Non League Matters - The Continuation of Tonys english Football Site 



  Main Index MAIN
INDEX
Search Posts SEARCH
POSTS
Who's Online WHO'S
ONLINE
Log in LOG
IN

Home: Non Football Related: General Chat:
General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll

 



CND67
First Team Star


Aug 3, 2014, 9:37 AM

Posts: 2458
Location:
Team(s): Wolverhampton Wanderers & England

Post #1 of 24 (3096 views)
Shortcut
General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll Can't Post or Reply Privately

Not sure how this could be arranged but I think it would be interesting to see the voting intentions of ground hoppers ahead of next season's general election.
I'm sure there would be a diverse range of voting intentions even though we all share the same (or similar) hobby.

I would like to think hoppers are slightly to the left of the general population but what do others think? Or does anyone have the IT skills to set up such a poll?



Last New Ground: Bamber Bridge
Grounds Visited: 1,149


Eastbourne
Chelsea Transfer Target

Aug 3, 2014, 1:23 PM

Posts: 3186
Location: Eastbourne
Team(s): Chelsea,Eastbourne clubs

Post #2 of 24 (3042 views)
Shortcut
Re: [CND67] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

Most hoppers can't agree on whether to allow 3G or not....what chance do we have trying to elect a government?


HantsLondoner
First Team Star

Aug 4, 2014, 9:21 AM

Posts: 2829
Location: South Hampshire
Team(s): Hants/Middx/Sussex Non-League, Brentford, THFC, Eastleigh, SC Freiburg

Post #3 of 24 (2937 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Eastbourne] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

'I would like to think hoppers are slightly to the left of the general population'


Judging by some of the comments on the forum, I doubt it.


SurveyMonkey is a free way of setting up a poll. Sorry, I'm too busy myself, but I'm told it's easy to set up.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/



If you're going to/been to a Hampshire Premier League match, I'd really appreciate you filling in a questionnaire - available in the Groundhopping/General section, or just PM me for a copy. Thanks.

(This post was edited by HantsLondoner on Aug 4, 2014, 9:22 AM)


AndyE
First Team Star

Aug 5, 2014, 5:30 PM

Posts: 2390
Location: Rochester
Team(s):

Post #4 of 24 (2786 views)
Shortcut
Re: [HantsLondoner] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

I tend to agree with CND67's assertion. Given that discussion of politics is not encouraged on this forum, I don't think we can assume that any political opinions which are expressed are representative of the forum population.

If we were to construct a "median forum member" from all the people who come here, it would be a white male a few years either side of 50 who lives somewhere in Central England. He is neither utterly broke nor conspicuously wealthy, he likes football but can take or leave the Premier League, and he has his moments with the Grumpy Old Man stereotype. (Or am I just describing myself here? No, I can't be; I live in Kent. That's OK then ...)

And actually, that constituency is one of the key battlegrounds for next year's election. Most of the members of the constituency voted Conservative in 1987 and Labour in 1997, but have been less predictable at other elections. Some have been attracted by UKIP in more recent time, but they are a minority of the constituency.

The opinion polls are calling that constituency for Labour right now, but a lot could happen in the nine months before the election.


jrev61
Man City Transfer Target!

Aug 5, 2014, 6:03 PM

Posts: 7911
Location: Northampton
Team(s): None

Post #5 of 24 (2779 views)
Shortcut
Re: [AndyE] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To
I tend to agree with CND67's assertion. Given that discussion of politics is not encouraged on this forum, I don't think we can assume that any political opinions which are expressed are representative of the forum population.

If we were to construct a "median forum member" from all the people who come here, it would be a white male a few years either side of 50 who lives somewhere in Central England. He is neither utterly broke nor conspicuously wealthy, he likes football but can take or leave the Premier League, and he has his moments with the Grumpy Old Man stereotype. (Or am I just describing myself here? No, I can't be; I live in Kent. That's OK then ...)

