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wazzafan
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May 19, 2012, 12:26 PM

Posts: 299
Location: The City of Thelwall
Team(s): Warrington Town

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Would also depend on whether or not Bognor Regis Town enter the Southern Premier, moving Cambridge City to the Isthmian. In which case all bank holiday games geographically would make sense:

Bideford v Weymouth
Frome v Chippenham
Bashley v AFC Totton
Gosport v Bognor Regis
Stourbridge v Redditch
Barwell v Bedworth
Leamington v Banbury
St. Neots v Bedford
Arlesey v Hitchin
St. Albans v Hemel Hempstead
Chesham v Maidenhead



"2007/08 saw Warrington Town make big plans for the future with ambitions to be in the Football League within 5 years."

Five years later, and were still in the Evo-Stik North.

Non League Pyramid 2013/14: http://tinyurl.com/bzjowkf


wazzafan
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May 19, 2012, 12:59 PM

Posts: 299
Location: The City of Thelwall
Team(s): Warrington Town

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Also, with the FA allocations looming, here is my updated spreadsheet, as well as maps covering steps 1-5:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApThHwWP3onIdGdDODJaME1GWDBJYk5laFNqd19Td0E#gid=0

Step 1: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212169161359117888513.0004beb0f11e0e8159e9b&msa=0
Step 2: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212169161359117888513.0004beb16466985557613&msa=0
Step 3: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212169161359117888513.0004bed670cee48b04c75&msa=0&ll=52.86913,-1.230469&spn=7.523262,21.643066
Step 4: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212169161359117888513.0004befb12c35419c04b5&msa=0
Step 5: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212169161359117888513.0004b9ed239e20f64a1d1&msa=0



"2007/08 saw Warrington Town make big plans for the future with ambitions to be in the Football League within 5 years."

Five years later, and were still in the Evo-Stik North.

Non League Pyramid 2013/14: http://tinyurl.com/bzjowkf


Lee Farmie
Youth Team Regular


May 19, 2012, 3:26 PM

Posts: 179
Location: Caterham
Team(s): Whyteleafe

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Perhaps not the most significant correction but you still have Epsom & Ewell playing in Merstham. I believe they're moving to Chipstead for next season.


PaulC
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May 19, 2012, 3:58 PM

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On the Step 2 map Droylsden is missing and Chorley should be replaced by Bradford PA


wazzafan
Youth Team Star


May 19, 2012, 4:46 PM

Posts: 299
Location: The City of Thelwall
Team(s): Warrington Town

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Cheers for the errors... now updated.



"2007/08 saw Warrington Town make big plans for the future with ambitions to be in the Football League within 5 years."

Five years later, and were still in the Evo-Stik North.

Non League Pyramid 2013/14: http://tinyurl.com/bzjowkf


blackdouglas
First Team Star


May 20, 2012, 8:37 PM

Posts: 2351
Location: Northwood, Middlesex
Team(s): See signature for clubs & 2013/14 projection links

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Now the season's over and all the play-offs are complete here's one final set of maps of how I feel the divisions should be set out.

Spread sheet can be found in my signature these days

Step 1


Step 2


Step 3


Step 4


Spread sheet can be found in my signature these days



Northwood, Threave Rovers, Arsenal, Watford, Rochdale, Rangers (the real ones, NOT qpr), queen of the south and a few others.

Pyramid Allocations for the 2013/14 season as published by the FA on May 17th http://bit.ly/18QoFvt
How I would've allocated the clubs for 2013/14 http://bit.ly/OS8GoJ


HarryC
First Team Sub

May 23, 2012, 10:06 AM

Posts: 997
Location: Fleet
Team(s): Fleet, Aldershot, Chelsea

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Another revision to come as Bedfont Town have withdrawm from Southern League, may not even run a senior team in 2012-3 season


blackdouglas
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May 23, 2012, 10:52 AM

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Location: Northwood, Middlesex
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Another revision to come as Bedfont Town have withdrawn from Southern League, may not even run a senior team in 2012-3 season
Spreadsheets altered to reflect the Bedfont Town announcement and the consensus among us that Ware are next in line for the spot created by BT's withdrawal.



Northwood, Threave Rovers, Arsenal, Watford, Rochdale, Rangers (the real ones, NOT qpr), queen of the south and a few others.

