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SWP-Phil First Team Star Jul 1, 2012, 6:04 PM Posts: 1541 Location: Exeter Team(s): Various Post #26 of 32 (994 views) Shortcut Re: [John Treleven] FA Competition Applicants 2012-13 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately I have had letters confirming that Bovey Tracey, Cullompton Rangers and St Blazey have all failed to get into the FA Cup because of last seasons points per game ratios. The best of those was Cullompton with 39 points from 38 games. Of the sides I can therefore presume have been accepted the lowest was Tavistock with 53 points from 38 games - not sure though exactly where the line is nationally as a big difference between 39 points and 53 points Phil H _______________________________________________ For all the News & Views on the South West Peninsula League go to : www.swpleague.co.uk

John Treleven Man City Transfer Target! Jul 1, 2012, 6:54 PM Posts: 7777 Location: Jersey Team(s): Post #27 of 32 (970 views) Shortcut Re: [SWP-Phil] FA Competition Applicants 2012-13 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately "The F.A.Cup has a full house down to step 5 except for 5 step 5 sides." After that a correction - I misread my notes re step 6 - ALL BUT 54 (i.e. 192) of the 246 step 6 sides have applied plus 2 from step 7 and a further 2 "oddment" entries. Therefore I assume the last acceptances will be taken from these 196 applicants. (see below) Once the acceptances are announced on Friday (6th July) you can go to each of the divisions and work out the lowest placed acceptance and the highest placed refusal. Then work out the points ratio for each of these 30 or so teams and that should give you the dividing point between acceptances and refusals. The last four below are the two step 7 and two "oddment" entries. I have used Phil's example for the S.W.Peninsula League although I make Torpoint his lowest acceptance, rather than Tavistock, unless some other criteria has already come in to play. Then to use that as a base I have filled in the league points for the Western League section. From the S.W.P guideline the top 6 listed in the W.L. will have been accepted (as they have better points ratios than Torpoint) and the bottom 3 will have been rejected (as they have worse points ratios than Cullompton). The 6 in the middle (Welton - Shepton Mallet) are as yet unknown but when they are it will give a much better idea of where the dividing line came. Combined Counties Div 1 Bedfont Sports Cobham Hartley Wintney Staines Lammas Warlingham Westfield East Midlands Counties Div 1 Anstey Nomads Bardon Hill Sports Barrow Town Blaby & Whetstone Athletic Blackwell Miners Welfare Borrowash Victoria Ellistown Gedling Miners Welfare Graham St. Prims Greenwood Meadows Heanor Town Holbrook Sports Holwell Sports Ibstock United Oadby Town Radcliffe Olympic Radford St. Andrews (Leics) Thurnby Nirvana Eastern Counties Div 1 Brightlingsea Regent Debenham L.C. Fakenham Town Godmanchester Rovers Halstead Town Ipswich Wanderers Long Melford March Town United Swaffham Town Team Bury Thetford Town Whitton United Hellenic 1 East Milton United Newbury Hellenic 1 West Carterton Clanfield 85 Lydney Town Old Woodstock Town Winterbourne United Wootton Bassett Town Kent Invicta Prem Erith & Dartford Town Midland Combination Prem Bartley Green Bloxwich United Bolehall Swifts Brocton Cadbury Athletic Castle Vale Castle Vale J.K.S. Continental Star Earlswood Town Nuneaton Griff Pelsall Villa Pilkington XXX Racing Club, Warwick Southam United Walsall Wood North West Counties Div 1 Abbey Hey Ashton Town Atherton Collieries Chadderton Cheadle Town Daisy Hill Eccleshall Formby Holker Old Boys Irlam Leek C.S. Old Boys Norton United Oldham Boro Wigan Robin Park Northern Div 2 Birtley Town Brandon United Chester-Le-Street Town Crook Town Darlington Railway Athletic Esh Winning Gillford Park Hebburn Town Horden Colliery Welfare Morpeth Town North Shields Northallerton Town Ryton & Crawcrook Albion Seaham Red Star Thornaby Washington West Allotment Celtic Whitehaven Northern Counties East Div 1 A.F.C. Emley Albion Sports Appleby Frodingham Bottesford Town Dinnington Town Eccleshill United Glasshoughton Welfare Grimsby Borough Hallam Hemsworth Miners Welfare Louth Town Pontefract Collieries Rossington Main Shirebrook Town Teversal Yorkshire Amateur South West Peninsula Prem (38 matches) ACCEPTED 1. 108 Bodmin Town 2. 89 Buckland Athletic 3. 78 Falmouth Town 4. 77 Saltash United 5. 72 Launceston 6. 70 Plymouth Parkway 7. 68 Liskeard Athletic 10. 53 Tavistock 12. 51 Torpoint Athletic (1.3421 points per game) REFUSED 15. 39 Cullompton Rangers (1.0253 points per game) 16. 37 Bovey Tracey 18. 26 St. Blazey Spartan South Midlands Div 1 Ampthill Town Cockfosters Cranfield United Crawley Green Hoddesdon Town Kings Langley Langford London Colney London Lions Welwyn Garden City Wodson Park Sussex County Div 2 East Preston Hailsham Town Littlehampton Town Mile Oak Oakwood Steyning Town Wick United Counties Div 1 Bugbrooke St. Michaels Harborough Town Huntingdon Town Raunds Town Rothwell Corinthians Rushden & Higham United Wellingborough Whitworths Wessex Div 1 A.F.C. Portchester Amesbury Town Brockenhurst Cowes Sports East Cowes Victoria Athletic Fleet Spurs Petersfield Town Pewsey Vale Ringwood Town Team Solent Verwood Town Whitchurch United West Midlands Prem A.F.C. Wulfrunians Bewdley Town Black Country Rangers Cradley Town Dudley Town Dudley Sports Goodrich Gornal Athletic Lye Town Malvern Town Pegasus Juniors Shawbury United Shifnal Town Sporting Khalsa Stafford Town Wednesfield Wellington Wolverhampton Casuals Wolverhampton S.C. Western Div 1 (36 matches) PROBABLY ACCEPTED 1. 84 Cadbury Heath 2. 78 Melksham Town 3. 72 Gillingham Town 4. 70 Calne Town 5. 58 Bradford Town 6. 52 Chard Town NOT YET KNOWN 7. 49 Welton Rovers 9. 48 Almondsbury U.W.E. 10. 46 Hengrove Athletic 14. 42 Elmore 15. 39 Shrewton United 16. 37 Shepton Mallet PROBABLY REFUSED 17. 35 Westbury United 18. 32 Wellington 19. 23 Devizes Town Leicestershire Senior Prem Lutterworth Athletic Manchester Prem West Didsbury & Chorlton Massey League Royal Engineers Welsh Premier The New Saints (This post was edited by John Treleven on Jul 1, 2012, 8:09 PM)