And actually, that constituency is one of the key battlegrounds for next year's election. Most of the members of the constituency voted Conservative in 1987 and Labour in 1997, but have been less predictable at other elections. Some have been attracted by UKIP in more recent time, but they are a minority of the constituency.

The opinion polls are calling that constituency for Labour right now, but a lot could happen in the nine months before the election.



That description fits me fairly accurately. But I would like to point out that I didn't vote Conservative in 1987 or indeed any other time.



jrev61


acmold
Man City Transfer Target!

Aug 5, 2014, 6:36 PM

Posts: 14497
Location:
Team(s):

Post #6 of 24 (2762 views)
Shortcut
Re: [jrev61] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or

I'm almost agreeing with JR not something that happens very often, I have never voted Tory either. I don't like to waste a vote but at the moment is anyone really worth voting for?. I don't like voting for "looney" parties which leaves me with little or no choice.


non-league fan
Banned

Aug 5, 2014, 9:41 PM

Posts: 644
Location:
Team(s): Oxford United, also groundhopper

Post #7 of 24 (2723 views)
Shortcut
Re: [acmold] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or


In Reply To
I'm almost agreeing with JR not something that happens very often, I have never voted Tory either. I don't like to waste a vote but at the moment is anyone really worth voting for?. I don't like voting for "looney" parties which leaves me with little or no choice.


I don't know if the Green Party were what you were thinking of when you mentioned "loony parties" but I've voted for them in the last few elections. I may however return to Labour at the general election because I feel sorry for Ed Miliband getting so much stick from the press.


CND67
First Team Star


Aug 5, 2014, 11:13 PM

Posts: 2458
Location:
Team(s): Wolverhampton Wanderers & England

Post #8 of 24 (2702 views)
Shortcut
Re: [non-league fan] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

I think a lot of people will hold their nose and vote Labour at the General Election just to get rid of the Tories. There just isn't much choice out there, the 3 main parties all agree with each other and parties like the Greens have proved to be no better when in power (look at Brighton where they control the council and are making cuts!). I voted TUSC (Trade Unionist & Socialist Coalition) last time and probably will agin in 2015. Just can't stand the thought of a Tory majority Government!



Last New Ground: Bamber Bridge
Grounds Visited: 1,149

(This post was edited by CND67 on Aug 9, 2014, 10:34 AM)


Mega Hot tea
Reserve Team Sub


Aug 7, 2014, 8:25 PM

Posts: 511
Location: Herts
Team(s): Kidderminster Harriers & Boreham Wood

Post #9 of 24 (2604 views)
Shortcut
Re: [CND67] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

The problem with our political system is that people will back a party blindly out of tradition without ever really questioning why or what for, Tory voters hate Labour, Labour voters hate Tory rather like an Arsenal fan has to hate Spurs simply because that is the way it is. They do not know anything other than the general cliches.

Im a Trade Unionist before being a Labour voter, (although ive never worked in a unionised workplace or ever even been on a demo or a strike) i just sympathise with the values and intentions that Unions have, I think they are a wonderfull thing for democracy social progress and fairness. I easily would vote for the new Labour leader during a leadership contest but not necssarily then vote for the two faced goon in national elections, im sure there are many like me.


VP
Man City Transfer Target!


Aug 7, 2014, 8:41 PM

Posts: 10242
Location:
Team(s):

Post #10 of 24 (2592 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Mega Hot tea] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To
The problem with our political system is that people will back a party blindly out of tradition without ever really questioning why or what for, Tory voters hate Labour, Labour voters hate Tory rather like an Arsenal fan has to hate Spurs simply because that is the way it is. They do not know anything other than the general cliches.


I agree.
I've never been a fan of party politics, especially not at a local level and change my vote all the time. In my lifetime I have voted for Labour, The Liberal Democrats, the Conservatives and The Green Party depending on which election it is and what issues are important to me at that election. Having said that, I think I've not voted at all more often than actually voting. I've lived under Thatcher, Blair and the current lot and have very little time for any of them as they're all just puppets of big business and basically the same. Party politics is just a charade in my opinion. I believe how you spend your money and live your life is as important politcially as who you vote for.

