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UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 2015/16

 



Ronsdog
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Sep 30, 2015, 12:28 PM

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Following yesterday evenings games and the first round of games, is it not apparent that the Premier Leagues participants are falling behind our European opponents in both terms of tactics and game plans?

If this trend continues could we find only three sides from England taking part?


KnowYourMarket
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Oct 1, 2015, 12:14 PM

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Yes if Italian clubs continue to outperform English clubs like they did last season. They're currently 4.22 points behind, Italians scored 5.429 points more than England last season. So if there was a repeat we will fall behind.

6 out of 8 English sides still in, 5 out of 6 Italians.



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leohoenig
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Oct 2, 2015, 7:10 AM

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So far, England have out performed the Italians, and we have more points to date (still not as good as LiechtensteinSmile).

However, the buildup of bonus points in the knock out rounds means getting teams through to the spring is important

The important thing to remember is that it is a five year summation, so one season gets taking off each time, and England comfortably did better than Italy in 2011-12. This means Italy catch up four points at the start of next season - which puts them ahead unless England get about one point more than Italy this season



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Tykeoldboy
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Oct 3, 2015, 9:59 PM

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This is a hypothetical question so should never happen, so it probably will. Cast your minds back to Liverpool winning the Champions League. They finished outside the Champions League qualifying positions that season and under the then rule (maximum 4 teams from any one country) missed out on defending their title. In the end the rules were relaxed and Liverpool entered the Champions League and England had 5 teams in the Champions League the following year.

Since then the rule has been changed and this season Spain have 5 teams in the Champions League, Sevilla qualifying by winning the Europa League.

This season Chelsea are struggling, or battling if you prefer, with relegation, although this may change over the rest of the season, we could have a situation where, lets say, Chelsea win the Champions League but finish lower than 4th in the Premier League and Liverpool or Tottenham win the Europa League both also finish below 4th in the Premier League. This would give England 6 representatives in the Champions League 2016/17. The top 4 the the Premier League plus Champions League and Europa League winners.

This got me thinking, what are the rules now regarding the maximum number of teams one country can have in the Champions League?



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zebedee
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Oct 3, 2015, 11:26 PM

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The maximum is now five, and the rules state that in this case the team finishing fourth in the league is dropped down to the Europa League.


jrev61
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Oct 3, 2015, 11:51 PM

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Chelsea could be the first second division team to play in the Champions League in the unlikely event of them winning the trophy this season.Smile



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Matty
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Oct 4, 2015, 7:21 AM

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Chelsea could be the first second division team to play in the Champions League in the unlikely event of them winning the trophy this season.Smile

Which made me think who has been relegated as reigning champions here or abroad. I am thinking league position only not finance etc.


Bantam Cymraeg
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Oct 4, 2015, 7:32 AM

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Chelsea could be the first second division team to play in the Champions League in the unlikely event of them winning the trophy this season.Smile

Which made me think who has been relegated as reigning champions here or abroad. I am thinking league position only not finance etc.


Manchester City were champions in 1936-37, but were relegated 12 months later. They finished 21st out of 22 despite having a positive goal difference and being the top scorers in the division.

EDIT: Another one - Barry Town won the Welsh Prem in 2002-03 (their 7th title in 8 seasons), but only won 3 games the following season and were relegated.


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zebedee
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Entente Setif won the Algerian title in 1986-87. The following season they were relegated, before winning the second division title in 1988-89. The second half of their relegation season, and the first half of their second tier campaign coincided with their run in the African Champions Cup, which eventually ended with victory over Iwuanyanwu Nationale in the final.

 
 


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