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Matty
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Has anyone tried to form a non sectarion club to represent these cities or is that a daft sassenach question.

In the womens game it seems to have worked to an extent


Northumbrian
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May 23, 2013, 11:21 AM

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Yes - Partick Thistle in 1876.


jon b
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Ah, the Jags. Known to Billy Connolly as Partick Thistle Nil.


Leyther_Matt
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May 23, 2013, 2:06 PM

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Has anyone tried to form a non sectarion club to represent these cities or is that a daft sassenach question.

In the womens game it seems to have worked to an extent

Hibs have been 'non-sectarian' since 1892, so I'm not sure what your point is?

"In a major departure from the old set up these men decided that a new Hibernian would exist for the benefit of the whole community of Edinburgh and Leith and not, as in the past, solely for the Catholics. The new Club would be run as a business and the team would be open to any player, regardless of religious background as it would be to anyone who wanted to support it."


Mishi
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May 23, 2013, 3:49 PM

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But, in practice, has it actually worked like that? I know nothing about Edinburgh football, but like many I assumed that Herts & Hibs were a 'poor mans version' of Rangers & Celtic.

Are the support bases based on sectarian/relgious line between the Edinbugh big two, regardless of players faiths?



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Leyther_Matt
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But, in practice, has it actually worked like that? I know nothing about Edinburgh football, but like many I assumed that Herts & Hibs were a 'poor mans version' of Rangers & Celtic.

Are the support bases based on sectarian/relgious line between the Edinbugh big two, regardless of players faiths?

I would saw the support bases are drawn almost entirely on geographical lines. This topic crops up on Hibs forums from time to time, largely because of inaccurate press reports (the one where the Celtic CEO said "Hibs are just as bad" after the poppy 'protest' springs to mind), and religion quite simply isn't even on the radar. Thankfully it seems that the vast, vast majority are happy to leave all that nonsense to the bigot brothers in the west.


IAN S
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Also known for the unfurling of the "flag" and probably one of the best songs in football, although can't repeat it here, I'd probably be banned!!



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Also known for the unfurling of the "flag" and probably one of the best songs in football, although can't repeat it here, I'd probably be banned!!


Go on Mr Blunt.



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wishmaster3211
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In reality the Glasgow two are the only two Sectarian Clubs. When I lived in Edinburgh in the 80s Rangers were still signing only non-Catholics. Hard to believe I know. Elsewhere, on my second visit to Hibs someone unfurled a tricolour with "IRA" on it. They were set upon and dealt with before Stewards/Police got there, amidst a chorus of boo's. That says it all really....

Other Clubs had religious origins such as the two Dundee ones. Probably also exists in non-league but I don't know anything about that, doubtless someone else does.

If religion is a factor now its co-incidental. Of course certain places and certain areas within the cities are predominantly one or the other Religion but it isn't the reason people support that Club. Hibs' decision to go non-sectarian was actually seen as quite brave and forward thinking at the time.



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(This post was edited by wishmaster3211 on May 23, 2013, 8:39 PM)


prorege
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But, in practice, has it actually worked like that? I know nothing about Edinburgh football, but like many I assumed that Herts & Hibs were a 'poor mans version' of Rangers & Celtic.

Are the support bases based on sectarian/relgious line between the Edinbugh big two, regardless of players faiths?



Support is largely geographical. Hearts support marginally more sectarian but it's not a big issue. A good friend of mine was a Church of Scotland Minister in Craigentinny, near Easter Road. She couldn't have have Kirk Session meetings on nights when Hibs were playing because all the Elders were Hibs season ticket holders.


(This post was edited by prorege on May 25, 2013, 7:33 PM)

 
 


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