Two anarchist sayings spring to mind. 'If voting changed anything they'd make it illegal' and 'whoever you vote for, government wins'.


Fanatic
First Team Star


Aug 7, 2014, 9:34 PM

Posts: 2427
Location: Aldgate
Team(s):

Post #11 of 24 (2569 views)
Shortcut
Re: [VP] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To
I've never been a fan of party politics, especially not at a local level and change my vote all the time. In my lifetime I have voted for Labour, The Liberal Democrats, the Conservatives and The Green Party depending on which election it is and what issues are important to me at that election. Having said that, I think I've not voted at all more often than actually voting. I've lived under Thatcher, Blair and the current lot and have very little time for any of them as they're all just puppets of big business and basically the same. Party politics is just a charade in my opinion. I believe how you spend your money and live your life is as important politcially as who you vote for.


My experience is that party politics is more effective at the local level, as councillors tend to be grassroots members who stick more closely to what the parties are supposed to stand for, whereas national politicians are far more alike in their views (probably due to whose money is going into their pockets or being terrified of upsetting Mr Murdoch et al). Having worked at both Conservative and Labour-dominated councils, I've seen a huge difference between the respective sets of councillors, and it's certainly reinforced my view of which side of the political spectrum is preferable.

My vote at the general election will depend on where I live at the time. If I'm back in Ipswich, I'll vote for Labour, if only to get rid of the obnoxious Tory MP. If I'm still living in London (in a safe Labour seat), I'll vote with my conscience - possibly Green, but currently undecided.


sandhurstbee
Man City Transfer Target!


Aug 8, 2014, 1:17 PM

Posts: 6446
Location: Little Sandhurst, Berkshire
Team(s): Brentford, Sandhurst Town and Most local Non League sides.

Post #12 of 24 (2501 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Fanatic] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

I must admit I have voted Labour all my life but the current bunch are probably the worse I have ever seen. My parents told us to always vote, if you don`t then you can`t moan about the result. I would never vote Tory and the Lib Dems showed their true colours on going back on their own policies when they joined the Tories. Which leaves the smaller fringe parties to vote for but you know none of them will get in so it is like a wasted vote. Thank god there are no politics in Groundhopping, Then again......Tongue



***********************************
Last New Ground 2016/17 (15) 29/4/2017 HIGHMOOR/IBIS RESERVES 1 Mortimer 1 - Thames Valley premier league, Premier Division



(This post was edited by sandhurstbee on Aug 8, 2014, 1:18 PM)


Mega Hot tea
Reserve Team Sub


Aug 10, 2014, 12:34 PM

Posts: 511
Location: Herts
Team(s): Kidderminster Harriers & Boreham Wood

Post #13 of 24 (2344 views)
Shortcut
Re: [sandhurstbee] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


Quote
'I would like to think hoppers are slightly to the left of the general population'


Well Non-league fans in general like to;

1. Get behind the underdog,
2. Bear grudges against the ambitious
3. Support things that are economically unvialble and unstainable.


wishmaster3211
First Team Star


Aug 10, 2014, 1:32 PM

Posts: 2481
Location: A small town in Monmouthshire
Team(s): Calne Town, Darlington, Rosenborg, Sussex CCC, Huddersfield RL

Post #14 of 24 (2324 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Mega Hot tea] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To

Quote
'I would like to think hoppers are slightly to the left of the general population'


Well Non-league fans in general like to;

1. Get behind the underdog,
2. Bear grudges against the ambitious
3. Support things that are economically unvialble and unstainable.


We shouldn't really do Politics on here but that means we ought to be an even split between UKIP and the Greens!



"Run For the Hills Before They Burn"

Checkout my Facebook page "Proper Football Grounds"

facebook.com/paul.fergusson


splodge
Chelsea Transfer Target


Aug 16, 2014, 6:11 AM

Posts: 4849
Location:
Team(s): Fareham Town, Hampshire League

Post #15 of 24 (2109 views)
Shortcut
Re: [sandhurstbee] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To
My parents told us to always vote, if you don`t then you can`t moan about the result.