Pyramid Allocations for the 2013/14 season as published by the FA on May 17th http://bit.ly/18QoFvt
How I would've allocated the clubs for 2013/14 http://bit.ly/OS8GoJ


HarryC
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May 23, 2012, 8:41 PM

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Another change in the offering (from step 4 topic) advises that Kettering are being demoted from Conference to Southern League.


blackdouglas
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May 23, 2012, 8:54 PM

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Another change in the offering (from step 4 topic) advises that Kettering are being demoted from Conference to Southern League.
Altered now to reflect the Kettering Town hypothesis. Unfortunately for Ladderman this does now ensure both B.Stortford & Oxford City will be Conference North now.



Northwood, Threave Rovers, Arsenal, Watford, Rochdale, Rangers (the real ones, NOT qpr), queen of the south and a few others.

Pyramid Allocations for the 2013/14 season as published by the FA on May 17th http://bit.ly/18QoFvt
How I would've allocated the clubs for 2013/14 http://bit.ly/OS8GoJ


PaulC
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May 23, 2012, 9:06 PM

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Another change in the offering (from step 4 topic) advises that Kettering are being demoted from Conference to Southern League.
Altered now to reflect the Kettering Town hypothesis. Unfortunately for Ladderman this does now ensure both B.Stortford & Oxford City will be Conference North now.
Ladderman just needs to be patient. If he waits long enough the majority of Conference North will probably come from the southern half of the country.


acmold
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May 24, 2012, 10:46 AM

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Another change in the offering (from step 4 topic) advises that Kettering are being demoted from Conference to Southern League.
Altered now to reflect the Kettering Town hypothesis. Unfortunately for Ladderman this does now ensure both B.Stortford & Oxford City will be Conference North now.
Ladderman just needs to be patient. If he waits long enough the majority of Conference North will probably come from the southern half of the country.

They may but would they be anywhere near Bishop Stortford, I wonder if Bath, Weston, Dorchester, Salisbury & Truro may be next in line to move north Smile



I'm adored in Augsburg


HarryC
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May 24, 2012, 12:53 PM

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Location: Fleet
Team(s): Fleet, Aldershot, Chelsea

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Latest on Kettering

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../0/football/18190475

They are having to apply to join Southern League, rather than an FA placed demotion, so what if they are not voted in? It is being suggested a 2 division drop for the proposed CVA and starting on minus 10 points. Will a two division drop be from Conference National where they last played or from Step 2 Conference Semi-National (North) that they were already relegated to?


chienmort
Reserve Team Regular


May 25, 2012, 2:47 PM

Posts: 663
Location: Poole
Team(s): Poole Town FC, Queens Park RANGERS.

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Latest on Kettering

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../0/football/18190475

They are having to apply to join Southern League, rather than an FA placed demotion, so what if they are not voted in? It is being suggested a 2 division drop for the proposed CVA and starting on minus 10 points. Will a two division drop be from Conference National where they last played or from Step 2 Conference Semi-National (North) that they were already relegated to?
They finished the season and were in a relegation place so should be relegated to SL Central.

When R&D were going to be re-located to the SL they were to be placed in to the SL Prem but there were not relegated on the field.



Poole Town FC - les couilles du chien


oftenscore6
Chelsea Transfer Target

May 25, 2012, 9:51 PM

Posts: 3321
Location: Huddersfield
Team(s): FCUM, MUFC, Altrincham, Hammarby, Hawthorn (AFL),Huddersfield Rams (UK AFL)

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Latest on Kettering

http://www.bbc.co.uk/.../0/football/18190475

They are having to apply to join Southern League, rather than an FA placed demotion, so what if they are not voted in? It is being suggested a 2 division drop for the proposed CVA and starting on minus 10 points. Will a two division drop be from Conference National where they last played or from Step 2 Conference Semi-National (North) that they were already relegated to?
They finished the season and were in a relegation place so should be relegated to SL Central.

When R&D were going to be re-located to the SL they were to be placed in to the SL Prem but there were not relegated on the field.
Under FA rules (section 14 of the FA handbook), if there's been an insolvency event, unless the creditors are paid in full (non-football creditors over no more than 3 years) by the AGM, a club will be relegated one step, in addition to any relegation from the current season. So being placed in SLP is the logical position.

Actually I have a possible reason why they resigned. As far as I can tell, they haven't actually entered administration or undergone another Insolvency event yet, just indicated an intention to do so. Perhaps I'm being altruistic but perhaps this is to avoid the chaos of late reprievals etc? Whenever they enter their first Insolvency Event, they'll be due a 10 point penalty also. However, if they agree a CVA after the AGM (unless paying in full as above), they would be relegated again next season whatever happens on the pitch....



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(This post was edited by oftenscore6 on May 25, 2012, 9:52 PM)

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