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Mishi
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I looking for suggestionss for grounds to photograph please.

Are there any non-league grounds in, or around, Bruges please?

Or stations to jump off at to do so on the train line between Brussels & Bruges?

I'm going to Bruges, for the day, on Monday 18th April, as I am in Belgium that weekend for the christening of my Belgian godson, & my booked Eurostar is on Monday evening, so I've decided to go to Bruges for the day on the Monday & was wondering if I could see any other stadiums apart from the main Club/Cercele Bruges one.

In case anyone wonders...Anderlecht on the Friday night (a 'tick' for me. Saturday is the christening, with UR Namur at home in the evening. & on the Sunday ES Bonnine v. US Emines in the local Namur regional leagues. (the latter two, sadly, being re-visits)



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Chris1963
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Just to be pedantic, It's actually known as 'Brugge' to the locals, as the signs on the railway station platforms will confirm. ('Bruges' is the French spelling but no-one in the town speaks French.) The title of the recent movie 'In Bruges' is simply another instance of this confusion.

Quite a few grounds in the area. There's Steenbrugge which is about 30 mins walk south of the station, nice traditional small ground. Also if you don't want to go all the way to Brugge you could get off at Aalter whcih has a good stand. Like Steenbrugge it is also a proper football ground although a bit more modern.


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Just to be pedantic, It's actually known as 'Brugge' to the locals, as the signs on the railway station platforms will confirm. ('Bruges' is the French spelling but no-one in the town speaks French.) The title of the recent movie 'In Bruges' is simply another instance of this confusion.

Quite a few grounds in the area. There's Steenbrugge which is about 30 mins walk south of the station, nice traditional small ground. Also if you don't want to go all the way to Brugge you could get off at Aalter whcih has a good stand. Like Steenbrugge it is also a proper football ground although a bit more modern.

I would guess that most people in Bruges actually speak French, albeit as a second language.
I think you will find Bruges is English for the city as well as French, as this is an English language website, the previous poster was correct.
Sorry for being pedantic!


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Just to be pedantic, It's actually known as 'Brugge' to the locals, as the signs on the railway station platforms will confirm. ('Bruges' is the French spelling but no-one in the town speaks French.) The title of the recent movie 'In Bruges' is simply another instance of this confusion.

Quite a few grounds in the area. There's Steenbrugge which is about 30 mins walk south of the station, nice traditional small ground. Also if you don't want to go all the way to Brugge you could get off at Aalter whcih has a good stand. Like Steenbrugge it is also a proper football ground although a bit more modern.

I would guess that most people in Bruges actually speak French, albeit as a second language.
I think you will find Bruges is English for the city as well as French, as this is an English language website, the previous poster was correct.
Sorry for being pedantic!


Exactly, or perhaps Chris now expects us refer to Belgie, Belgique or Belgien and not Belgium.

Do I need to write any future reports from said country in Nederlands, Francais or Deutsch ?


dottirofhod
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Also known as the Venice of the North. Oops sorry Venezia.



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mip
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Apr 1, 2011, 9:48 PM

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Just to be pedantic, It's actually known as 'Brugge' to the locals, as the signs on the railway station platforms will confirm. ('Bruges' is the French spelling but no-one in the town speaks French.) The title of the recent movie 'In Bruges' is simply another instance of this confusion.

Quite a few grounds in the area. There's Steenbrugge which is about 30 mins walk south of the station, nice traditional small ground. Also if you don't want to go all the way to Brugge you could get off at Aalter whcih has a good stand. Like Steenbrugge it is also a proper football ground although a bit more modern.

I would guess that most people in Bruges actually speak French, albeit as a second language.
I think you will find Bruges is English for the city as well as French, as this is an English language website, the previous poster was correct.
Sorry for being pedantic!


Exactly, or perhaps Chris now expects us refer to Belgie, Belgique or Belgien and not Belgium.

Do I need to write any future reports from said country in Nederlands, Francais or Deutsch ?



Would that be Nederlands Nederlands or Belgisch Nederlands?


jrev61
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Just to be pedantic, It's actually known as 'Brugge' to the locals, as the signs on the railway station platforms will confirm. ('Bruges' is the French spelling but no-one in the town speaks French.) The title of the recent movie 'In Bruges' is simply another instance of this confusion.

Quite a few grounds in the area. There's Steenbrugge which is about 30 mins walk south of the station, nice traditional small ground. Also if you don't want to go all the way to Brugge you could get off at Aalter whcih has a good stand. Like Steenbrugge it is also a proper football ground although a bit more modern.

I would guess that most people in Bruges actually speak French, albeit as a second language.
I think you will find Bruges is English for the city as well as French, as this is an English language website, the previous poster was correct.
Sorry for being pedantic!


Exactly, or perhaps Chris now expects us refer to Belgie, Belgique or Belgien and not Belgium.

Do I need to write any future reports from said country in Nederlands, Francais or Deutsch ?



Would that be Nederlands Nederlands or Belgisch Nederlands?

