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garethwrexy
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some interesting results lets say
neil Hamilton back in office for ukip in south wales !



wrexham fc fa trophy winners 2013 !


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some interesting results lets say
neil Hamilton back in office for ukip in south wales !


Good news and bad news for Zac Goldsmith.

The bad news is he was well beaten by Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral elecion.

The good news is he still continues to own most of London.


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Very pleased about the results in London, which will hopefully lead to some much improved policies, particularly on planning. It would have been a disgrace if Goldsmith had won after running such a divisive campaign; it really did say something for the media that despite Goldsmith's campaign tactics and Boris' recent comments about Obama that they made a supreme effort to pin the racism problem tag exclusively on Labour. Just a shame that it wasn't till today that the Tories GLA leader admitted as much (his exact words were “I don’t think it was dog whistle, because you can’t hear a dog whistle. Everybody could hear this.”).

Also pleased to see UKIP failing to win a seat in Scotland (and also looking like Northern Ireland). It seems touch and go whether they'll win a seat on the GLA. Shame about Wales, but hopefully now they've got some seats in the Assembly people will soon realise they are a bunch of disgruntled right-wing Tories rather than the working class representatives that they seem to have fooled some of the more gullible voters into thinking they are.

Although the SNP lost their majority, the victory is still quite impressive given the campaign against them in most of the media (at least judging by what I saw in the papers last weekend). Nice to see the Greens picking up a few more seats - I thought Patrick Harvie was one of the best leaders in the debate I saw at the weekend.

Disappointed to see several independent PCCs were beaten by party stooges.


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Don't the UKIP WA members actually distrust & dislike each other. They are really going to make a difference in WalesCrazyTongue


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some interesting results lets say
neil Hamilton back in office for ukip in south wales !


Good news and bad news for Zac Goldsmith.

The bad news is he was well beaten by Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral elecion.

The good news is he still continues to own most of London.


Funny, for years you gave many of us the impression that you didn't give a stuff what happened in London.


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Here we go again: gullible working-class voters fooled by right-wing liars. What is it with some people?

Boris Johnson was correct to draw attention to Barry O's bad attitude to the UK. There was nothing 'racist' about it (that was dealt with here on another thread; maybe you missed that). Of course, the McPherson principle means 'racism' is in danger of becoming a Humpty-Dumpty word.

Goldsmith: fair cop. He should not have made it so personal but it is not racist to criticise a Muslim. You might be on firmer ground if you described his actions as bordering on the slanderous.


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Funny, for years you gave many of us the impression that you didn't give a stuff what happened in London.


"Serious counting error" delays London announcement until midnight.

Scotland should have sent some of its counters down - they'd finished before London started.


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labour are no longer the working claas party ukip is party for working class to vote for



wrexham fc fa trophy winners 2013 !


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labour are no longer the working claas party ukip is party for working class to vote for


No-one told the working-class voters of Sheffield Brightside or Ogmore this, so they continued to vote Labour anyway.
They did however pick up enough votes to beat the Tories in Sheffield.



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Every time I see Farage, I think he's the epitome of a working class manCrazy


Yatesman
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Funny, for years you gave many of us the impression that you didn't give a stuff what happened in London.


"Serious counting error" delays London announcement until midnight.

Scotland should have sent some of its counters down - they'd finished before London started.





There are probably twice as many votes cast in London than in the whole of Scotland so you'd have to send down all your counters and then some!

The Tories have had a big let off in England where Labour , new leader and 6 years in opposition, should have wiped the floor with them. Still, everyone was predicting a sh*t night for Labour so just having a bad night seems like they did quite well.

The Tories in Scotland are back in the game! Ruth Davidson is very impressive and deserves her success. I accept that the Scottish commentators on here won't give her any credit, but I watch a lot of Scottish political coverage and she comes across really well and is a lot warmer than Oor Nicky!

Ukip can be pleased with themselves after increasing their vote across England and Wales and gaining representatives in Wales for the first time.

The Lib Dems really will struggle to gain too much comfort from yesterday.

As for London, I never really picked up on the campaign here in Bristol , but accept from what I've heard that it was unpleasant from Goldsmith, as was Livingstone's attempt to equate Zionism with Nazism. Still, when did we start to think politicians resided on the higher moral ground ! We know they don't.


Btw, a further though re: UKIP...If anyone really believes that Ukip are simply disgruntled Tories they are immensely delusional.
At the last general election the received just shy of 4million votes and The Tories won the election. Labour were trashed. Lib Dems were trashed.
Ukip gets plenty, plenty, plenty votes from Labour...to say otherwise is , well, ignorant tbh.


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The Tories in Scotland are back in the game! Ruth Davidson is very impressive and deserves her success. I accept that the Scottish commentators on here won't give her any credit, but I watch a lot of Scottish political coverage and she comes across really well and is a lot warmer than Oor Nicky!


Really? My apolitical girlfriend watched one of the Scottish debates and thought Davidson was horrible (actually she was quite a bit ruder) and that Sturgeon came across as much nicer.


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Btw, a further though re: UKIP...If anyone really believes that Ukip are simply disgruntled Tories they are immensely delusional.
At the last general election the received just shy of 4million votes and The Tories won the election. Labour were trashed. Lib Dems were trashed.
Ukip gets plenty, plenty, plenty votes from Labour...to say otherwise is , well, ignorant tbh.


I said that UKIP are disgruntled Tories, not their voters. A significant proportion of their senior politicians are former Tories (Farage, Hamilton, Reckless, Carswell, Helmer, Evans to name a few), as are some of their major donors (e.g. Stuart Wheeler, Paul Sykes).


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Also interesting to see that the People Before Profit Alliance has won a seat in the NI Assembly, apparently taken by a "revolutionary socialist". When was the last time we had one of these elected at this level?


