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windydcfc
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The EMCL constitution has now been confirmed for this season:

1) Anstey Nomads
2) Arnold Town
3) Ashby Ivanhoe
4) Aylestone Park
5) Bardon Hill
6) Barrow Town
7) Blaby & Whetstone Athletic
8) Borrowash Victoria
9) Ellistown & Ibstock United
10) Gedling Miners Welfare
11) Graham Street Prims
12) Greenwood Meadows
13) Holbrook Sports
14) Holwell Sports
15) Kimberley Miners Welfare
16) Radcliffe Olympic
17) Radford
18) South Normaton Athletic
19) St Andrews
20) Stapenhill
21) Sutton Town AFC



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


robhornby
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Jun 25, 2014, 10:24 PM

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Here is a message from the Graham St Prims FC Twitter

EMCL will operate with 20 teams next year as Sutton Town have resigned from the league



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windydcfc
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Jun 26, 2014, 6:54 AM

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The EMCL constitution has now been confirmed for this season:

1) Anstey Nomads
2) Arnold Town
3) Ashby Ivanhoe
4) Aylestone Park
5) Bardon Hill
6) Barrow Town
7) Blaby & Whetstone Athletic
8) Borrowash Victoria
9) Ellistown & Ibstock United
10) Gedling Miners Welfare
11) Graham Street Prims
12) Greenwood Meadows
13) Holbrook Sports
14) Holwell Sports
15) Kimberley Miners Welfare
16) Radcliffe Olympic
17) Radford
18) South Normaton Athletic
19) St Andrews
20) Stapenhill


Sutton Town do appear to have resigned, quite a big club that keeps folding, I wonder what the problem is with them. The Full-Time website has deleted them, so a nice round number now.



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


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According to my man in Notts it was to do with ground grading. The changing rooms block is half finished and they've run out of money to complete it.



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Sarumio
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According to my man in Notts it was to do with ground grading. The changing rooms block is half finished and they've run out of money to complete it.


So are Sutton Town folding again - or will they be accepted into the Central Midlands League or Nottinghamshire Senior League?

Why was this ground grading problem not picked up earlier?


kirby knitters
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Jun 26, 2014, 9:46 AM

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According to my man in Notts it was to do with ground grading. The changing rooms block is half finished and they've run out of money to complete it.


So are Sutton Town folding again - or will they be accepted into the Central Midlands League or Nottinghamshire Senior League?

Why was this ground grading problem not picked up earlier?

If they are folding then there is more to it than the ground but if it is then yes this should have been picked up earlier!


Rog Dodge
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Jun 26, 2014, 11:02 AM

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I undestand that ground tenure was also involved in the decision to tender their resignation from the League. Perhaps they were trying to resolve the matter and didn't want to announce it in case they succeeded.


Richard Rundle
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According to my man in Notts it was to do with ground grading. The changing rooms block is half finished and they've run out of money to complete it.


So are Sutton Town folding again - or will they be accepted into the Central Midlands League or Nottinghamshire Senior League?

Why was this ground grading problem not picked up earlier?


Probably because the last time they were graded the old changing room block met the requirements?


windydcfc
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According to my man in Notts it was to do with ground grading. The changing rooms block is half finished and they've run out of money to complete it.


So are Sutton Town folding again - or will they be accepted into the Central Midlands League or Nottinghamshire Senior League?

Why was this ground grading problem not picked up earlier?


Probably because the last time they were graded the old changing room block met the requirements?


Snipes Considering Future After League Resignation
The future of Sutton Town AFC is up in the air after the club resigned from the East Midland Counties League last night.

The drastic move came with the club unable to come to a suitable agreement over a lease at home ground The Fieldings that would enable them to get promoted in the future, which is a league requirement.
A club spokesman said: "Due to the fact that Mansfield Hosiery Mills were unable to give an acceptable agreement to Sutton Town AFC to comply with league and FA requirements on tenure of the ground to compete at Step 6 of the pyramid, Sutton Town have had no alternative but to resign from the East Midland Counties League."
Manager Dean Short resigned at the end of last season in May.
The club now have the option of trying to join another league which would allow them to continue at The Fieldings, but the problem would remain that the Snipes would not be eligible for promotion under the terms of their current lease.



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


rainworthgord
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Jul 4, 2014, 6:56 PM

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I believe the ground owners Mansfield Hosiery Mills Sports Club will be operating their own club this season, I hear in the Midland Amateur Alliance. It seems to me that their fixtures will take precedence, and this will not be in accordance with the Pyramid rules where the fixtures of the higher placed ground sharing club has the priority. Consequently Sutton could not fulfil this condition.
I know some of the MHM committee from my working days, and it would not surprise me if they had said, 'our ground, our team, our precedence' and told Sutton to accept a lease on the ground on those terms or clear off. I hasten to add that this is pure speculation on my part but it does seem to fit the circumstances.


windydcfc
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Jul 4, 2014, 7:35 PM

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Any idea, what might happen to Sutton Town for this season?