Or Vlaamse?


mip
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Apr 1, 2011, 10:15 PM

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Just to be pedantic, It's actually known as 'Brugge' to the locals, as the signs on the railway station platforms will confirm. ('Bruges' is the French spelling but no-one in the town speaks French.) The title of the recent movie 'In Bruges' is simply another instance of this confusion.

Quite a few grounds in the area. There's Steenbrugge which is about 30 mins walk south of the station, nice traditional small ground. Also if you don't want to go all the way to Brugge you could get off at Aalter whcih has a good stand. Like Steenbrugge it is also a proper football ground although a bit more modern.

I would guess that most people in Bruges actually speak French, albeit as a second language.
I think you will find Bruges is English for the city as well as French, as this is an English language website, the previous poster was correct.
Sorry for being pedantic!


Exactly, or perhaps Chris now expects us refer to Belgie, Belgique or Belgien and not Belgium.

Do I need to write any future reports from said country in Nederlands, Francais or Deutsch ?



Would that be Nederlands Nederlands or Belgisch Nederlands?

Or Vlaamse?


No, Vlaamse is Belgisch Nederlands.

Belgian and Dutch Dutch are in effect the same language but the use of some words differ. Also the pronunciation can be quite different.

Anyway they all speak English very well.


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buncranaboy
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Belgian and Dutch Dutch are in effect the same language but the use of some words differ. Also the pronunciation can be quite different.

Anyway they all speak English very well.



Belgians don't pronounce words - they spit them. And that's the origin of the word "phlegm".

Honestly.


mip
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Apr 1, 2011, 10:22 PM

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Belgian and Dutch Dutch are in effect the same language but the use of some words differ. Also the pronunciation can be quite different.

Anyway they all speak English very well.



Belgians don't pronounce words - they spit them. And that's the origin of the word "phlegm".

Honestly.



Being Danish I shouldn't judge whether other nationalities pronounce or spit words. Someone on this forum once wrote that Danes sounds as if they are drunk when they speak.

Could be we just are drunk all the time, who knows Wink.


mip
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Apr 1, 2011, 10:27 PM

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http://wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip/2004/11/16/

Frown


jrev61
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Apr 1, 2011, 10:50 PM

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Belgian and Dutch Dutch are in effect the same language but the use of some words differ. Also the pronunciation can be quite different.

Anyway they all speak English very well.



Belgians don't pronounce words - they spit them. And that's the origin of the word "phlegm".

Honestly.

So why the strange spelling, why not just spell it 'flem'? and how do you explain the word 'phlegmatic'?
Oops I forgot what day it is.Smile


buncranaboy
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Belgian and Dutch Dutch are in effect the same language but the use of some words differ. Also the pronunciation can be quite different.

Anyway they all speak English very well.



Belgians don't pronounce words - they spit them. And that's the origin of the word "phlegm".

Honestly.

So why the strange spelling, why not just spell it 'flem'? and how do you explain the word 'phlegmatic'?
Oops I forgot what day it is.Smile



We spelled it "phlegm" deliberately like that in order to get an even bigger laugh/spray when a Belgian had a go at trying to pronounce it. And I'm not in the mood to answer your second point. Cool


Chris1963
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Just to be pedantic, It's actually known as 'Brugge' to the locals, as the signs on the railway station platforms will confirm. ('Bruges' is the French spelling but no-one in the town speaks French.) The title of the recent movie 'In Bruges' is simply another instance of this confusion.

Quite a few grounds in the area. There's Steenbrugge which is about 30 mins walk south of the station, nice traditional small ground. Also if you don't want to go all the way to Brugge you could get off at Aalter whcih has a good stand. Like Steenbrugge it is also a proper football ground although a bit more modern.

I would guess that most people in Bruges actually speak French, albeit as a second language.
I think you will find Bruges is English for the city as well as French, as this is an English language website, the previous poster was correct.
Sorry for being pedantic!



Given the choice, I think most people in Brugge prefer to speak English rather than French, given the historical animosity between French and Dutch speakers in Belgium. Not a single street sign in the city is in French.


(This post was edited by Chris1963 on Apr 4, 2011, 6:15 PM)


Chris1963
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Just to be pedantic, It's actually known as 'Brugge' to the locals, as the signs on the railway station platforms will confirm. ('Bruges' is the to Brugge you could get off at Aalter whcih has a good stand. Like Steenbrugge it is also a proper football ground although a bit more modern.

I would guess that most people in Bruges actually speak French, albeit as a second language.


Exactly, or perhaps Chris now expects us refer to Belgie, Belgique or Belgien and not Belgium.

Do I need to write any future reports from said country in Nederlands, Francais or Deutsch ?



Don't be silly Mick, I never said anything of the sort. Like everyone elee, I agree that the country should always be referred to as Belgium.

By the way, there is a cafe/bakery shop in Ware (I noticed it while passing through the Herts town on Saturday while en route to Cambridge by bus) called 'Belgique", the owner presumably being under the mistaken belief that French is the only language spoken in Belgium!


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Mishi
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Thanks for the info Chris.

