

Level 4 is nice and equal with the latest non league projection. Smile


windydcfc
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Jan 4, 2017, 9:28 PM

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Post #108 of 711 (9610 views)
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I love this Non league projection one.

https://docs.google.com/...VZeDyMQxOgc/htmlview

Nice and equal for level 4, i know it might sound sad, but I can look at this non league projection for hours. Been waiting for months for it/this one. (Is that sad) who knows, I love this non league projection cas it's ace, ace.

Can't it finish like that, wishing so. Then level 4 is nice and equal.

Level 4 is nice and equal with the latest non league projection. Smile



Stretch06
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Jan 5, 2017, 4:59 PM

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Post #109 of 711 (9341 views)
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Cant see Malmesbury Victoria accepting to kindly if are transferred back to the Hellenic League


Mister TwoU
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Jan 7, 2017, 6:18 PM

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Post #110 of 711 (9031 views)
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NB - 07/01 iteration has two Boldmeres!

No Shawbury?

Also Peterborough Sports missing.



Professional cretin.

(This post was edited by Mister TwoU on Jan 7, 2017, 8:20 PM)


TomRoystonCrow
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Jan 7, 2017, 8:26 PM

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If 3 of the National League South teams were Isthmian bound who would you transfer to the Southern League if Havant & Waterlooville go up but Bognor Regis don't or both of them go up?


(This post was edited by TomRoystonCrow on Jan 7, 2017, 8:28 PM)


Mek
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Jan 7, 2017, 8:38 PM

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Post #112 of 711 (8931 views)
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Staines would be a good call due to its proximity to the M25.


TomRoystonCrow
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Jan 7, 2017, 9:44 PM

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Be interesting to see what happens if Hayes & Yeading stay up as well.


TomRoystonCrow
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Jan 9, 2017, 12:33 AM

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If Hayes & Yeading go down, 1 club from National South was to go down to the Southern Premier League and Havant & Waterlooville don't go up and Royston Town do who would you put in the Isthmian League out of the two?


wazzafan
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Jan 9, 2017, 10:01 AM

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Post #115 of 711 (8504 views)
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I'd expect Havant & Waterlooville to stay in the Isthmian League and Royston promoted to the Southern Premier. However should Gosport Borough be relegated to the Southern League, the FALC may pair Havant & Gosport up.

P.S. Spreadsheet & maps all updated.



Non League Projections - 2018/19: http://goo.gl/MW6EFU

Step 1: http://goo.gl/UTHzqq
Step 2: http://goo.gl/oRDNEd
Step 3: http://goo.gl/HDFmG2
Step 4: http://goo.gl/V2YxhA
Step 5: http://goo.gl/RSUfK7
Step 6: http://goo.gl/cwVvN9


ladderman
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Jan 12, 2017, 8:37 AM

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Post #116 of 711 (8007 views)
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There's a rumour - and a bit of straw clutching from one of our fans - that a newly promoted club are going to fail the March 31 ground grading. Am I right in thinking that it's a step reprieve rather than a Conf South reprieve?


HarryC
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Jan 12, 2017, 8:57 AM

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There's a rumour - and a bit of straw clutching from one of our fans - that a newly promoted club are going to fail the March 31 ground grading. Am I right in thinking that it's a step reprieve rather than a Conf South reprieve?


It is no secret that Poole Town say they need another £70,000 to do immediate work to be able to stay at step 2 or face demotion back to Southern League.http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/...le_could_be_demoted/
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/...quot_shambles_quot_/



TomRoystonCrow
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Jan 13, 2017, 1:52 PM

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With Poole and Gosport both in trouble will both 20th and 21st from National South be reprieved unless Gosport finish in the relegation zone or would you reprieve 20th place from both North and South divisions are there any finicial troubles at other National League clubs as well?


Gray
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Jan 14, 2017, 5:27 PM

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I don't believe Burnham Ramblers will be very happy to play in the SECL1 !


DarkSithLord
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Jan 14, 2017, 9:17 PM

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By the way you can add Hungerford to teams in Trouble in National South as they must raise £35,00 to meet necessary ground improvements



"the force is strong with this one"

(This post was edited by DarkSithLord on Jan 14, 2017, 9:18 PM)


buncranaboy
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Jan 14, 2017, 9:24 PM

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By the way you can add Hungerford to teams in Trouble in National South as they must raise £35,00 to meet necessary ground improvements

Thirty five quid ain't much Tongue


DarkSithLord
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Jan 14, 2017, 9:32 PM

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By the way you can add Hungerford to teams in Trouble in National South as they must raise £35,00 to meet necessary ground improvements

Thirty five quid ain't much Tongue


Haha. Missed a 0. 35,000



"the force is strong with this one"


chienmort
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Jan 16, 2017, 12:41 AM

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There's a rumour - and a bit of straw clutching from one of our fans - that a newly promoted club are going to fail the March 31 ground grading. Am I right in thinking that it's a step reprieve rather than a Conf South reprieve?


It is no secret that Poole Town say they need another £70,000 to do immediate work to be able to stay at step 2 or face demotion back to Southern League.http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/...le_could_be_demoted/
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/...quot_shambles_quot_/


I think it is straw clutching don't get me wrong we need £67,000 as we have raised £3000 on just giving since Friday. The actual bill is more like £140K but we have already covered over half. work is already well under way with supporters working alongside paid contractors but we won't get into debt if the money is not forthcoming.

Those articles are a wake up call to local business and community that you should come through with what you have promised.

The long term future is looking good so even relegation would be a blip rather than a disaster.

My only query is what happens to the play offs if we:

a) Finish in the top 5

b) Somehow end up winning the league?

I know b) is extremely unlikely but we have beaten Maidenhead already this season. Our upgrades will not allow us to take promotion or compete in the playoffs.



Poole Town FC - les couilles du chien

(This post was edited by chienmort on Jan 16, 2017, 12:42 AM)


TomRoystonCrow
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Jan 22, 2017, 2:56 PM

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Stourbridge are missing


wazzafan
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Jan 22, 2017, 3:19 PM

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So they are! Got ahead of myself and forgot to promote them. They're there now.



Non League Projections - 2018/19: http://goo.gl/MW6EFU

Step 1: http://goo.gl/UTHzqq
Step 2: http://goo.gl/oRDNEd
Step 3: http://goo.gl/HDFmG2
Step 4: http://goo.gl/V2YxhA
Step 5: http://goo.gl/RSUfK7
Step 6: http://goo.gl/cwVvN9

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