richiejenn First Team Regular Jul 1, 2012, 6:56 PM Posts: 1305 Location: Kent Team(s): Crystal Palace, Carshalton Ath Post #28 of 32 (968 views) Shortcut Re: [John Treleven] FA Competition Applicants 2012-13 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately Does anyone know what the max number of clubs COULD be accepted assuming the number of rounds remains the same and exemptions also remain. Also if the only exemption are league clubs in first and third rd proper? Games 2012-13: 37 New Grounds 2012-13: 33 Total Grounds : 525 http://archibaldatcost.blogspot.co.uk/

leohoenig Administrator Jul 1, 2012, 8:35 PM Posts: 7564 Location: Outer Cheltenhamshire Team(s): Cheltenham Town Post #29 of 32 (923 views) Shortcut Re: [richiejenn] FA Competition Applicants 2012-13 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately 3rd round, 44 exemptions and 20 clubs from 2nd round 2nd round, 20 matches, 40 teams 1st round, 40 matches, 80 teams, 48 exempt and 32 qualifyers 4q round. 32 matches, 64 teams, 24 (Conference Prem) exempt plus 40 3Q Round. 40 matches, 80 teams 2Q Round. 80 matches, 160 teams, 44 (Conference N/S) exempt plus 116 1Q Round. 116 matches, 232 teams, 66 (Premier Divisions) exempt plus 166 Prelim. 166 matches, 332 teams 132 (Step 4 teams) exempt plus 200 Extra Prelim - Maximum of 200 matches. Which if I have added it up correctly is 758 teams maximum. Fat AND Pompous. I was going to list all my grounds for the season, but the moderator said five lines only. Now blogging at www.leohoenig.com

Gareth Youth Team Sub Jul 2, 2012, 4:20 PM Posts: 126 Location: Team(s): Corby Town Post #30 of 32 (787 views) Shortcut Re: [leohoenig] FA Competition Applicants 2012-13 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately If they made the 4th Qualifying Round all in (for non-league) and moved the exemptions down a round, they could have 1000+ entries and not have to exclude anyone! 4q Round. 32 matches, 64 teams 3q Round. 128 teams, 24 (Conference Prem) exempt plus 104 2q Round. 208 teams, 44 (Conference N/S) exempt plus 164 1q Round. 328 teams, 66 (Premier Divisions) exempt plus 262 Prelim. 524 teams, 132 (step 4 teams) exempt plus 392 Extra Prelim Up to 784 teams By my rough calculations, this would cater for up 1142 teams in total. One extra match for the Conference Premier sides. All clubs with the correct facilities could enter, even if they are not in the NLS. Another radical idea would be to scrap the two Preliminary Rounds and just have six Qualifying Rounds.

red and white Ballboy/girl Jul 2, 2012, 5:52 PM Posts: 5 Location: isle of wight Team(s): Post #31 of 32 (764 views) Shortcut Re: [John Treleven] FA Competition Applicants 2012-13 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately Team Solent from Wessex Division one didnt enter the Vase last year so i assume they wont be accepted.

richiejenn First Team Regular Jul 2, 2012, 6:05 PM Posts: 1305 Location: Kent Team(s): Crystal Palace, Carshalton Ath Post #32 of 32 (757 views) Shortcut Re: [Gareth] FA Competition Applicants 2012-13 [In reply to] Can't Post or Reply Privately Thanks guys. Original question and supplementary answered. Who says this forum isn't the best... Games 2012-13: 37 New Grounds 2012-13: 33 Total Grounds : 525 http://archibaldatcost.blogspot.co.uk/

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