I always vote for the none of those mentioned party Tongue

That way I am not supporting someone/idea I don't believe in simply because I am supposed to, whilst at the same time carrying out my democratic duty and voting.

One rule I would change is that all prospective politicians need to have lived in the constituency they are looking to represent for a minimum of 3 years before the election and all the while they are serving that constituency.



www.twitter.com/splodgey
www.facebook.com/paulsplodgeproctor


yorkieexile
First Team Star

Aug 16, 2014, 7:10 AM

Posts: 2738
Location: Barwell
Team(s): Halifax, Groundhopper

Post #16 of 24 (2101 views)
Shortcut
Re: [splodge] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

I understand your sentiments about living in the constituency once elected.

Perhaps the same rules should apply in football - in order to play for Fareham Town you must live within the borough.

Not going to work, is it?


Ostrich
First Team Sub

Aug 16, 2014, 10:59 AM

Posts: 1178
Location:
Team(s):

Post #17 of 24 (2055 views)
Shortcut
Re: [splodge] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To

In Reply To
My parents told us to always vote, if you don`t then you can`t moan about the result.

...... whilst at the same time carrying out my democratic duty and voting.


Democratic duty? Can't go along with that, I'm afraid ..... Why waste your time and effort on a meaningless charade?

You see, where I live, and I suspect it applies to many of you as well, it's absolutely of no consequence who I vote for. Quite simply, they could hang a blue rosette on a cockroach in this consistuency, and it would still be elected by a vast majority.

So, until they ditch first-past-the-post and switch to some form of proportional representation, so my vote actually counts for something in the scheme of things, I'll not bother thanks all the same.

Sorry for the rant. It's a particular bugbear of mine. And my mood's not been helped this morning by finding out they're charging 16 admission at my chosen game Conference North Tamworth this afternoon ....


timmy tabby
First Team Star

Aug 17, 2014, 8:50 AM

Posts: 1737
Location:
Team(s):

Post #18 of 24 (1969 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Ostrich] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

Fully agree with the sentiments of the learned flightless Ostrich, a basic principle of any democratic system is that every vote should have equal value. However, under First Past the Post, my vote next May in Thurrock (where the incumbent Tory MP has a majority of 92) is worth far more than Ostrich's vote in suburban Birmingham, where the Cockroach wearing the blue rosette who charged this boards flightless bird 16.00 for entry to The Lamb yesterday will no doubt be re-elected.

Hold on though, did we not have a referendum about changing the electoral system a few years ago and the majority voted against changing the system. Ah the concept of the tyranny of the majority....


(This post was edited by timmy tabby on Aug 17, 2014, 9:03 AM)


Fanatic
First Team Star


Aug 17, 2014, 11:08 AM

Posts: 2427
Location: Aldgate
Team(s):

Post #19 of 24 (1939 views)
Shortcut
Re: [timmy tabby] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To
Hold on though, did we not have a referendum about changing the electoral system a few years ago and the majority voted against changing the system. Ah the concept of the tyranny of the majority....


In fairness, the "no" campaign did rely almost entirely on the lie about how much it would cost to implement. Given that the lie was then taken up by the majority of the media (including the Times, which was the point at which I finally gave up hope of it being one of the few papers that would put the truth above politics), I wasn't entirely surprised at the result.

[Sorry if this comes across as a bit of a rant, but personally I see the referendum as an all-time low in British political discourse]


PaulC
Man City Transfer Target!


