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London Harrier
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In the 2003-04 season, Portsmouth made their debut in the Premier League. The same season Fleetwood Town were in the North West Counties League, at Level 9 (I think) of the Pyramid.

This season the two clubs play each other in League Two.

Has there been a bigger historical gulf between two sides now playing in the same division, in such a short space of time?

(for the purpose of this thread, phoenix clubs donít count)


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Wolves playing a league below Yeovil next season?


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Thinking about it, Stockport County v Brackley Town in Conference North must represent a serious swing in fortunes.


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Strangely enough i was looking at a Norwich City programme the other day from 2000 and Stockport were 6th in the Championship, just looking at Brackley's history that season they were in the Hellenic Premier.


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Strangely enough i was looking at a Norwich City programme the other day from 2000 and Stockport were 6th in the Championship, just looking at Brackley's history that season they were in the Hellenic Premier.


Indeed. It's surreal they are now in the same divison.


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In the 2003-04 season, Portsmouth made their debut in the Premier League. The same season Fleetwood Town were in the North West Counties League, at Level 9 (I think) of the Pyramid.

This season the two clubs play each other in League Two.

Has there been a bigger historical gulf between two sides now playing in the same division, in such a short space of time?

(for the purpose of this thread, phoenix clubs donít count)


Assuming you're using a ten year gap, then that has to be a good one.

Not sure whether there's ever been a bigger gap filled, but in terms of surprise value, then Manchester City v Macclesfield Town at level 3 a few years back has to be up there. The same question could be asked of both clubs: what the hell were they doing playing at the same level? In some ways, that's an even bigger surprise, since a few years earlier, no-one could have imagined Man City getting relegated, let alone playing at level 3, and Macclesfield were just an ordinary non-league side who might yo-yo up and down between the conference and NPL.


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In the 2003-04 season, Portsmouth made their debut in the Premier League. The same season Fleetwood Town were in the North West Counties League, at Level 9 (I think) of the Pyramid.

This season the two clubs play each other in League Two.

Has there been a bigger historical gulf between two sides now playing in the same division, in such a short space of time?

(for the purpose of this thread, phoenix clubs donít count)


Assuming you're using a ten year gap, then that has to be a good one.

Not sure whether there's ever been a bigger gap filled, but in terms of surprise value, then Manchester City v Macclesfield Town at level 3 a few years back has to be up there. The same question could be asked of both clubs: what the hell were they doing playing at the same level? In some ways, that's an even bigger surprise, since a few years earlier, no-one could have imagined Man City getting relegated, let alone playing at level 3, and Macclesfield were just an ordinary non-league side who might yo-yo up and down between the conference and NPL.


The ten year gap in this case was more coincidence than anything else. That said, there needs to be a timespan limit of some sorts, otherwise people will quote clubs who have changed leagues of 50 or 60 year periods, which kind of misses the point - or at least the novelty - of the thread.

I imagine that Luton Town v Braintree would be another interesting one.

1991-92 - Luton in Divsion 1 (now the Premier League)
1991-92 - Braintree in Southern League Eastern Division, having been promoted from the Eastern Counties League.


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In the 2003-04 season, Portsmouth made their debut in the Premier League. The same season Fleetwood Town were in the North West Counties League, at Level 9 (I think) of the Pyramid.

This season the two clubs play each other in League Two.

Has there been a bigger historical gulf between two sides now playing in the same division, in such a short space of time?

(for the purpose of this thread, phoenix clubs donít count)


Fleetwood Town and Wimbledon both played at Level 8 2003-04.


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Anyone thought of what clubs could drop and rise over the next few years who played last year or will play this year in the same leagues?

I think Bury are a likely candidate to drop and I'm sure one or two of the big clubs in League 1 (Coventry City, Sheffield United, Bristol City, Wolves, Bradford City, MK Dons, Portsmouth) this or last year will be doing well in the premier league in 10 years time while some of their competitors will be struggling in the conference or lower.


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Re the question of comparisons - that's easy.

Just divide the divisional gap by number of seasons it took to establish -

thus Pompey/Fleetwood = 8 divisions (level9-level1)/ 10 seasons (2003/04 to 2013/14) = 0.800

The larger the number derived on the right, the greater the difference.



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