With regard to the bakery in Ware...maybe the owners are Walloons?



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Last time I went to Bruges on a train out of Brussels I found the conductor before I got on and, in my schoolboy French, asked if it was the train for Bruges. He gave me a dirty look and replied in a combination of English and Flemish, "Yes, Brugge". So although some people might not like it, my own isolated experience suggests that Chris does actually have a point.

Although I agree about the spelling issue. There is a tendency in academic circles to spell Kiev as Kyiv as it's closer to the Ukrainian pronunciation. But that overlooks the fact that the English language can't even pronounce the name of it's own native towns and cities the way they are spelt (among many other thousands of words), so why start changing foreign ones!


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Absolutely! I recently went to a lecture at the British Museum on an archeolgical dig at somewhere called "Hazebury" and was surprised to see it on the map printed as Happisburgh!

And having just come back from Brugge Wink (Club v Kortrijk) - I can confirm that you'll get a lot further speaking English than you will speaking French!

Incidentally, I was told that a new stadium for the Brugge teams has been agreed. The current one isn't all that old is it?


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Incidentally, I was told that a new stadium for the Brugge teams has been agreed. The current one isn't all that old is it?


Olympia (Jan Breydel) Stadium up and running in 75/76. I went to the FC Brugge v Antwerp game on 04/01/76.
Remember rushing to FC & Cercles old ground the season before the move , on the 31/03/74 went to the old Cercle Brugge v RWDM game at Edgar De Smedt stadium (no more than 300 yards from station) Then the following Sunday 07/04/74 to the Clock (Klokke) stadium for FC Brugge v Antwerp also reasonably close to station . Football was indeed played at the site of the Clock for many years . Also there used to be monuments up at both sites stating this is where the ground was !



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Seems a long term plan ????


Football: a new project for a new decade
Bruges has two teams in the Belgian first division: Club Brugge KV and Cercle Brugge KSV. Both teams were founded at the end of the 19th century. Each derby is eagerly anticipated by the fans of both Club and Cercle and is played in a great atmosphere.
Bruges was one of the host cities for Euro 2000. In total, 4 games were played in Bruges' Jan Breydel stadium. This stadium, however, does not meet the new stadium requirements for the World Cup in 2018. Plans for the construction of a new stadium have been decided.The City of Bruges will take the initiative to put the plans into effect, in close collaboration with all parties concerned. The site for the new stadium is situated on the south side of the city and is easily accessible by all means of transport. The site is perfectly suited for the construction of a stadium that meets all the FIFA requirements. Suited and ready for the challenge that is World Cup 2018/2022!



Football future in Stadium Chartreuse Top
Both Bruges' First Division football teams currently play their home games in a stadium that does not yet meet the new stadium requirements for the World Cup in 2018. That is why plans for the construction of a fantastic new 45,000 seat stadium have been announced. On October 30 2009, the Flemish Government submitted a detailed proposal for the exact location of the new stadium and for the conditions for its construction. The new stadium will be built in the south outskirts of Bruges, in a domain called ‘Chartreuse’.
The site is located on the junction of the E40 and the E403 highways. All facilities for making the site accessible for public transport (train, express tram and bus) are present. On 27 November, the city of Bruges submitted its official candidacy to have the ‘Chartreuse’ site chosen as one of the potential host stadiums for the World Cup 2018/2022. Previously, on 25 November, both Bruges-based teams already agreed that this new stadium should be multifunctional. They also confirmed their willingness to share the stadium for their home games.
The City of Bruges’ proposal comprises a stadium for 45,000 spectators, 7,000 car parking spaces, 2,000 bicycle parking spaces and at least 230 coach parking spaces, extendible to 300. A train or express tram station will be built adjacent to the stadium, on the railway line Bruges-Kortrijk.
The stadium has to meet all the FIFA and UEFA requirements for the World Cup and the Champions League. The candidacy is accompanied by a financial feasibility report and a balanced business plan.
Ready before 2018
On December 11 2009, the Flemish Government officially approved the City of Bruges’ candidacy. This means that it accepted Bruges’ proposal for the ‘Chartreuse’ site as a candidate host stadium for the World Cup 2018/2022 games. The Flemish Government will be submitting the candidacies of the Flemish host cities for the official games.
As one of the official candidate host cities endorsed by the Flemish Government, Bruges commits itself to having the stadium ready for the World Cup 2018/2022.




Those who get too big for their britches will be exposed in the end.


Mishi
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With regard to non-league clubs in Bruges/Brugge, I've had an email from a Belgian hopper & although he hasn't been to them he tells me of Eendracht Brugge (level 7) & Daring Brugge (level 8). both presumably very basic, but I'll search them out anyway.



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This will help, put brugge in nom of club then chercher and you should have all details of clubs in and around Brugge.

http://www.footbel.com/...bvb_toepassing_.html



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Mishi
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Apr 8, 2011, 1:13 AM

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Doh! I should have thought of that.

And next time remind me earleir, that's now at least an hour later I'm going to bed, checking if they have websites! ;-)



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