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No-one told the working-class voters of Sheffield Brightside or Ogmore this, so they continued to vote Labour anyway.
They did however pick up enough votes to beat the Tories in Sheffield.


Given the sad circumstances, of Harry Harpham's death in office after only 260 days as an MP and his widow standing as his successor, it's difficult to draw any conclusions from the result in Sheffield Brightside & Hillsborough.

However, in a very low turn out, UKIP polled more votes than all the other losing candidates combined.

Even including "The Bring Back Elmo" candidate.

More interesting and depressing were the results in the elections to Rotherham Council where Labour won 48 out of 63 seats and, given recent history there, it turns out that if you put up a dead dog with a Labour label enough people will automatically vote for it for the party to hold on. No matter how utterly rotten the local party is.


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At least most of you know what happened in the local elections in your area. Where I live they are not starting the count until Sunday. Presumably this will mean that the council employees involved will be paid triple time and get an extra two days holiday off in lieu.


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At least most of you know what happened in the local elections in your area. Where I live they are not starting the count until Sunday. Presumably this will mean that the council employees involved will be paid triple time and get an extra two days holiday off in lieu.


Are they Junior Doctors by any chance ?


Yatesman
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The Tories in Scotland are back in the game! Ruth Davidson is very impressive and deserves her success. I accept that the Scottish commentators on here won't give her any credit, but I watch a lot of Scottish political coverage and she comes across really well and is a lot warmer than Oor Nicky!


Really? My apolitical girlfriend watched one of the Scottish debates and thought Davidson was horrible (actually she was quite a bit ruder) and that Sturgeon came across as much nicer.


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Btw, a further though re: UKIP...If anyone really believes that Ukip are simply disgruntled Tories they are immensely delusional.
At the last general election the received just shy of 4million votes and The Tories won the election. Labour were trashed. Lib Dems were trashed.
Ukip gets plenty, plenty, plenty votes from Labour...to say otherwise is , well, ignorant tbh.


I said that UKIP are disgruntled Tories, not their voters. A significant proportion of their senior politicians are former Tories (Farage, Hamilton, Reckless, Carswell, Helmer, Evans to name a few), as are some of their major donors (e.g. Stuart Wheeler, Paul Sykes).


Fair point...and you are right, which makes the fact that Labour voters went over to them by the million even more surprising and shows how difficult it will be for them to win them back in the future.

Good news for Labour re : London Mayor where hope defeated cynicism it would seem.

Re: Ruth Davidson....she can be tough when she needs to be and can certainly get her point across and that is what Scotland needs, a strong opposition who can aren't frightened to take the SNP to task when necessary. I watched a lot of the coverage, not just the debate, on Reporting Scotland and across all the channels and Davidson came across really well.
My partner lives IN Scotland and has voted Labour her whole life in every election at every level of democracy.
On Thursday she had two votes...one went to Labour....the other went to The Conservatives! You can thank Ruth Davidson for that.
If I was a Scottish voter I would have voted Conservative at this election ( that would have been a first for me also!)


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There are probably twice as many votes cast in London than in the whole of Scotland so you'd have to send down all your counters and then some!.


About 2.6 miillion to 2.2 million, so not that much of a difference, at least in relation to first preference votes.

One point about Labour's fairly flat performance in England at least, is that we're comparing things to 2012 where they already were the national opposition and had a very successful night, winning loads of councils and gaining hundreds of councillors. So perhaps there wasn't really much of an upside for Labour in England that was realistically achievable in any circumstances.

That doesn't explain their dismal performance in Scotland though; I never thought I'd see the day where The Conservatives end up with more seats in the Scottish Parliament than Labour (although the latter did win a fraction more of the constituency votes).


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Neil Hamilton is the man for the working class?


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So, presumably, if council staff were not at their posts on Friday because they were counting the votes, you wouldn't have said "no council services today! - they're all counting votes"

As you don't say where you live, I can't really comment more specifically, but all I can say for the part of N Yorks where I live, whilst council staff lead the process (and have to as they are legally responsible) the majority of counters and indeed polling station staff are non-council employees


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With respect, that's a cheap comment, not of the same level of insight of your usual contributions.


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Ruth Davidson's success has been helped by totally distancing herself from the English Tories.

She knows that Westminster Tories are a "toxic brand" in Scotland.

She ran an excellent campaign to pick up votes with her "anti-independence" and "strong opposition" policies.

She knew that extolling the Tory policies that seem to go down ok in England would be political suicide in Scotland. She also has said that she is "not a natural Tory" - she joined politics with a purpose and I'm not sure that was ideologically motivated.

Her personality is a bit marmite - I like her because of her Fife upbringing, her Dad being a part-time pro footballer and he being such a keen football fan.

Others think that she is a self-made personality cult, same as her look-a-like Kim Jong Un.

Not sure what direction she will take in the future.

Maybe she does realise that an independent Scotland is ultimately inevitable (sadly) as the demographic changes and the old codgers die off.

Perhaps she will take the Scottish Tories down a path of complete separation from the Westminster-based party.

She could actually be a future Scottish Prime Minister if she played her cards right. Maybe this is how she she's herself and, in part, she has pulled the wool over the eyes of Tory sympathisers in Scotland. And I do think that her talent is fueled by the sort of self-confidence and motivation that could take her all the way..


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labour wont win in 2020



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labour wont win in 2020

Maybe not Gareth, but the Tories could easily lose there tiny majority.
Especially if they keep infighting after the referendum, whatever the result. Then this could turn into 'all out civil war' by the time we get to there leadership election.


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labour wont win in 2020

A trip to the bookies Gareth? I reckon at long last you're onto a winnerSly

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