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leohoenig
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The Major change in French football for 2016-17 is an introduction of play offs between the three nationwide divisions. Using the German model, the third bottom club in Ligue 1 and Ligue 2 will play a two legged match against the third placed team in the division below. The second leg of both finals will be on May 28, with the first leg in the previous mid-week.

Hopefully this does not cause a clash with the final of the 100th edition of the Coupe de France, to be played at Stade de France on May 27. (Incidentally, while the cup has been played every season since 1917-18 – no stops for wars, it has only been awarded 98 times, as the tournament was not concluded after the 1992 Furiani Stadium disaster). For the record, the 7th round of the Coupe de France, (surely everybody’s favourite) will be the weekend of 12th November.

From Ligue 1, Troyes, Gazelec Ajaccio and Stade de Reims were relegated to be replaced by Nancy, Dijon and Metz
This means we will see an Ajaccio derby in Ligue 2, which also loses Paris FC and Creteil to the National League. Evian TG also drop and go down an extra step due to financial problems. The incomers are RC Strasbourg, Orleans and Amiens

In the National League, the incoming teams from CFA are Quevilly-Rouen, Lyon-Duchere, Pau and Concarneau – each promoted as champions of their CFA section. Frejus St-Raphael finished bottom and were relegated. With Evian not joining the division, Les Herbiers were saved for the season. Lucon (11th) have resigned for financial reasons, while Colmar are demoted have filed for insolvency. Both drop to division d’Honneur – the sixth level. This means Epinal also retain their place. (Colmar were third bottom).

The CFA supposedly relegates three clubs per section, allowing 12 to come up from CFA2. As only two clubs come into the area above, two of the 14th placed clubs were reprieved. The comparison table for reprieves is based on the results against the five clubs that finish immediately above, (9th to 13th positions for 14th place teams). This means Troyes (reserves), the 14th place team with most points still went down as they had the worst record in the mini-table. Sarre-Union were also relegated from 14th place, while Rodez and Vitre escaped. Moulins forfeited their final two games and are being relegated for financial reasons. They were placed bottom of group B, although they gained enough points to finish 12th. Arles-Avignon were dissolved much earlier in the season, and had their record expunged. They are shown as bottom of group C. Also relegated are Aubervilliers, Roye-Noyon (group A), Sochaux (res) (Group B), Aviron Bayonne (Group C), Stade Bordelais and Bordeaux (res) (Group D)

Seven of the eight CFA 2 Champions were promoted, there are Rennes (res), Chartres, ES Paulhan-Pezenas, Andrezieux, Reims (res), Lille (res) and Le Havre (res). Group D champions Toulon are merging with Toulon-Le Las from the division above as Sporting Club Toulon. This means they could not be promoted and Annecy go up from the runners-up position. The other four promotion places are decided on the record against the top five clubs eligible for promotion. A number of the reserve teams are ineligible. I am not sure if Toulon also fell into the category, or if a team from Group D was included in the table. Nimes (res), who finished third were ineligible. The promotions went to Granville (A), Montpellier (res) (C), Raon-l’Etape (F) and Lusitanos St-Maur (G)

From CFA 2, the bottom two were relegated in every case – these are Pontivy and Saint-Lo (A), Chatearoux (res) and Challons (B), Blagnac and Villenave (C), Aix-les-Bains and Arles Avignon (res) (D), Thiers and Sens (E), Epernay and Thaon (F), Aulnoye and Valenciennes (res) (G), ASPTT Caen and Gonreville (H) – Arles Avignon had been placed last after not finishing the season.

There are 22 regional leagues below CFA2, and all 22 champions have been promoted, (Cut and paste here from Wiki, not actually checked), these are
Lozère, Blois, Chamalières, Cozes, Créteil reserves, Divaise, Fléchois, Furiani-Agliani, Grasse,Limonest, Louhans-Cuiseaux, Lunéville, Maubeuge, Ornans, Pau reserves, Prix-lès-Mézières, Quevilly reserves, Rodéo, Segré, Senlisienne, Strasbourg Vauban and Vannes.

Sporting Club Toulon reserves keep the place in CFA2 from the pre-merger Toulon.

Chattellerault were demoted for financial reasons post season

So, the sums
112 clubs in CFA2 last season. 12 promoted to CFA, 17 already listed as relegated or demoted = 83
22 clubs promoted from Division d’Honneur, 8 relegated from CFA would bring the total to 113.
Clubs finishing in 13th can be relegated, but two of them should always be saved as there are only 22 leagues at the level below. In this season, only Poire-sur-Vie (Group B) was unlucky enough to make the drop.

Make up of CFA groups attached



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Attachments: CFA.pdf (212 KB)
  CFA 2.pdf (223 KB)


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There are 22 regional leagues below CFA2, and all 22 champions have been promoted, (Cut and paste here from Wiki, not actually checked), these are
Lozère, Blois, Chamalières, Cozes, Créteil reserves, Divaise, Fléchois, Furiani-Agliani, Grasse,Limonest, Louhans-Cuiseaux, Lunéville, Maubeuge, Ornans, Pau reserves, Prix-lès-Mézières, Quevilly reserves, Rodéo, Segré, Senlisienne, Strasbourg Vauban and Vannes.


One very belated change, confirmed today!

SU Dives-Cabourg (Ligue de Basse Normandie) were denied promotion to CFA2 after an appeal by Avranches, who had finished 10 points behind Dives. They claimed Dives did not have the minimum number of under 7 year olds at the club. LBN rejected the appeal and Avranches then appealed to FFF where the appeal was upheld and Avranches were given the promotion spot.

Dives took their case to the Comite National Olympique Sportif Francais who sided with Dives. The FFF ignored the verdict.

Today the FFF has announced that Dives have been given the vacant place in CFA2 Groupe F, following the withdrawal of Evian 2. This group serves Rhone-Alpes, Auvergne, Bourgogne, Corse. So there are some big trips ahead for the Normandie team

Teams have already played 4 matches in CFA2 and Dives have already played 3 matches in Basse Normandie DH.

Edit: Reading further, it's not definite that SUDC will go into Groupe F. There is still the option to expand a more local group to 15 clubs.


(This post was edited by PaulC on Sep 22, 2016, 9:51 PM)


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Sep 23, 2016, 9:27 PM

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did not have the minimum number of under 7 year olds at the club.

I've heard of clubs being denied promotion due to all sorts of technicalities, but that's a new one...



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