Non League Projection - 2020/21: https://docs.google.com/...UTgVhKYTo/edit#gid=0
Step 1: https://www.google.com/....119447550000018&z=7
Step 2: https://www.google.com/...677250654298405&z=15
Step 3: https://www.google.com/...358611350589399&z=16
Step 4: https://www.google.com/...536616305542566&z=16
Step 5: https://www.google.com/...399355140531952&z=16
Step 6: https://www.google.com/...1556307438963813&z=9


Sarumio
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I believe the ground owners Mansfield Hosiery Mills Sports Club will be operating their own club this season, I hear in the Midland Amateur Alliance. It seems to me that their fixtures will take precedence, and this will not be in accordance with the Pyramid rules where the fixtures of the higher placed ground sharing club has the priority. Consequently Sutton could not fulfil this condition.
I know some of the MHM committee from my working days, and it would not surprise me if they had said, 'our ground, our team, our precedence' and told Sutton to accept a lease on the ground on those terms or clear off. I hasten to add that this is pure speculation on my part but it does seem to fit the circumstances.


But Mansfield Hosiery Mills already have a team in the Midland Amateur Alliance though - they finished 9th in the Premier Division last season!


rainworthgord
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Jul 4, 2014, 8:59 PM

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To Sarumio, now you mention it yes they did, but I don't know whether they used the main MHM ground, and if they did the terms of Sutton's lease will have protected them. With the lease up for renewal the MHM Sports Club will probably have changed the terms in favour of their own club. Again let me stress that I am putting two and two together and may be making five, but the probability is that I'm not far wide of the mark. Changes were certainly made which Sutton found unacceptable.
The ironic thing is that if I had not retired from the local rag I would almost certainly have been covering this story.

I don't know whether the Snipes have applied to any other league. There was nothing in the press report to say either way. But their manager last season is now our assistant boss.


nico
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Jul 4, 2014, 11:26 PM

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I don't know whether the Snipes have applied to any other league. There was nothing in the press report to say either way.


Hopefully they'll resurface in the Notts Senior League top division. Full-Time only shows 17 teams in the Senior Division but Kirton tweeted "Looks like 18 teams in the Senior this year, 18 confirmed for Div 1 and 15 for Div 2" so, fingers crossed, Sutton are the 18th team. Would be a shame to see them fold again.



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Matty
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Jul 5, 2014, 9:34 AM

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I don't know if this has been considered but could n't Sutton use Blackwell MW's ground which I don't think hosts senior football or any Saturday football since they sadly folded a couple of years ago?
Yes it's a different (betterTongue) county but only 5 mins down the road.
Still listed in Vase draw at the mo as well.
I could see Sutton actually sustaining a Northern Premier side (potential wise) but they always seem to be dogged by problems of one sort or the other


nico
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I think Sutton Town's problems can be traced all the way back to 1977 when the owners of the Priestsic Road Football Ground forced them off and sold it for a supermarket (ASDA) development. Frown





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Owd Rover
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Jul 5, 2014, 3:34 PM

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Anstey Nomads EMCL LE7 7BP
Arnold Town EMCL NG5 8PS
Ashby Ivanhoe LSL P LE65 1TS
Aylestone Park EMCL LE2 6TG
Bardon Hill EMCL LE67 4BS
Barrow Town EMCL LE12 8XJ
Blaby & Whetstone Athletic EMCL LE8 6EW
Borrowash Victoria EMCL DE21 7PH
Ellistown & Ibstock United EMCL LE67 1GD
Gedling Miners Welfare EMCL NG3 5RH
Graham Street Prims EMCL DE21 7PH
Greenwood Meadows EMCL NG7 2SA
Holbrook Sports EMCL DE56 0TG
Holwell Sports EMCL LE14 3RD
Kimberley Miners Welfare Notts NG16 2NB
Radcliffe Olympic EMCL NG12 2AN
Radford EMCL NG7 5EH
South Normanton Athletic CMLS DE55 2AD
St Andrews EMCL LE2 8LX
Stapenhill EMCL DE15 9NN


northstandexile
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Jul 6, 2014, 8:33 AM

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I think Sutton Town's problems can be traced all the way back to 1977 when the owners of the Priestsic Road Football Ground forced them off and sold it for a supermarket (ASDA) development. Frown



Them photos bring back some memories.


rainworthgord
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I think Sutton Town's problems can be traced all the way back to 1977 when the owners of the Priestsic Road Football Ground forced them off and sold it for a supermarket (ASDA) development. Frown



Them photos bring back some memories.


Not half! It's a shame the top picture was taken after the demolition of the gasworks behind the far end goal (the Gasworks End). The glass building in the distance in the second picture is the public library adjacent to the Idlewells Shopping Centre which shows how close the ground was to the town centre. Happy memories of the club which introduced me to the delights of following non-league. I remember one occasion when they were at home on the same day as Mansfield, just three miles away, and Sutton had the bigger gate of the two.


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Ancient Wolf
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Fixtures now on FA Full Time
League starts August 9th


kirby knitters
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Jul 9, 2014, 3:24 PM

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Fixtures now on FA Full Time
League starts August 9th

All the league need to do now is get the relevant forms sent out to the clubs so they can bring in players.


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All the league need to do now is get the relevant forms sent out to the clubs so they can bring in players.


Are the forms not downloadable from the League Web site?



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kirby knitters
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All the league need to do now is get the relevant forms sent out to the clubs so they can bring in players.


Are the forms not downloadable from the League Web site?

They were not last Saturday.


purpleronnie
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Aug 17, 2014, 8:57 AM

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Any barrow fans on here?

They won 3 games all last season and finished bottom, this season have won 3 on the bounce? Another team paying at this level?

thanks.


Matty
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Barrowed a lot of money apparently - oh dear

some pay, some don't and some say they don't when they do - hope that anwsers your q.

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