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Workington FC
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Jun 18, 2012, 1:19 PM

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I'm currently trying to visit the former East German Clubs who played in the last season of the East German Oberliga. I know there have been lots of clubs going out of business, clubs reforming etc over the years so it's sometimes difficult to choose the successors to the former clubs.

On Saturday I went to BSG Chemie Leipzig v RB II. The difficulty is which club is the successor to Saschen Leipzig? From what I can understand, Chemie, were formed a couple of seasons ago by disgruntled Saschen supporters and played in the Leipzig Stadt league 3. When Saschen closed down last year it appears they "replaced" Blau Weiss Leipzig in the Saschen Liga this season.

Subsequently SG Leipzig Leutzsch appeared and claim to the the successor to Saschen. It appears that they replaced Saschen's reserve's in the Saschen Liga and are a newly formed club

Both clubs play at the Alfred Kunze stadium and it looks like SG have more profile at the ground despite Chemie having much larger crowds.

I'm not sure what the relationship is between the clubs but has Saschen's support split or have the jumped ship to Red Bull.

Any thoughts?

Saturday 16th June 2012
BSG Chemie Leipzig 0 RB II Leipzig 2
Att: approx 800
Admission - got a free ticket from Leutzsch resident when walking to the ground
Programme - 1 euro

I don't know what is happening with the S Bahn system in Leipzig so I took a number 7 tram from the railway station to the Leutzsch station. From here it's a 10 minute walk. I was stopped on the way by a friendly old lady who said "fussball" and offered me two free seating tickets. It looks like Chemie had done a leaflet drop to the local residents.

There are no bars or shops nearby and no clubhouse available for Chemie.

Programmes were available from outside the ground. It's a very unusual issue. 16 pages, A5 in size but the bottom two corners are cut off to make a V shape. In the singing end a fanzine was distributed but unfortunately I didnt get a copy.

The stadium is fantastic. Very much olde worlde with it's brick and wooden stand, large two level terrace behind one of the goals and feeling of slight negelct. The ground does not have floodlights and would probably be closed down by ground graders in this country.

Despite the result there was a very good atmosphere from the Chemie fans and lots of banners etc on display. Red Bull brought no supporters - pathetic.

There is a small club shop inside the ground with various souvenirs on sale.

On a gloriously sunny day, RB wrapped the game up in the first half with two goals and were also helped by a very harsh sending off of a Chemie player.

A nice touch at the end of the game. The Chemie players asked for the security gates to be opened and walked into the crowd on the terrace and shook everyone's hand. I've never seen that before.

I'd highly recommend a visit to Leipzig. There are a lot of clubs nearby and the flights with Ryanair are very reasonable. I was lucky to get the flight and a four star hotel for under £100.



Former East German Clubs Visted:
Carl Zeiss Jena, Hallescher, Hansa Rostock, Dynamo Dresden, Chemnitzer FC, Energie Cottbus, FSV Zwickau, Dynamo Berlin, 1.FC Magdeburg, 1.FC Union Berlin, Lokomotive Leipzig, BSG Chemie Leipzig, Lichtenburg 47, Rot Weiss Erfurt, Viktoria Frankfurt, SV Babelsburg, Sparta Lichtenburg, Stahl Brandenburg, Stahl Eisenhuttenstadt, Dresdener SC

(This post was edited by Workington FC on Jun 18, 2012, 6:24 PM)


rivington
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Jun 18, 2012, 6:52 PM

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Although previously posted when I visited Leipzig earlier this year for those interested in teams in and around Leipzig try the link below.

http://www.leipziger-fussball.de/


Dave.
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Jul 2, 2012, 11:05 AM

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Location: Leipzig
Team(s): Port Vale, Union Berlin

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BSG Chemie Leipzig were formed in 2008 by fans of FC Sachsen (known as BSG Chemie Leipzig for the majority of its existence). They felt that the club were going in the wrong direction in terms of the people running it and were losing touch with the rest of the fanbase (partly for political reasons).

As I said, the main body of "active" fans, predominantly consisting of the Diablos ultra group, moved away to form their own club to ensure that the famous name BSG Chemie Leipzig remained in the hands of the true fans and not some unscrupulous businessman. After all, BSG Chemie are one of the most famous ex-DDR clubs and their championship-winning 1964 season is extremely well-known in Germany. They started right down in the 11th tier or something, but still drew impressive crowds for that level. They played at the Willi-Kühn Sportpark at this point I think.

FC Sachsen continued in the 4th and then the 5th tiers before finally going bust at the end of the 2011 season. BSG Chemie Leipzig were interested in taking over FC Sachsen's league registration in the 5th tier and therefore also the Alfred-Kunze-Sportpark (the spiritual home of the club). But then a few former directors threw a spanner in the works by founding SG Leipzig-Leutzsch.

SG Leipzig-Leutzsch took over FC Sachsen Leipzig II's league registration in the 6th tier Sachsenliga whilst BSG Chemie Leipzig, seeing that their plans to move back in to the AKS as sole tenants had been scuppered, merged with Blau-Weiß Leipzig and became co-tenants at the AKS. Since then they have both lived rather strange existences.

SGLL fans are mainly former fans of FC Sachsen (post-split) while BSG Chemie Leipzig mainly attracts youngsters from other parts of the city because of the political orientation of the ultras (not explicitly left-wing in a St Pauli sense, but not tolerant of any right-wing stuff whatsoever). There are a couple of well-known NPD supporters that go to SGLL, including a guy called Thomas Gerlach. I've also heard anti-semitic and right-wing abuse at FC Sachsen/SGLL in the past. Not a very nice club at all. But then, as a Chemie-supporting friend of mine said, the very existence of SGLL makes BSG Chemie Leipzig a much nicer place to watch football - simply because all of the idiots go to SGLL instead.

Quite a few people are calling for the clubs to be reunited; but I'm 99% sure that this will never happen.


Dave.
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Jul 2, 2012, 11:10 AM

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Location: Leipzig
Team(s): Port Vale, Union Berlin

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Also, SGLL fans accuse BSG supporters of turning their back on FC Sachsen Leipzig in the latter's time of need - something I don't really understand.

The main body of BSG support lives in the alternative district of Connewitz/Südvorstadt - so quite a way of their spiritual "home". Although I can imagine many of the ultras grew up in Leutzsch before moving somewhere where there was a bit more going on. This is also a source of resentment between the two.

Here are some pictures I took vs. SSV Markranstädt a few weeks back if anyone's interested http://www.flickr.com/photos/undniemalsvergessen/sets/72157629881557706/

 
 


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