Aug 17, 2014, 1:26 PM

Posts: 11802
Location: Ayrshire, Midlothian
Team(s): AFC Darwen, Troon, Ayr Utd, Burnley

Post #20 of 24 (1908 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Fanatic] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To

[Sorry if this comes across as a bit of a rant, but personally I see the referendum as an all-time low in British political discourse]


You haven't been following the Scottish referendum debate then. Dreadful stuff from the media and sadly the BBC has been one of the worst.


splodge
Chelsea Transfer Target


Aug 17, 2014, 4:06 PM

Posts: 4849
Location:
Team(s): Fareham Town, Hampshire League

Post #21 of 24 (1874 views)
Shortcut
Re: [yorkieexile] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To
I understand your sentiments about living in the constituency once elected.

Perhaps the same rules should apply in football - in order to play for Fareham Town you must live within the borough.

Not going to work, is it?


Sorry Peter you are saying a semi-pro footballer who if they are lucky gets a win bonus paid for by a club, should be treated the same as someone who wants a career (Technically a public servant although we all know its only to feather their own nests) who is paid with 2nd house, expenses, perks etc nigh on 120,000 a year out the public purse.

One thing I do agree with. Its never going to happen, but it should.



www.twitter.com/splodgey
www.facebook.com/paulsplodgeproctor


splodge
Chelsea Transfer Target


Aug 17, 2014, 4:10 PM

Posts: 4849
Location:
Team(s): Fareham Town, Hampshire League

Post #22 of 24 (1871 views)
Shortcut
Re: [Ostrich] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately


In Reply To

In Reply To

In Reply To
My parents told us to always vote, if you don`t then you can`t moan about the result.

...... whilst at the same time carrying out my democratic duty and voting.


Democratic duty? Can't go along with that, I'm afraid ..... Why waste your time and effort on a meaningless charade?

You see, where I live, and I suspect it applies to many of you as well, it's absolutely of no consequence who I vote for. Quite simply, they could hang a blue rosette on a cockroach in this consistuency, and it would still be elected by a vast majority.

So, until they ditch first-past-the-post and switch to some form of proportional representation, so my vote actually counts for something in the scheme of things, I'll not bother thanks all the same.

Sorry for the rant.


No worries. I live in a constituency which is keenly fought over although the Lib-Dems have won it for a while. Although after Mike Hancock's schenanigans both nationally and locally (he was also a ward councillor) UKIP made big in roads at the last council elections, Indeed his wife was one of my ward councillors and lost her seat by a majority of 18.

I voted for some random local issue party this time round who got just 21 votes, so on this occasion, as Councillor Jacqui Hancock was utterly useless it wasn't a wasted voteSmile



www.twitter.com/splodgey
www.facebook.com/paulsplodgeproctor


wishmaster3211
First Team Star


Aug 17, 2014, 5:53 PM

Posts: 2481
Location: A small town in Monmouthshire
Team(s): Calne Town, Darlington, Rosenborg, Sussex CCC, Huddersfield RL

Post #23 of 24 (1852 views)
Shortcut
Re: [splodge] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

Agree with both your above posts, in fact you are truly exercising your democratic duty. The most dangerous thing anyone can do in a Democracy is vote for something they don't believe in.

World of difference between an MP who is elected to serve and represent their community (not that most of them do, most serve themselves first an their Party second) and a footballer.



"Run For the Hills Before They Burn"

Checkout my Facebook page "Proper Football Grounds"

facebook.com/paul.fergusson


pitch 63
First Team Star

Aug 17, 2014, 6:58 PM

Posts: 2110
Location:
Team(s):

Post #24 of 24 (1837 views)
Shortcut
Re: [wishmaster3211] General Election Hoppers Opinion Poll [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately

I had an invite from my local MP ten days ago to attend a function. I was not interested but read the whole lengthy e-mail and got to the bottom where it was 200 to attend the function!!! Until then I had assumed it was free.

How he thought I would be interested. I haven't the foggiest - I have never voted for him and never attended any of his party's meetings, etc. Neither have I ever informed anyone who I have voted for or supported in the past. Then how the hell did he get my e-mail address. I can only guess that someone I know passed it on.

 
 


free hit counters

Search for (options) HOSTED BY SUMMIT SOCCER v.1.2.3